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[BrandNewMan]

Wow, Ninja. Wow... way to get this thread locked.

[DoctorOctagonapus]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Fairly sure Bioware don't care about a worldwide gay boycott totalling 500 people max. Infinity Ward probably lost about 50K sales numbers due to the dedicated server issue, and they couldn't give a toss.

Well I suppose that's their choice. If BioWare wants to completely ignore lost sales, that's their choice. But BioWare isn't infinity Ward, they generally hold a high standard for themselves. keep in mind 500 people*3 games $50 each, that's $75,000 out the window, because they didn't feel like implementing something they may have already made. BioWare has this interesting habit of listening to their customers, it's why  they get consistent sales. If that habit starts to slip, they may lose sales, nto just from boycotters, but a bigger portion of their fanbase.

On an unrelated note, who are you? their spokesperson?

[Nautica773]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
Yeah man, Shale was a big win. Awesome character.

Indeed. One of my favourite characters in the game. It's a pity there's so many fighters since I have a hard time taking Shale out of my party to actually try anyone else. 

[Akrim_Drak]

Harken's had a bit too much to drink...

[Endurance_117]

Someone better stop Ninja before he gets this thread locked

[Arik7]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Fairly sure Bioware don't care about a worldwide gay boycott totalling 500 people max. Infinity Ward probably lost about 50K sales numbers due to the dedicated server issue, and they couldn't give a toss.

For a very small forum like this, supporters of same-sex romance have quite presence here, so I don't see your point.    On the other hand, there are very few sadistic homophobes like yourself around here.   

Modifié par Arik7, 09 février 2010 - 01:20 .

[FataliTensei]

KateKane wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Gays still making outrageous demands...lol...
I don't see how you can read anything else into Muzyka's interview other than "Tbh, we're not comfortable putting a gay romance out there on this particular mass appeal game, so unlucky. I mean, it isn't like we haven't done it for other games so...stop ****ing? It's our game and our character, and he isn't gay, at all."

And all this "still up in the air" talk is just a load of horse****. Consider, if they made it, and didn't include, what does that say to you? Over 3 years and 2 games...what does that say to you?

 Shut your mouth, you sound like one of those redneck reporters on faux news. I bet you get a stiffy everytime you watch it too

WOAH.

No need to go there Ninja Mage

yeah cool it ninja, we don't need the thread getting sgut down again

BTW if it does get shut down I'll open it up again a gay shepard part 3, that way we can keep discussing he topic

[LoveAsThouWilt]

Nautica773 wrote...

LoveAsThouWilt wrote...
Know what I wonder? I the gay developers up in bioware kept these versions once told it wouldn't make it to the final for themselves lol I would.

I'm sure no one likes to see the content they work on get cut.

If it weren't for day 1 DLC, an entire character was almost removed from Dragon Age. If I had done all that excellent writing on Shale, I know I would be a little sad over the decision. 

Which brings up a point about cut content. Shale was initially removed because his model was too big and couldn't path find through doorways particularly well. There are so many factors involved in getting content into games that it could be just about anything that causes a piece of the game to get scrapped before release.

True, but it is different when they don't tell us the actually reasona and give us proof as well. It feels like a cop-out otherwise.

[Arik7]

We just passed 100 pages. Let's make this the longest thread ever on this forum.

[JamesMoriarty123]

DoctorOctagonapus wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Fairly sure Bioware don't care about a worldwide gay boycott totalling 500 people max. Infinity Ward probably lost about 50K sales numbers due to the dedicated server issue, and they couldn't give a toss.

Well I suppose that's their choice. If BioWare wants to completely ignore lost sales, that's their choice. But BioWare isn't infinity Ward, they generally hold a high standard for themselves. keep in mind 500 people*3 games $50 each, that's $75,000 out the window, because they didn't feel like implementing something they may have already made. BioWare has this interesting habit of listening to their customers, it's why  they get consistent sales. If that habit starts to slip, they may lose sales, nto just from boycotters, but a bigger portion of their fanbase.

On an unrelated note, who are you? their spokesperson?

When you're talking sales figures in the multimillions, 75K is chump change. Also, if they get bad press over including a gaysex option, and it's bound to come from Fox News or some other network, you got x10 lost sales right there. Pretty sure there'd be some uptight wankers who try and play the kid angle, like "My child was exposed to gaysex! Outrageous".

This is one point where I'm actually behind you guys, I don't want it in, but not because I find it immoral, I just want to preserve the kickass, badass, man's man image of Shepherd. All these news channels who demean games and scream censorship just annoy me. I mean there's no harm and nothing wrong in actually being gay so...

