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Are you a Gamer on the Defensive?


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Drawn75

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I learned Japanese from playing NES games... English from playing PC games...



Who said video games can't be educational ? Playing through momotaro densetsu will teach you JP faster than rosetta stone!




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Sometimes I have to defend it. But generally my family doesn't mind.

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I've been a gamer most of my life, and now am engaged to a man who not only is a gamer as well but works in the game industry, so I haven't had to explain my gaming to anyone for a long time. However, I still have a bunch of friends whose only gaming experience is Guitar Hero or the likes, so sometimes I do have to explain my love of RPGs to some of them :)

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Santiri_azz wrote...

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well gaming >>>>> watching TV<br />
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that's for sure


Indeed, and thats what i tell everyone who claims gaming is bad.
Don't get me wrong, it _is_ bad, but TV is worse.

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Dennis Carpenter

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I have been gaming (D&D) tabletop since 1976 back in the days when we were all going to commit suicide so I have run the gamut of defensive conversation most thoroughly with those folks lacking in any credible amount of gray matter. All my children (3) are dependable adults and all play either D&D or WOW or some sort of video game. My wife doesn't get it but she does like the fact I am not at some bar and were still good after 32 years. So dont let it bother you to much but if its your parents invite them to join in or watch and give them some respect as they really do have your best interest at heart. Sometimes they just need to be educated.

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I'm wondering if this is an age thing. I'm 26, my finacee games, all my friends game, really everyone I know that is around my age does. Not every one is an rpg player, but I have never felt the need to defend it.

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I don't feel like I have to defend it, but I do feel uncomfortable talking about it in social gatherings where I met new people, I tend to not mention I game until I know them better.



And most of the time people are shocked and amazed that this is what I do in my spare time, I guess I'm not what they pictured a 'gamer' to be. :)



My husband has always been a gamer and his ex did not understand to the point of denying him play time... This is a very unhealthy thing to do! It's like if you love a tv show and your significant other forbids you to watch it just because they don't like it and so on. It just makes people want to do it behind your back and feel stressed and guilty when it's 3 am and you discover instead of sleeping they are on the console or PC.... Ridiculous.



There's also the belief still that games are for children, of course with the types of games with adult and mature themes we know this is silly, but for a lot of people who haven't been paying attention they don't know that. So they expect you to eventually 'grow up' and leave it behind.


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well, to tell the truth, there is some prejudice where I live with female players (same for girls who watch animes at my age (17)) usually I don't watch animes, and don't play a lot of games, but, while I don't hide my game interest from anyone, it's not a subject I bring when not asked.
Most of my friends don't play games, so there's little reason to talk about it, in the end.

Modifié par Linarc, 15 octobre 2009 - 07:20 .


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Jacob Thorwaldson

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I started playing games with my father.We played old Age of Empires II.
So, i needn't defend my hobby.
And I learning english even now. :D
In this forum:D

Modifié par Jacob Thorwaldson, 15 octobre 2009 - 07:16 .


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s4nder

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Don't get me wrong, it _is_ bad

How?

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Well I can see the argument it's a waste of time. But just personaly when I get home from work I like to either cuddle on the couch with my man, or chill out and game a bit. I certainly wouldn't be out curing cancer in my freetime anyways. About all that would realisticaly change is I might read a bit more.

Although...I should probobly be spending my time at work working, and not posting on a video game forum :)

Modifié par relhart, 15 octobre 2009 - 07:23 .


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Most of the people I know don't get why I spend so much of my time playing games. I just ignore them whenever they comment on it.

I really should try to get more friends with a interest in gaming.Image IPB

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NewYears1978 wrote...

Do you constantly have to defend yourself from friends and/or family about your gaming hobby?

Do you have friends/family who are not gamers that do not understand?

...I constantly have to defend gaming as a valid hobby.  I ask them how is it differnt than when they spend hours reading books, or playing Golf, or watching TV?


First off, golf is a physical activity. Even a mild game of golf is arguably better than playing a 80+ hour game.

Secondly, the reason that people say games aren't as good as movies, books, or TV is because they're not. Yes, there's crap in all media, but the best movies, books, and TV programs are still better than the best games. Games have great potential, but that potential hasn't been fully developed yet.

The developers have compared Dragon Age to A Song of Ice and Fire. It's not my favorite fantasy series, but it is dark, grim, and fairly gritty. Will Dragon Age be as dark? Are we going to get stark depictions of rape and torture? Will we see incest and how barbarians take their child brides and deal with their annoying brothers?

One of the best features of A Song of Ice and Fire were the multiple perspectives. We are able to find virtue and heroism in belligerent and hateful dwarf and an incestuous child murdered who betrayed his king because we get inside their heads and understand who they are. We can’t do that in a game with a single, player created protagonist. The best we can hope for is for someone to give us a few sentences on their viewpoint – that’s fairly shallow in comparison.

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ill be 28 years old next month , playing games since i was about 9, started with nintendo nes , i never hide that even if people tells me that its waste of time etc , i allways was proud of this that i have still interest till this day , for me its the one of best way to relax, forget the problems in real life :)

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Being surrounded by (real life) gamers of many types and genres, I often do find myself on the defensive -- that is, barraged by suggestions of games I *should* be playing. Don't get me started on multiplayer games -- ooh, that only adds another level of complexity, especially when the games in question are on multiple platforms.



