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[Strykzilla]

That's my point EJ you didn't post where was this h8 then Rambo? If it makes you feel better to troll a smaller group so be it.

[EJ42]

Strykzilla wrote...

That's my point EJ you didn't post where was this h8 then Rambo? If it makes you feel better to troll a smaller group so be it.

This is not trolling.  It's a reality check.

Also, I do not live my life on the forums.  I probably see only about 5% or less of all posts.  This one just happened to catch my eye.  I made the unfortunate assumption that it would contain some sort of meaningful information, but it was only a whiny complaint.

Whenever I read the ranting whines on these forums, I'm reminded of this scene.  The customer is not always right.  Sometimes, they're more trouble than they are worth, and need to be banned from the premises.
(To help avoid possible confusion, you would be the bald guy where Bioware would be played by Catherine Zeta-Jones.)

Before you go off spouting nonsense about me being a Bioware fanboy, I'm the farthest thing from it.  There are countless things about DA:O that I dislike.  That's why I love the toolset so much.

I realize you feel as though you've been done a great injustice, but whining about it on the forum isn't going to garner you any respect or sympathy.

Modifié par EJ42, 02 février 2010 - 02:18 .

[Dahelia]

Eliphaz10 wrote...

yeah, they said RTO was coming out jan 5 for ps3 also, so yeah go ahead and hold your breath for awakenings.  And your right I'll sit si back and be happy, who care right, I'll just wait with a big old smile, maybe I should change my pic and pretend to be a chick like you guys too.

Yeah yeah...it was suppose to be out Jan. 5th for all platforms, it didn't...then it came out for the PC and 360, wait till Thursday and Awakening will be out on the date it says for the PS3, if you don't like it...go play something else. And what problem is there with my picture?? Oh right...Girls aren't on the internet.

[Monica21]

EJ42 wrote...

Strykzilla wrote...

That's my point EJ you didn't post where was this h8 then Rambo? If it makes you feel better to troll a smaller group so be it.

This is not trolling.  It's a reality check.

Also, I do not live my life on the forums.  I probably see only about 5% or less of all posts.  This one just happened to catch my eye.  I made the unfortunate assumption that it would contain some sort of meaningful information, but it was only a whiny complaint.

Whenever I read the ranting whines on these forums, I'm reminded of this scene.  The customer is not always right.  Sometimes, they're more trouble than they are worth, and need to be banned from the premises.
(To help avoid possible confusion, you would be the bald guy where Bioware would be played by Catherine Zeta-Jones.)

Before you go off spouting nonsense about me being a Bioware fanboy, I'm the farthest thing from it.  There are countless things about DA:O that I dislike.  That's why I love the toolset so much.

I realize you feel as though you've been done a great injustice, but whining about it on the forum isn't going to garner you any respect or sympathy.

EJ, if you keep talking about movies like Love, Actually and No Reservations, I'm going to have to change my opinion of you. ;-)

[0LunarEclipse0]

Eliphaz10 wrote...

I guess it's true, Bioware doesn't give a crap about ps3 owners. I guess we'll wait for the scraps from biowares table. I guess if they have a minute or two them might finish RTO for us, but they are probably too busy making new and cool patches and other expansions for Xbox 360 and PC owners, lucky them....

AS I HAVE STATED ABOUT A MILLION TIMES BACK IN THE  OLD FORUMS

The PS3 is an equal platform to the 360 (some would argue superior and though it is possible we are not starting this here). Any change in graphics or gameplay is usually caused by lazy developing with the excuse the PS3 is hard to develop for. Obviously my response to that is: if you are going to do a job do it right. Your laziness should not take away from my experience.

Now what is the point of me saying all this?

The PS3 IS harder to develop for, products take a little more time and verification for DLC takes more time. It is a very small price we pay for free online and one I gladly pay. The system in my eyes has taken exclusives this year. Bioware had delivered quality product and will continue with RTO.

Short response: be paitient, you will see great things from that PS3.

[mslc123]

Solution: Sell your console and buy a graphics card for your computer. Problem solved.

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

0LunarEclipse0 wrote...

