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ME 3: No Alliance, No Cerberus, where do we go from here?


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Going back to it I think that with all the allies Shepard has/should have made that needing Cerberus or the Alliance or the Council shouldn't be too much of an issue. Miranda is right, he's an icon - the badass of the galaxy. Everybody knows him. He should be fine going solo, maybe take a page out of TIM's book and start up a front company that will help with the cash flow. It's not like Shepard will be splurging four billion credits on bringing somebody back to life or anything.

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Lycid wrote...

Spectre is the most likely choice for a Paragon Shepard.


Well Technically, Shepard's Spectre reinstatement is just a kindness the Council has given him because he saved the Citadel. It's basically just a paper title.(Although I did agree to get my Spectre status back)

See I have a theory that the Shadow Broker is "Dread Pirate Roberts". (If you've seen Princess Bride you get what I mean) in that the Shadow Broker is the person who runs the Intel network and then they pass the title on to the Next Person. Which means, quite possibly, that Liara will be the Shadow Broker in ME3 and you'll be working for her.

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Gill Kaiser wrote...

I think that the game will actually involve Shepard working for all of them, or at least working to get them all fighting on the same side. I strongly suspect that the general structure of ME3 will be like DA:O - it'll be about gathering allies to prepare for an invasion.
The setup is already there. Quarians and Geth need to work out their problems. Rachni (if they live) could help. Wrex needs to unite the Krogan. Cerberus could be useful, as could the Alliance, the Council (and the Spectres). Maybe even the forces of the Terminus systems, like the Batarian Hegemony. Mark my words, ME3 will involve Shepard playing diplomat (while kicking ass obviously).
I hope the Normandy SR-2 returns, and the Illusive Man has let Shepard keep it. I think EDI is the best new character in ME2.


This is exactly what I was thinking.  i bet the missions in ME3 involve recreuiting various factions and resolving their conflicts to get them on your side against the reapers.  The missions could involve:
1. Quarians/Geth
2. Council Races/Terminus Systems
3. The Alliance/Batarians
4. Cereberus/The Shadow Broker
5. The Krogans (Unite the clans!)

I think Shepard should be autonomous, using all his resources and contacts from the first 2 games.  Also, I would love to see some of the old characters (esp. the ME2 ones) return as squadmates, but I would think they'd have implementation issues dealing with all those variables.   In that case, the best mechanic I can think of is that Shepard sent his surviving crew out on various tasks throughout the galaxy trying to recruit these people and or deal with other missions (that become the main story missions in game).  For example, he could have sent Legion and Tali to deal with the Quarian/Geth Situation; Garrus, Grunt, and Jack into the Terminus systems; Jacob, Mordin and Samara to the Citadel; and Miranda, Thane and Zaeed to deal with th Shadow Broker, etc.

That way if they're alive they could be implemented for thee portions of the game, and if not, you just wouldn't get their aid on those missions.  Throw in a few extra dialogue/interludes and HOPEFULLY a finale/end game scenario witht the LIs and you've got all the bases covered.

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Squiggles 1171

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ARIA AND THE TERMINUS FLEET!



Gosh.



:D

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Squiggles 1171

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Double post. My bad.

Goodnight =]

Modifié par Squiggles 1171, 01 février 2010 - 03:29 .


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I would also like to see if Samara can rally up the rest of the few remaining Justicars for the third game as well.

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I made a fatal mistake in my playthrough, I sent Legion through the ducts druring the last mission. And well I think whoever you send doesn't make it no matter who you send. I just sent the guy I thought would do the best job, I needed a Tech, and Legion was that tech. :(

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malkuth74 wrote...

I made a fatal mistake in my playthrough, I sent Legion through the ducts druring the last mission. And well I think whoever you send doesn't make it no matter who you send. I just sent the guy I thought would do the best job, I needed a Tech, and Legion was that tech. :(


I sent Legion through the pipes too and he died, but I don't think that is always the case. Legion/Tali are the best choice for that job, but I think their survival depends on who is the first team leader (it should be Miranda or Garrus).