I don't mind it all that much.

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It's not something that I advertise, I'll admit.

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My friends all play video games to some degree and my parents stopped complaining around the long ago. My coworkers and colleagues make me the most defensive about gaming. I work in a hidebound, tradition-obsessed industry filled with Type A personalities, many of whom are older than fifty. The younger folks tend to play casual games, though a few more involved gamers are around as well. Our advancement, though depends heavily on the senior folks' approval both of our work and personal lives; they certainly tolerate office guitar hero or madden parties, but don't umderstand gamers who truly get into games. We young'uns have to tread carefully if we wantbto get anywhere career-wise.

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Im only 19 so I can't really comment on this but I game alot and yea I normally don't tell people I know unless I have known them for awhile, my ex who was/is 21 played PC games ALOT! And even tho he would be late to work due to him saying up till like 4 am and **** I wouldn't say "No, Mike you can't play that anymore blah blah blah"!! kinda stuff, sure I thought he was very...stupid for another word, but than after 3 years well now I can really call him stupid!
But yea idk Now I can game like I want to cuz HE Would try to stop me from gaming !O.O I have no idea why but he would always yell at me for gaming even tho at the time I could hardly game for 2 hours a day cuz of school, than I had driving school classes 3 times a week for 2 hours than I had alot this other stuff yet he yelled at me...-_-]
Srry for all that ranting:(
Oh srry almost forgot that ONLY 1 of my friends really plays games of my real life friends-_- its kinda depressing really cuz im such a nerd about video games (been playing since i was 8) and they just look at me like im crazy:( they dont try to understand..

Modifié par PandaThief, 15 octobre 2009 - 08:17 .


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I'm 23 and I must say I do feel alien. I know people that play game at university but they usually don't care what I do. I have no real friends either.

My brother still play counter-strike and spit on any single-player game. My dad used to play games 5 years ago. Now he's all about sailing and don't care anymore. In fact, he's pretty aggressive with it now because my brother play too much and ruined his studies because of it. So now, I'm forbidden to talk about the "little cartoons" when I go visit them.

My girlfriend do not play game. I was successful at making her play The Sims 3, a bit. She liked it but she work a lot and didn't play in weeks now. I play whenever I'm alone home and will usually play late during weekend when my girlfriend wake early to go work.

Yeah.. it's kind of depressing. That's why I like hanging out with all of you and that I'm happy to talk with people that have the same interests as me.

So no, I'm not on the defensive anymore. People have made their own mind anyway and if they think I'm loosing my time well.. too bad.

Modifié par BoomWav, 15 octobre 2009 - 08:00 .


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SmokieMcdoogle

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Im not that defensive about it i enjoy playing video games most of my friends play them and my parents never really did complain about it. And most people that have said anything about it i just ignore.

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More great points!

I like what Maria said...about Golf, Books, Movies, all being better than gaming.  I don't necessarily agree though.  I mean I agree a physical activity is much better than just sitting around.  In my case though, I play sports quite a bit as well, so I get exercise.  

For me, gaming IS my form of books.  I Love reading, but it makes me very sleepy, and I can hardly finish anything I start.  If it is not something I REALLY want to read, then I can't make it through.  I play games in place of books because I like stories, but stories that I can also visualize and be a part of with some sort of control.

Movies are great too yes, I watch quite a bit of movies.  I guess for me it might be a little different then some.  I only play games on a certain type schedule, since my wife is not a gamer, we have a more or less "planned" game time with time set aside for family, dates, gaming, etc....  so it all sorta balances out.

When I was in high school though, it was games, non stop all the time..and that is not healthy.   It's one thing to game as a hobby or for entertainment..but if you do nothing else.....

I will say that I got much more flack for Online games, over regular games.   Because of the interaction with other people, there becomes (or can become) a trust issue and other issues that are not (or at least have the possibility of not) being healthy to relationships and such.   I guess this mostly applies in a marriage..

Anyways, I ranted enough for this post.

Modifié par NewYears1978, 15 octobre 2009 - 08:12 .


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Back when I was in my early teens I got addicted to some MMO's, and was banned from the internet by my parents. Several years before that, I remember being banned from video games for a while because my brothers and I were sneaking into the storage room to play C64 at odd hours.Image IPB



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I am more intelligent than anyone that would attack video games and I defend video games to show them that they are ignorant fools bwahahaha

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I'm 27 and have been a gamer since I was like 7. Started with Atari. Well I do get a hail of criticisms for gaming but I have gotten used to it. My usual answer is Its something I'm interested in, and I tend to show them a couple if trailers...it usually works. If that doesn't work you could always quote the stock prices for Microsoft and EA

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It's a badge of honor for me. :) Some of my friends and family don't really "get it", but gaming (pen and paper, board games and now computer games) has been my life really. Not ashamed or anything about that, nor do I feel there's anything "bad" or "wrong" about being a hardcore game player and being interested in everything involved in gaming (sci-fi/fantasy books, TV, movies and the like).



That said, I probably am "addicted" to games. Like, I'm getting a physical jonesing for DA:O, and I've had my questionable moments when an online game lost connection or something, but that's probably the same for anyone's interests. heh



Be a proud gamer! :) Some day the robots will come for us and us gamers will at least be prepared for it.