AS I HAVE STATED ABOUT A MILLION TIMES BACK IN THE  OLD FORUMS

The PS3 is an equal platform to the 360 (some would argue superior and though it is possible we are not starting this here). Any change in graphics or gameplay is usually caused by lazy developing with the excuse the PS3 is hard to develop for. Obviously my response to that is: if you are going to do a job do it right. Your laziness should not take away from my experience.

Now what is the point of me saying all this?

The PS3 IS harder to develop for, products take a little more time and verification for DLC takes more time. It is a very small price we pay for free online and one I gladly pay. The system in my eyes has taken exclusives this year. Bioware had delivered quality product and will continue with RTO.

Short response: be paitient, you will see great things from that PS3.

Well minus the lack of ram 256 vs the 360's 512 and the fact that dev houses have begged Sony for better development tools and kits since the PS1 and it still hasn't happened. Its not lazy developing, Sony hardware just truly is a **** to program for.

[war_munger]

All PS3 owners should be used to by now that Sony is always late on there releases. They have a bad habit of doing that. What do you expect from them. WE as PS3 owners are not paying to play online on our consoles. But Microsoft is a bigger company than Sony. I am a PS3 owner myself and I am highly upset, but all we can do is wait until Sony is ready to dish out the RTO So just hang in there and it will come when their half paced programmers finish it.

[Bryant84]

haha this article sums it up perfectly



http://uk.ps3.ign.co.../1065653p1.html

[Fexelea]

Sarah, I am quite familiar with the infrastructure of the PS3, and it is not more difficult to develop for. It is new and different and you need to learn it, and of course acquiring skills with any tool require time and training. The upside is that the console has some remarkable aspects to be exploited for developing that can produce really interesting dynamics.

Anyway, we have already established that the holdup started at Bioware since they fixed the 360 version first and then moved on to the ps3 version, so it has nothing to do with the console itself or Sony and more to do with an internal staffing decision.



But i think the comments are more towards the fact that we have seen little Bioware feedback on any ps3 related issues, even when they claim to support all platforms equally.

[Eliphaz10]

Dahelia wrote...

Eliphaz10 wrote...

yeah, they said RTO was coming out jan 5 for ps3 also, so yeah go ahead and hold your breath for awakenings.  And your right I'll sit si back and be happy, who care right, I'll just wait with a big old smile, maybe I should change my pic and pretend to be a chick like you guys too.

Yeah yeah...it was suppose to be out Jan. 5th for all platforms, it didn't...then it came out for the PC and 360, wait till Thursday and Awakening will be out on the date it says for the PS3, if you don't like it...go play something else. And what problem is there with my picture?? Oh right...Girls aren't on the internet.

Hey It's Thursday, um..... I'm still waiting, apparently it's still "coming soon" . Maybe next time you should know what your talking about.

[SheffSteel]

If we're going to start comparing the various platforms in terms of delayed ship dates, I think the PC has had by far the longest.

[SurrealSadi]

Eliphaz10 wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

Eliphaz10 wrote...

yeah, they said RTO was coming out jan 5 for ps3 also, so yeah go ahead and hold your breath for awakenings.  And your right I'll sit si back and be happy, who care right, I'll just wait with a big old smile, maybe I should change my pic and pretend to be a chick like you guys too.

Yeah yeah...it was suppose to be out Jan. 5th for all platforms, it didn't...then it came out for the PC and 360, wait till Thursday and Awakening will be out on the date it says for the PS3, if you don't like it...go play something else. And what problem is there with my picture?? Oh right...Girls aren't on the internet.

Hey It's Thursday, um..... I'm still waiting, apparently it's still "coming soon" . Maybe next time you should know what your talking about.

People simply assumed it would be out this Thursday.  Obviously, it's not, and by the way, the PSN doesn't update till later in the day.

It will likely be out Next Thursday, or the week after. As I have said before, PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE.

[Farahot]

Let's look at the facts, RTO is nowhere to be seen for PS3, a patch is nowhere to been seen for PS3, the expansion is downgraded to DLC only for PS3. Yeah, blame it on Sony. Do so. LoL. :->

[Kalfear]

Dahelia wrote...

Eliphaz10 wrote...

Believe that if you want, but just wait and see what happens when Awakenings comes out and Xbox 360 and PC oweners are talking about how great it is and we are sitting on or thumbs probably waiting for "next holiday season....."

