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Ayanna Nyx

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They handed it to Sony for testing, could Bioware get an update on it? Yes, but then what is the point. It'll be ready when it's ready.

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Ayanna Nyx wrote...

It's not Bioware the finger needs to be pointed at, it is Sony.


please, do enlighten us.

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There was an announcement somewhere saying exactly that...



"Bioware officially doesnt give a crap about PS3 owners."





Now where was that.....

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that's just lazy talk... traditional gets old. it all depends on your commitment to make it work. if bioware had been more committed, rto's fix for the ps3 shouldn't have been a problem but they chose to fix the ps3 version last. which, for me as a ps3 owner, is a no-no.




Actually, to clarify, the PS3 version is in certification with Sony right now. It was developed concurrently, and was submitted for testing at the same time as Xbox 360. However, Sony has a different process than Microsoft, and so their process takes longer. This is not to point a finger and blame someone else, but to make you aware of the fact that we do consider the PS3 right along with other platforms. But that part of the release process is something that we don't have control over.






And you can find that here: http://social.biowar...dex/841470&lf=8

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You didn' t see that they completely sidestepped the question? Yes, the content is in certification process, however what they did not tell you (or perhaps, did not pay attention to) was that the original one that was in certification, was pulled along with the 360 and PC version. 

It was then later proved that they fixed the 360 version first, sent that out, then the PC and then the PS3 last.  So now it's in certification again which is causing it to be late.  Do you not see that they put PS3 on the lowest priority even knowing that their process is longer? It's Bioware and Bioware's fault alone that it's not out on time.  They could have done the PC version first, followed by PS3 and then 360.  The two console ones could have come at the same time if they timed it properly.

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I emailed Sony and they emailed me back saying that it is the publisher, naming "Bioware", that is responsible for the hold up.

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coffeerox wrote...

You didn' t see that they completely sidestepped the question? Yes, the content is in certification process, however what they did not tell you (or perhaps, did not pay attention to) was that the original one that was in certification, was pulled along with the 360 and PC version.


How many times does it have to be said that game content for all three platforms is developed on the PC, in the same toolset? If there is a problem in the game data, all three versions need to be fixed. Otherwise, there will be complaints about a bug that they knew about and didn't fix.

It was then later proved that they fixed the 360 version first, sent that out, then the PC and then the PS3 last.  So now it's in certification again which is causing it to be late.  Do you not see that they put PS3 on the lowest priority even knowing that their process is longer? It's Bioware and Bioware's fault alone that it's not out on time.  They could have done the PC version first, followed by PS3 and then 360.  The two console ones could have come at the same time if they timed it properly.


Well, there was that issue with the XBox 360 Title Update that needed dealt with, but that did not affect the DLC data for any platform; what is likely is that Bioware had some other stuff that they were wanting to make available that also needed certification so they didn't send the DLC until the other was ready.

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Ayanna Nyx wrote...

Victor Wachter wrote...



Killian Kalthorne wrote...



that's just lazy talk... traditional gets old. it all depends on your commitment to make it work. if bioware had been more committed, rto's fix for the ps3 shouldn't have been a problem but they chose to fix the ps3 version last. which, for me as a ps3 owner, is a no-no.




Actually, to clarify, the PS3 version is in certification with Sony right now. It was developed concurrently, and was submitted for testing at the same time as Xbox 360. However, Sony has a different process than Microsoft, and so their process takes longer. This is not to point a finger and blame someone else, but to make you aware of the fact that we do consider the PS3 right along with other platforms. But that part of the release process is something that we don't have control over.






And you can find that here: http://social.biowar...dex/841470&lf=8



thats just half of the story, cause 3 days earlier victor said:
"Once we were able to resolve the issue for 360 and delivered the second title update to MS for final certification then work began in earnest on the short hop to moving this across to PS3 and directing the test focus there. The nature of the issue was such that it required the same programmers and made more sense for that particular ‘nut’ to be cracked on the 360 first to really understand how to fix it once and for all, so this was not something we could do in parallel for both platforms."

http://social.biowar...dex/804809&lf=8

to recap first he said: "Once we were able to resolve the issue for 360 and delivered the second title update to MS for final certification then work began in earnest on the short hop to moving this across to PS3 and directing the test focus there"... " so this was not something we could do in parallel for both platforms."

then he said: "the PS3 version is in certification with Sony right now. It was developed concurrently, and was submitted for testing at the same time as Xbox 360".

call me crazy but that's a contradiction. so its hard to blame sony when bioware can't tell what really IS happening.

