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[Eledhan]

varrik666 wrote...

I don't think Mass Effect would suit an MMO. maybe a console online type of game but not the traditional MMO with a hotkey bar and such. Just the usual Mass Effect but online would be good

Yes, that's what I said...

An MMO-RPG 1st/3rd person shooter on consoles.

this game would not be focused on quite so much variety as WoW or TOR will probably have...it'll be focused on gameplay and fun...

[Timex1]

Eledhan wrote...

Timex1 wrote...

Niorcs wrote...

It would end up with every single player as a Spectre. I guarantee it- look at what happened with the Star Wars MMO; everyone became a Jedi :/

SWG was a great Star Wars MMO at the start, til they changed everything (I don't buy sony products because of this, and ruining it all) . When there were only a hand full of jedi. I miss that game...

Back on topic.  I like your ideas on this topic of dissuction. I related to a lot of what you said and I have been wanting this from a MMO for a long time now. That's why I am excited to see what TOR has to bring to the table. A MMO in the universe of Mass Effect would be amazing. I love it almost, if not more than Star Wars now.

I enjoyed reading your post a lot. It was refreshing from most of these topics on here.

Why, thank you!

Basically, I don't think TOR will succeed long term...it's not going to have enough innovation to compete with WoW as a WoW clone set in space...even though it does have the Star Wars IP, I just don't think the same basic combat of WoW will work in a space setting.

I agree just like most MMOs out there they all seem to fall into becoming WoW clones.

I would love to see the Mass Effect universe the way you are saying it. It would be the ultimate experiance and I could happly die saying I was happy. I say this because I can truthfully tell you I have played every PTP MMO out there. And I always seem to keep hopping from one to the other just hoping I will someday find what you are talking about...and maybe one day before I die I hope I do find it.

[AudioJane]

Eledhan wrote...

varrik666 wrote...

I don't think Mass Effect would suit an MMO. maybe a console online type of game but not the traditional MMO with a hotkey bar and such. Just the usual Mass Effect but online would be good

Yes, that's what I said...

An MMO-RPG 1st/3rd person shooter on consoles.

this game would not be focused on quite so much variety as WoW or TOR will probably have...it'll be focused on gameplay and fun...

Then thats not an MMO thats just adding multiplayer to ME.

[Timex1]

AudioJane wrote...

Planet side is the only Shooter MMO I can think of. They did quite a decent job on some things. And completely failed on others.

Fallen Earth is one. It is alright but I didn't get to far into it, school is kind of taking up most of my time now a days. :/

[Eledhan]

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

If you don't think TOR will succeed, then an ME MMO has no chance in hell of ever being made by Bioware. If they can't make a successful game with one of the worlds most popular and beloved IP's, then what do you think they could possibly do with ME?

It's not that I think that TOR won't succeed as a game...let's see how do I put this?

I guess I feel like we're gonna see a bunch of force users and little else...Then again, Bioware has not let me down with the "bland" soldier class in ME2, so who knows?  I just don't think that the community of TOR will be strong enough to really catch on and become the supremely polished game it would have to be to compete with WoW. 

I don't particularly like WoW, but it does what it aims to do, and it does it better than any other game on the market.  That's really difficult to top.

[LuPoM]

NO THANKS!



That's my opinion about a theoretical Mass Effect MMO

[AudioJane]

Eledhan wrote...

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

If you don't think TOR will succeed, then an ME MMO has no chance in hell of ever being made by Bioware. If they can't make a successful game with one of the worlds most popular and beloved IP's, then what do you think they could possibly do with ME?

It's not that I think that TOR won't succeed as a game...let's see how do I put this?

I guess I feel like we're gonna see a bunch of force users and little else...Then again, Bioware has not let me down with the "bland" soldier class in ME2, so who knows?  I just don't think that the community of TOR will be strong enough to really catch on and become the supremely polished game it would have to be to compete with WoW. 

I don't particularly like WoW, but it does what it aims to do, and it does it better than any other game on the market.  That's really difficult to top.