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I put Jacob in Charge 'cause Jack wouldn't play nice with the "Cheerleader" and I took Miranda with me.

*Member you send through the pipes must be loyal, a Tech, AND you have to do your part as well to keep them Alive.

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Bann Duncan wrote...

malkuth74 wrote...

I made a fatal mistake in my playthrough, I sent Legion through the ducts druring the last mission. And well I think whoever you send doesn't make it no matter who you send. I just sent the guy I thought would do the best job, I needed a Tech, and Legion was that tech. :(


I sent Legion through the pipes too and he died, but I don't think that is always the case. Legion/Tali are the best choice for that job, but I think their survival depends on who is the first team leader (it should be Miranda or Garrus).


My Legion survived in the pipes and I had Miranda as squad leader. Legion performed above and beyond what was expected of him. 

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I'm going to form the Shepard Alliance. Going to overthrow the Council, use my contacts in all the different races and organizations to form a new galactic government.

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I hope that Shepherd gets to keep the new Normandy and return to Spectre/Alliance. With the intel he can now provide on the Reapers and the coming war. The Council better listen to him for once. The gathering of an army has already started: Geth, Rachni, Migrant Fleet, Krogan, Citadel/Alliance.



I think even if you destroy the Collector base that the Illusive Man will change his mind. They all need Shepherd if they want to survive the coming war.



The Geth will probably create a virus with the quarians to slow/destroy the reapers, and the rachni will probably have massive numbers by the time of ME3.



We still don't know that much about the Reapers, and I'm guessing Harbinger may be some sort of Commander. Shepherd needs to find out more of evidence about the Reapers.

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more than the reapers i wanna fight/kill TIM. Should be a hell of a battle

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I hope that in ME3 we join yet a new faction - The Geth.



The Geth is the only faction other than Cerberus who absolutely know that the Reapers are coming, They know this though Legion, I wouldn't be surprised if ME3 shows us what the "pure" Geth have been spending their time doing all these years, Preparing for the Reapers - probably even blow up stars with dark matter - this would also explain why they tried to stop Tali on Haestrum, Remember it was the Heretics who joined Saren and went around playing galactic bogeymen.



So when the time is right who are they gonna call?.. The Shep thats who.

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TyDurden13 wrote...

This is exactly what I was thinking.  i bet the missions in ME3 involve recreuiting various factions and resolving their conflicts to get them on your side against the reapers.  The missions could involve:
1. Quarians/Geth
2. Council Races/Terminus Systems
3. The Alliance/Batarians
4. Cereberus/The Shadow Broker
5. The Krogans (Unite the clans!)


I agree I think it'll be like Oblivion/DA:O in that the mission is to unite the galaxy. I'll also add to that list
6: Aria and Omega (criminals and mercs unite!)
7: Rachni (depending on your choices)

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Poomba wrote...

TyDurden13 wrote...

This is exactly what I was thinking.  i bet the missions in ME3 involve recreuiting various factions and resolving their conflicts to get them on your side against the reapers.  The missions could involve:
1. Quarians/Geth
2. Council Races/Terminus Systems
3. The Alliance/Batarians
4. Cereberus/The Shadow Broker
5. The Krogans (Unite the clans!)


I agree I think it'll be like Oblivion/DA:O in that the mission is to unite the galaxy. I'll also add to that list
6: Aria and Omega (criminals and mercs unite!)
7: Rachni (depending on your choices)

This is pretty much what I'm thinking. Everybody gets together for one big shebang with the Reapers, then goes back to killing each other because we just can't have peace in the galaxy!

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I think the ending of ME2 sort of implies that you and the Normandy II are going to go it alone. The Council doesn't want to believe there is a Reaper threat. The Alliance has their hands tied. Cerberus has their own agenda and the Collector threat was your only tie to working with them.