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I will start by saying that i'm a PS3 gamer, and honestly why is anybody that isn't even posting here other than to make themselves feel better and gloat that they of RtO already when they should just be playing it.



ok honestly ppl I think it's safe to assume that we're all gamers here, but honestly every system and every company has to run exhaustive testing on a product b4 release. Hell look at the PC and the Diablo Franchise things have been delayed years just to fix bugs. If it is bugs that is holding up the process in getting the game out then would you want it with or with out the bugs regardless of how long it might take. And honestly you must realize that Microsoft is heavily invested in the Xbox and (obviously the computer) so some things are gonna happen more quickly when they've got similar processes.



In the end what really matters that we get it at the same time, or that they get it right the first time we get it.

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so from what everything i just read i guess none really know when exactly that RtO might come out. so i guess that all we PS3 owners can do is wait, i don't think me complaning about the problem will get anything done faster or better.

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awsome_robot wrote...




thats just half of the story, cause 3 days earlier victor said:
"Once we were able to resolve the issue for 360 and delivered the second title update to MS for final certification then work began in earnest on the short hop to moving this across to PS3 and directing the test focus there. The nature of the issue was such that it required the same programmers and made more sense for that particular ‘nut’ to be cracked on the 360 first to really understand how to fix it once and for all, so this was not something we could do in parallel for both platforms."

http://social.biowar...dex/804809&lf=8

to recap first he said: "Once we were able to resolve the issue for 360 and delivered the second title update to MS for final certification then work began in earnest on the short hop to moving this across to PS3 and directing the test focus there"... " so this was not something we could do in parallel for both platforms."

then he said: "the PS3 version is in certification with Sony right now. It was developed concurrently, and was submitted for testing at the same time as Xbox 360".

call me crazy but that's a contradiction. so its hard to blame sony when bioware can't tell what really IS happening.


Or he could be talking about two different, but related, elements needed; one is the DLC itself, the other is a PS3 titles update similar to the one that got fouled up on the XBox 360. The DLC very well could have been released by Bioware for certification by Microsoft and Sony at the same time, but as the qoute indicates, the title update could not; it is the title update certification that seems to be holding things up.

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you will always have love from me pc, your a fellow gamer

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avenged79 wrote...

so from what everything i just read i guess none really know when exactly that RtO might come out. so i guess that all we PS3 owners can do is wait, i don't think me complaning about the problem will get anything done faster or better.


lol there's a nuget of wisdom in your child like simplicity

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thegreateski

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What is a PS3?

Sounds like a fancy coffee maker.

Modifié par thegreateski, 07 février 2010 - 01:01 .


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It only does everything, thegreatski. Mine also makes a mean latte.



Well, there's nothing we can do, and craing moar won't help. An update on the situation with RtO would be very nice though.



So, let's chill & relax for now.

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DrunkDeadman wrote...

It only does everything, thegreatski. Mine also makes a mean latte.

*Slow clap*

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god what is worse then people complaining about rto not out yet. is the fowl stench of the trolls who linger to hate on ps3 users. get a life or go play your xbox or pc but to sit back and just talk masa on ps3 users is bs.

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I couldn't agree more spark420, it's very immature of them. I couldn't care less about having or not having a piece of content that only adds about an hour to the game and I'm a very patient man, I'll wait however long it takes, honestly don't even know if I'll buy it actually.  I'll probably only get it if I get bored with the content I currently own.

Modifié par STfan32, 07 février 2010 - 09:27 .


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thegreateski wrote...

What is a PS3?

Sounds like a fancy coffee maker.


No its a George Foreman grill ahaha

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Capt. Klef wrote...

I emailed Sony and they emailed me back saying that it is the publisher, naming "Bioware", that is responsible for the hold up.


Can we please get a copy of that mail?

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I always preferred Xbox myself though the only things that turned me off that console are those Red Rings!

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Randomname1212 wrote...

I always preferred Xbox myself though the only things that turned me off that console are those Red Rings!

Just wrap three towels around the Xbox, remove the hard drive, unplug the controler and the video cord, then leave it on for 20-30 mins.

I have defeated technology! with towels!

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thegreateski wrote...

Randomname1212 wrote...

I always preferred Xbox myself though the only things that turned me off that console are those Red Rings!

Just wrap three towels around the Xbox, remove the hard drive, unplug the controler and the video cord, then leave it on for 20-30 mins.

I have defeated technology! with towels!

I  bet thats what the guys down in Microsoft do to fix broken Xboxes, and then they make the owners pay outrageous prices for the repairs.

Modifié par Randomname1212, 08 février 2010 - 12:44 .


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Fexelea

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Xbox "repairs" within warranty are free. However they don't repair your machine, they refurb it...



But lol at the towels.

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So this thread is about people who are angry cause they don't have the expansion as fast as other consoles? ....



FAIL