And if bioware falls into that trap they are done. You don't have to compete with WOW. For god's sake make something different think outside the box Bioware.

[Eledhan]

Timex1 wrote...


I agree just like most MMOs out there they all seem to fall into becoming WoW clones.

I would love to see the Mass Effect universe the way you are saying it. It would be the ultimate experiance and I could happly die saying I was happy. I say this because I can truthfully tell you I have played every PTP MMO out there. And I always seem to keep hopping from one to the other just hoping I will someday find what you are talking about...and maybe one day before I die I hope I do find it.

man, you took the words right out of my mouth...

If it were possible to put WoW's customization and networking genius in a Mass Effect universe, give it Halo or Gears quality combat mechanics, and give us a fantastic story to follow...I'd be happy!

[Killian Kalthorne]

Screw that crap. MMOs cannot be story driven games. It is not in their nature.

[Timex1]

AudioJane wrote...

And if bioware falls into that trap they are done. You don't have to compete with WOW. For god's sake make something different think outside the box Bioware.

I agree. I wish a MMO would come out and they would stick to something different. That they would not care about trying to compete with anyone. That they would just give the players the ultimate experiance and make that their main goal.

[Timex1]

Eledhan wrote...

Timex1 wrote...


I agree just like most MMOs out there they all seem to fall into becoming WoW clones.

I would love to see the Mass Effect universe the way you are saying it. It would be the ultimate experiance and I could happly die saying I was happy. I say this because I can truthfully tell you I have played every PTP MMO out there. And I always seem to keep hopping from one to the other just hoping I will someday find what you are talking about...and maybe one day before I die I hope I do find it.

man, you took the words right out of my mouth...

If it were possible to put WoW's customization and networking genius in a Mass Effect universe, give it Halo or Gears quality combat mechanics, and give us a fantastic story to follow...I'd be happy!

That there sir would be the best game ever. Period.

[Eledhan]

AudioJane wrote...


And if bioware falls into that trap they are done. You don't have to compete with WOW. For god's sake make something different think outside the box Bioware.

Which is the whole point of my original post...

Everything WoW does is perfect...with about 2 exceptions...

Story & Combat

Bioware seems to be on the right track to fixing the Story problems with TOR, but the combat will be missing...

Why the heck do I have to simply click buttons to kill stuff?  There's no sense of achievement in killing my 1,000th wolf...they all require the same pushes of a button...There would be some intense satisfaction from blasting the first three with a fire ball because of my perfect aim, and then slicing through the remaining two with my sword due to my very accurate and precise swings...

I don't care if I fight the giant worm monster with 2 friends or 22 friends...the thing is, I was able to shoot it and it mattered whether I made the shot, not whether a resistance check failed or not.

[Eledhan]

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

Screw that crap. MMOs cannot be story driven games. It is not in their nature.

I believe Bioware intends to show the world that this concept is absolutely false.

Story can be more than personal relations with squad mates...

Besides, stories in MMO's are more about how you write your own story with your friends...at least that's how I view it...that's why it's called an MMO...

[AudioJane]

Eledhan wrote...

AudioJane wrote...


And if bioware falls into that trap they are done. You don't have to compete with WOW. For god's sake make something different think outside the box Bioware.

Which is the whole point of my original post...

Everything WoW does is perfect...with about 2 exceptions...

Story & Combat

Bioware seems to be on the right track to fixing the Story problems with TOR, but the combat will be missing...

Why the heck do I have to simply click buttons to kill stuff?  There's no sense of achievement in killing my 1,000th wolf...they all require the same pushes of a button...There would be some intense satisfaction from blasting the first three with a fire ball because of my perfect aim, and then slicing through the remaining two with my sword due to my very accurate and precise swings...

I don't care if I fight the giant worm monster with 2 friends or 22 friends...the thing is, I was able to shoot it and it mattered whether I made the shot, not whether a resistance check failed or not.