At this point, you have to find irrefuteable PROOF that the Reapers are coming and you're going to have to do it alone.

Fortunately the whole sequence of events with EDI are a good catalyst to get the show on the road.

I doubt they're going to have you zipping around the galaxy trying to unify it.  Rather they might have you visit the Geth and the Rachni to obtain information about the Reapers that the Council races don't know about.  The Council races themselves will unify based on events, not you convincing them to do so.  Not directly anyway.

There's too much for them to cover in ME3 to alot that much time and energy into trying to unify the galaxy.

Besides, if you're spending your time politicing with th Council, you're not out there blasting stuff to pieces.  This isn't like NWN2 or DA where there are some big divisions and a civil war going on.  The Council races are already at peace.  Tossing out a lot of red herrings at this point would completely derail the storyline.

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ShadowWolf_Kell wrote...

I think the ending of ME2 sort of implies that you and the Normandy II are going to go it alone. The Council doesn't want to believe there is a Reaper threat. The Alliance has their hands tied. Cerberus has their own agenda and the Collector threat was your only tie to working with them.

At this point, you have to find irrefuteable PROOF that the Reapers are coming and you're going to have to do it alone.

Fortunately the whole sequence of events with EDI are a good catalyst to get the show on the road.


Yeah which I think will be why you have to go to all these places and 'convince' them to join and help. Much like DA:O where they didn't want to believe the Darkspawn was a real Blight. Hell, if anything I'm sure the Reapers will blow up a few worlds to help them realize it because I don't think Shephard could beat them all alone. 

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Do not forget about the Rachni if you saved them. Getting the allegiance of the Migrant Fleet. Saving Wrex in ME1 so he's the leader of the Krogan in ME2 and ME3. Helped the Geth. Also even though I went full Paragon in ME2 I couldn't let the resources of the Collector base be destroyed either, so theirs that too.

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aeetos21 wrote...

So striking it out alone? Like a privateer or corsair or vigilante or, hell, a space batman?


This.

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Paragon shep will have plenty of endorsements from all the citadel shops, but the Normandy will have many product logos and store names slapped across it.

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Splinter Reaper group?

I mean the loop has gone on for 40+ million years i guess, there has to be atleast a group of reapers that do not agree with the rest.

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Poomba wrote...

TyDurden13 wrote...

This is exactly what I was thinking.  i bet the missions in ME3 involve recreuiting various factions and resolving their conflicts to get them on your side against the reapers.  The missions could involve:
1. Quarians/Geth
2. Council Races/Terminus Systems
3. The Alliance/Batarians
4. Cereberus/The Shadow Broker
5. The Krogans (Unite the clans!)


I agree I think it'll be like Oblivion/DA:O in that the mission is to unite the galaxy. I'll also add to that list
6: Aria and Omega (criminals and mercs unite!)
7: Rachni (depending on your choices)


I agree to a certain extent but maybe with the Quarians/Geth we will be able to convince them to make peace.

Also not sure about choosing Alliance or Batarians, as much as the Alliance has left Shep out to dry part from a few people, I can't see shep wanting to side with people whom tend to hate humans.

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I think it's obvious who will be involved in ME3 - the Shadow Broker. They've been building up to it for two games now, and I think he or she will play a MAJOR role in the third game.


That makes the most sense.  The last game is going to be about intelligence and finding weaknesses of the Reapers although I would laugh if the Shadow Broker was actually a Reaper who was using indoctrination.

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I'm betting the tradition of beginning the game with two "lead" allies continues.

Since Miranda and Jacob are mortal, and there was only one survivor from Virmire, we will again see a new pair. I wonder if they will be humans again, or aliens. And no, it won't be Garrus and Tali. They are mortal as of ME2, remember?

Most likely a new pair. Wouldn't it be fun if it were two characters already introduced as NPCs? There are some pretty big names among the ME2 cast, playing not so big roles...