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[PatrickBatemanV]

Either this is a bug or there's something I'm missing.  My paragon points are maxed out, and yet after I do Miranda and Jack's loyalty missions, the charm option to keep both of them loyal is still greyed out.  This is on two different play throughs, no less.

[yummysoap]

Bumpity bump bump.



Same thing happens with me. Had about 95% paragon and I still couldn't get the two of them to stop catfighting without outright choosing sides.



My only conclusion is that if you bonked Jack or have initiated the start up romance conversation with Miranda then maybe it's impossible to satisfy both of them, but that's pretty gay.



Anyone shed light on this particular issue? Or at least point out whether you had started a romance between one of the two before you resolved it?

[Maxiric]

What version of the game are you running, Xbox or PC.



I have the PC version and have had no problem, but I have only done one play through.

[RaidShock]

It's probably a bug. I've had the same thing happen to me before in the Tali/Legion confrontation.

[yummysoap]

360 for me. Happened on an imported Maleshep and again on the same character on NG+.

[medlish]

Same problem, PC version, no import. Just playing through with an imported character and I'll see what happens.

People pointed out that it may have to do with the previous conversations you had with them.

[yummysoap]

medlish wrote...
People pointed out that it may have to do with the previous conversations you had with them.

If that's the case could some of the successful charmers/intimidators provide some insight into the conversations you had with them prior to the catfight?

Modifié par yummysoap, 06 février 2010 - 02:54 .

[aeetos21]

I figured it out!



Well, mostly... I think - be nice if somebody confirmed.



Anyway, I was doing my paragade - saw that I was about half a bar away from max paragon and I still had half my loyalty missions left including Jack. But after reading all these posts about people having 100% and not getting the option it occurred to me that aside from having 100% par or ren all these people were also waiting towards the end in order to get that option.



Even though my meter wasn't maxed out I immediately went to do the mission and found that the option was indeed available even though the meter wasn't maxed out. So, if this theory pans out, it comes back to not having the argument too late in the game as well as having enough points to get the neutral/impartial option.

[Forwen]

Does it work like that for Tali/Legion as well? I broke up the Miranda/Jack argument just fine but couldn't with those two despite having over 80% Renegade.

[aeetos21]

I saved legion's side mission for last so I've always had a high par or ren score but never had any trouble with it. So I can't say about the 80%, sorry =(

[BHRamsay]

No problems for me ....however i did have class mastery at the time and I was doing a Femshep run. If it's related to romance then that would disappointing. Still it would useful to know if anyone NOT having a romance with Jack or Miranda or Tali was having these problems.

[ReubenLiew]

I didn't romance either Jack nor Miranda during the catfight and the option was available for me, so it might be tied to romance.

[yummysoap]

ReubenLiew wrote...

I didn't romance either Jack nor Miranda during the catfight and the option was available for me, so it might be tied to romance.

Oh Bioware, why must you do this?!

The whole conversation unlocked according to Paragon/Renegade status has just turned out to be a giant buggy confusing clusterf*ck.

I want me some Persuade skill.

[ThBrokenPromise]

Shyt i Completed legion's one immediately after he gave it to me i had the paragon option but not the renegade one weird.....

But Miranda Vs Jack is take the Shyt, how would anyone know you cant romance them at first ????

THANKS A LOT BIOWARE

[Naltair]

yummysoap wrote...

ReubenLiew wrote...

I didn't romance either Jack nor Miranda during the catfight and the option was available for me, so it might be tied to romance.

Oh Bioware, why must you do this?!

The whole conversation unlocked according to Paragon/Renegade status has just turned out to be a giant buggy confusing clusterf*ck.

I want me some Persuade skill.

Increase your class power, and if you are really nervous evolve into the mastery that gives +100% Paragon/Renegade.  Done both scenes at least three times now and never a problem.

http://masseffect.wi...Assault_Mastery

Modifié par Naltair, 06 février 2010 - 05:17 .

[DarkNova50]

The whole conversation unlocked according to Paragon/Renegade status has just turned out to be a giant buggy confusing clusterf*ck.

I want me some Persuade skill.

God, this.

[Naltair]

DarkNova50 wrote...

The whole conversation unlocked according to Paragon/Renegade status has just turned out to be a giant buggy confusing clusterf*ck.

I want me some Persuade skill.

God, this.

Why it's there, in your class power.

[Mak89]

No problems for me, either it's a bug or your not doing something right.

[Speakeasy13]

Naltair wrote...

DarkNova50 wrote...

The whole conversation unlocked according to Paragon/Renegade status has just turned out to be a giant buggy confusing clusterf*ck.

I want me some Persuade skill.

God, this.

Why it's there, in your class power.

Not that, this. Read the thread carefully.

Gosh Bioware, I can't believe I let you screw me a second time... Why the f**k did you have to make it so complicated?

[uv23]

I had the same problem, doing Jack's loyalty mission late in the game. Almost maxed paragon but no charm option. Whereas I had no trouble talking down Tali and Legion. This is a definite bug.

[xMister Vx]

I'm sure I did it on PC and Xbox, both times male characters (if it changes anything), and I don't think I had max Paragon. I am sure however that I had on the first character the evolve that gives +100% P/R points, while on the second one I went with the +70% option. Won't be able to find the exact save now, but I will check, since I'm replaying through it again.



Did you guys try to restart from a save during Jack's mission? It might just be a temporary glitch.

[Eshaye]

ReubenLiew wrote...

I didn't romance either Jack nor Miranda during the catfight and the option was available for me, so it might be tied to romance.

It's not tied to romance, I play a female Paragon, was able to diffuse Tali and Legion, but not Miranda and Jack, both occured close to the end of the game.. I left those missions for last. 

Will do those missions first next time around. 

Modifié par Eshaye, 06 février 2010 - 06:03 .

[medlish]

aeetos21 wrote...

I figured it out!

Well, mostly... I think - be nice if somebody confirmed.

Anyway, I was doing my paragade - saw that I was about half a bar away from max paragon and I still had half my loyalty missions left including Jack. But after reading all these posts about people having 100% and not getting the option it occurred to me that aside from having 100% par or ren all these people were also waiting towards the end in order to get that option.

Even though my meter wasn't maxed out I immediately went to do the mission and found that the option was indeed available even though the meter wasn't maxed out. So, if this theory pans out, it comes back to not having the argument too late in the game as well as having enough points to get the neutral/impartial option.

Nope, not the solution. Just finished the scene with my imported shepard. Did it as last loyalty mission (except Legion).. Worked fine. 100% Paragon.
What I also did: I explored more, I switched the crew I took with me more often.
Don't know the real solution, somehow I believe it has to do something with importing or not importing from ME1.

[gutty47]

Maybe you need to take Miranda on Jack's loyalty mission so she can hear the audio logs about not telling TIM about stuff that happened there.

[Fishy]

You might wait to long .. Just do their side quest when they ask you.
I finish most of my playthrough with 75 of either bar and every choice's unlocked.