Which goes back to my original post , unless Bioware is willing to think outside the box. Which no company has been willing to do with MMO's cause Wow clones are easy to make, slap a popular IP on and watch the cash flow.

Modifié par AudioJane, 01 février 2010 - 07:10 .

[Eledhan]

AudioJane wrote...

Then thats not an MMO thats just adding multiplayer to ME.

Um...isn't that what WoW is?  Kinda like if WoW2 were to come out 3 years from now...you would call it something similar to Dragon Age with Multiplayer...

This is basically all that is missing from ME...a multiplayer component...co-operative and competitive...that's the only major game-play difference between WoW and Dragon Age...

[Giantevilhead]

Eledhan wrote...

llinsane1ll wrote...

Star Wars: The Old Republic - By BioWare

Yes, I am aware of this...I'm talking about further down the road...after ME3, which could put the release date of the ME MMO as far away as 4 or 5 years after TOR is released...

The 360 and the PS3 may not even be able to handle a game with this kind of concept.

But by then, Bioware would make a another KotoR MMORPG. It's not exactly easy to get the Star Wars license. Most of the developers at Bioware probably dreamed of making Star Wars games their entire lives. They're not going to be willing to give up that license.

[Veex]

Eledhan wrote...

I just don't think that the community of TOR will be strong enough to really catch on and become the supremely polished game it would have to be to compete with WoW.

It is highly unlikely any MMO is going to hit 11 million subscribers again, especially if they do not release in Asia. Do you honestly believe that a Mass Effect MMO, with shooter mechanics, would be more financially successful than TOR? There are MMOs out there that try and do the TPS/FPS experience, they are not doing well.

[Eledhan]

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

Eledhan wrote...

Which is the whole point of my original post...

Everything WoW does is perfect...with about 2 exceptions...

Story & Combat

Bioware seems to be on the right track to fixing the Story problems with TOR, but the combat will be missing...

Why the heck do I have to simply click buttons to kill stuff?  There's no sense of achievement in killing my 1,000th wolf...they all require the same pushes of a button...There would be some intense satisfaction from blasting the first three with a fire ball because of my perfect aim, and then slicing through the remaining two with my sword due to my very accurate and precise swings...

I don't care if I fight the giant worm monster with 2 friends or 22 friends...the thing is, I was able to shoot it and it mattered whether I made the shot, not whether a resistance check failed or not.

You must not be a fan of the RPG. 

I love RPG's...and I really don't have issues with resistance...more like defense and accuracy "dice rolls"  kinda lame...

I just want my ROLE to be something besides hitting a different sequence of abilities...I want it to change the way I PLAY the game...

If you don't understand what I mean, let me do an illustration...

I'm playing as an Engineer in ME2...I whip out my drone behind the enemy (barrier, shield, armor)...this forces him to move from behind his cover...I tell Miranda to Warp his Barrier, it goes down, and I then tell Garrus to use Overload, and it knocks the shields down.  I then drop an Incenerate on his butt, and his armor is gone...I then order my squad mates to fire at him till he dies...that's with the Engineer...I never fired a shot.

Now, I play the same enemy with the same squad, but this time, I'm a Soldier.  I start combat off by popping the barrier with anAR with Warp Ammo.  Then, I use Garrus to drop shields with Overload, and Miranda to drop Armor with Warp.  Switch to Sniper with Incendiary, and hit Adrenaline, and pop his head off...I fired alot of shots...

Now, imagine doing this with two human players instead of two AI players...powers are on a little longer cooldown, and you have 3 or 4 of these bad boy targets to kill...and that is how it would be different from WoW.  In WoW, you would only be able to do the Engineer version...just different abilities would be used based on your class...in my conceptual MMO, you could do either, based on which you prefer.

[Eledhan]

Giantevilhead wrote...

Eledhan wrote...

llinsane1ll wrote...

Star Wars: The Old Republic - By BioWare

Yes, I am aware of this...I'm talking about further down the road...after ME3, which could put the release date of the ME MMO as far away as 4 or 5 years after TOR is released...