Are you bloody kidding me? Awakening comes out 3/16/10 for the PS3, the SAME DAY as the 360 and PC. Look before you whine..Sony has very strict guildlines, it takes a lot longer. Also, Playstation Network updates every Thursday at around 6pm EST...so you will have to wait till then. 

LOL Dah

Eliphaz is exactly why parents should do their jobs and not allow children under 17 to play DA:O

No use in argueing with him

[Eliphaz10]

Who are you Kalfear? Why not make an actual comment on the subject at hand, instead of making no sense? Do you even know anything about what we are talkin about?

[Viglin]

Eliphaz10 wrote...

Who are you Kalfear? Why not make an actual comment on the subject at hand, instead of making no sense? Do you even know anything about what we are talkin about?

Im a Ps3 user, and l dont know what your talking about....thou your doing a top job of ignoring posts that post facts.

Oh, and he's indicating your acting like a spoilt teenager.... a sad trend in ps3 users over the last few days on here.

[Eliphaz10]

I e-mailed Bioware and EA asking for nfo about the delay o RTO for ps3, I received a confirmation e-mail 4 days ago saying my questions would be answered within 24 hours.... I'm still waitig. Maybe they will get back to me this holiday season.

[Eliphaz10]

What facts have been posted buddy, I have seen none of these so called facts, only rumors from god knows who. Bioware themselves can't even get back to me with any "facts"

[ladydesire]

Eliphaz10 wrote...

What facts have been posted buddy, I have seen none of these so called facts, only rumors from god knows who. Bioware themselves can't even get back to me with any "facts"

Fact: Return to Ostagar for PS3 is in Sony certification testing; http://social.biowar...dex/841470&lf=8 (second to the last Bioware post in that group).

Fact: DLC for all three platforms is made in the same toolset, but the XBox 360 and PS3 versions need to be manually generated from the PC version, then sent to certification testing, which can hold up a release if something is discovered at any point.

[Eliphaz10]

Yeah, I read that on BIOWARE's post too, Like I said before, show me some facts, not the developer passing the buck. Has anyone actually contacted Sony to verify this "fact"

[Kail Ashton]

(pssst psn store updated and there's no DLC, proceed to forum rage in 3....2....)

Modifié par Kail Ashton, 04 février 2010 - 11:20 .

[Viglin]

Eliphaz10 wrote...

Yeah, I read that on BIOWARE's post too, Like I said before, show me some facts, not the developer passing the buck. Has anyone actually contacted Sony to verify this "fact"

Why yes, yes l have, and then they told me to personally call the President and personally complain.

Of course, any informed ps3user knows Sony has rigourous testing on ALL games and DLC, so we dont end up with screw ups like what the 360 users went thru.

[coffeerox]

So how is it that only Return to Ostagar gets held up with "Sony certification testing" and no other game, I'm talking about NONE, have had their DLC held up for the same reasons? I haven't seen any, and I've been a PS3 owner since launch.

Some of you guys are confusing timed DLC (such as Fallout 3, GTAIV and so on) with actual DLC delays (such as this one) and PS3 hasn't had very many problems getting DLC where it needs to go. Bioware simply said it was Sony's fault, ended screwing up with all versions, then decide to fix the 360 version first, followed by PC and then PS3, and THEN re-submitted all 3. But yet still claim it's still in Sony's certification testing. The only logical conclusion is that they are in Sony's certification testing for a second time.

To be clear, I have never seen a DLC or patch have so many problems getting through Sonys' certification process. If they needed a game, DLC or patch and they schedule it for a certain day, it'll be there.

Modifié par coffeerox, 04 février 2010 - 11:24 .

[Eliphaz10]

Viglin wrote...

Eliphaz10 wrote...

Yeah, I read that on BIOWARE's post too, Like I said before, show me some facts, not the developer passing the buck. Has anyone actually contacted Sony to verify this "fact"

Why yes, yes l have, and then they told me to personally call the President and personally complain.

Of course, any informed ps3user knows Sony has rigourous testing on ALL games and DLC, so we dont end up with screw ups like what the 360 users went thru.

Good one Troll, I guess I was right, no real facts here.