The 360 and the PS3 may not even be able to handle a game with this kind of concept.

But by then, Bioware would make a another KotoR MMORPG. It's not exactly easy to get the Star Wars license. Most of the developers at Bioware probably dreamed of making Star Wars games their entire lives. They're not going to be willing to give up that license.

Who said they have to give it up?

That's for the PC, the game I'm talking about is for consoles...

And besides, Mass Effect's universe is WAY better than Star Wars, in my oppinion

[AudioJane]

Eledhan wrote...

Giantevilhead wrote...

Eledhan wrote...

llinsane1ll wrote...

Star Wars: The Old Republic - By BioWare

Yes, I am aware of this...I'm talking about further down the road...after ME3, which could put the release date of the ME MMO as far away as 4 or 5 years after TOR is released...

The 360 and the PS3 may not even be able to handle a game with this kind of concept.

But by then, Bioware would make a another KotoR MMORPG. It's not exactly easy to get the Star Wars license. Most of the developers at Bioware probably dreamed of making Star Wars games their entire lives. They're not going to be willing to give up that license.

Who said they have to give it up?

That's for the PC, the game I'm talking about is for consoles...

And besides, Mass Effect's universe is WAY better than Star Wars, in my oppinion

I agree Mass Effect is a breath of fresh air in the SCI Fi universe Star Wars is so overdone and just long in the tooth now.

[Killian Kalthorne]

Eledhan wrote...

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

Screw that crap. MMOs cannot be story driven games. It is not in their nature.

I believe Bioware intends to show the world that this concept is absolutely false.

Story can be more than personal relations with squad mates...

Besides, stories in MMO's are more about how you write your own story with your friends...at least that's how I view it...that's why it's called an MMO...

Sorry, but the only time I want to be around other people playing games is at the Pen and Paper table.

[Eledhan]

Veex wrote...

Eledhan wrote...

I just don't think that the community of TOR will be strong enough to really catch on and become the supremely polished game it would have to be to compete with WoW.

It is highly unlikely any MMO is going to hit 11 million subscribers again, especially if they do not release in Asia. Do you honestly believe that a Mass Effect MMO, with shooter mechanics, would be more financially successful than TOR? There are MMOs out there that try and do the TPS/FPS experience, they are not doing well.

Why can't another MMO hit 11 mil?  I don't see anybody leaving WoW (or at least not at a higher rate than the ones who are joining)...so, that means that it's possible.  The market is out there, the question is, who will get it?

These games have not been made with the same level of love and care that Bioware shows all it's games.  And, none of them have come out on consoles.  I know PC is ultimately a better platform for shooters, but console shooters are just plain more fun, and less expensive, and have a larger market base.

What I'm talking about has NEVER been attempted before.

[Giantevilhead]

Eledhan wrote...

Giantevilhead wrote...

Eledhan wrote...

llinsane1ll wrote...

Star Wars: The Old Republic - By BioWare

Yes, I am aware of this...I'm talking about further down the road...after ME3, which could put the release date of the ME MMO as far away as 4 or 5 years after TOR is released...

The 360 and the PS3 may not even be able to handle a game with this kind of concept.

But by then, Bioware would make a another KotoR MMORPG. It's not exactly easy to get the Star Wars license. Most of the developers at Bioware probably dreamed of making Star Wars games their entire lives. They're not going to be willing to give up that license.

Who said they have to give it up?

That's for the PC, the game I'm talking about is for consoles...

And besides, Mass Effect's universe is WAY better than Star Wars, in my oppinion

The 360 and PS3 will be obsolete by then. The new console will be able to handle a Star Wars MMORPG, which Bioware will make.

As for Mass Effect's universe being better than Star Wars. Really? It's interesting and fun but it takes tons of ideas from Star Wars, as well as Star Trek, Farscape, Warhammer 40K, Babylon 5, and a bunch of other sci-fi.