But you can be sure some news net's would put a negative spin on it.

[Nautica773]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...
That's what I love about the DA team though. They're more upfront about that sort of thing than the ME team tends to be. <_<

They even told us how they scrapped Jowan being a party member to my utter dismay. (Honestly the one male mage! Why dev team why?!? oh wait there wasn't enough time and they wasn't sure if people would like him! ZOMG! I never would have known if the Dev team hadn't been upfront withit! )

Don't love them too much. For everything they tell us was cut, there's a good hundred things or more that they'll never talk about.

(I am sad they couldn't get the lyrium addiction worked in though. Fingers crossed for the sequel.)

LoveAsThouWilt wrote...
True, but it is different when they don't tell us the actually reasona and give us proof as well. It feels like a cop-out otherwise.

True, it would be a little better than the other excuses. But, when it gets down to it, people would still complain even if they officially announced 'they didn't have time and it took less priority.'

I doubt it would stop any of the 'double standards' 'it's okay to get in lesbians but not gays' and all the other threads. Also, I don't see nearly the amount of interaction from the Mass Effect team as from the Dragon Age team on these forums so they may not even post here. 

I know, if I worked at BioWare, there's more reason not to come to the forums than there is to post here.

Modifié par Nautica773, 09 février 2010 - 01:25 .

[JamesMoriarty123]

Arik7 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Fairly sure Bioware don't care about a worldwide gay boycott totalling 500 people max. Infinity Ward probably lost about 50K sales numbers due to the dedicated server issue, and they couldn't give a toss.

For a very small forum like this, supporters of same-sex romance have quite presence here, so I don't see your point.    On the other hand, there are very few sadistic homophobes like yourself around here.   

There isnt even 500 members in your group, let alone 500 people who have responded to this thread. And yeah, I've had the "Oh! You homophobe!" thing before, whatever you say man. Got nothing against gays, just dont want gaysex in my game. End of.

Modifié par JamesMoriarty123, 09 février 2010 - 01:24 .

[hycer]

Arik7 wrote...

We just passed 100 pages. Let's make this the longest thread ever on this forum.

Yay! 100 pages.  I really hope this can get dev's attention.

[JamesMoriarty123]

hycer wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

We just passed 100 pages. Let's make this the longest thread ever on this forum.

Yay! 100 pages.  I really hope this can get dev's attention.

Might as well face it, they ain't gonna change the formula for the FINAL installment.

[Nautica773]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Might as well face it, they ain't gonna change the formula for the FINAL installment.

Yeah, given the short development time, I wouldn't get anyone's hopes up.

[JamesMoriarty123]

Nautica773 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Might as well face it, they ain't gonna change the formula for the FINAL installment.

Yeah, given the short development time, I wouldn't get anyone's hopes up.

So they aiming for a quicker turnaround between ME2 and 3 than there was for ME1 and 2? I mean 2 years for a balls out awesome sequel is pretty impressive.

Modifié par JamesMoriarty123, 09 février 2010 - 01:28 .

[FataliTensei]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Fairly sure Bioware don't care about a worldwide gay boycott totalling 500 people max. Infinity Ward probably lost about 50K sales numbers due to the dedicated server issue, and they couldn't give a toss.

For a very small forum like this, supporters of same-sex romance have quite presence here, so I don't see your point.    On the other hand, there are very few sadistic homophobes like yourself around here.   

There isnt even 500 members in your group, let alone 500 people who have responded to this thread. And yeah, I've had the "Oh! You homophobe!" thing before, whatever you say man. Got nothing against gays, just dont want gaysex in my game. End of.

Again we come back to the fact that it would be an OPTION. Areyou telling that if the option was included, you would be compelled to pursue it?

[JamesMoriarty123]

FataliTensei wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Fairly sure Bioware don't care about a worldwide gay boycott totalling 500 people max. Infinity Ward probably lost about 50K sales numbers due to the dedicated server issue, and they couldn't give a toss.

For a very small forum like this, supporters of same-sex romance have quite presence here, so I don't see your point.    On the other hand, there are very few sadistic homophobes like yourself around here.   

There isnt even 500 members in your group, let alone 500 people who have responded to this thread. And yeah, I've had the "Oh! You homophobe!" thing before, whatever you say man. Got nothing against gays, just dont want gaysex in my game. End of.

Again we come back to the fact that it would be an OPTION. Areyou telling that if the option was included, you would be compelled to pursue it?

Obviously not...but just having the optoin present, and knowing Shep could be forced down that route, just turns me off man.

[Ninja Mage]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Fairly sure Bioware don't care about a worldwide gay boycott totalling 500 people max. Infinity Ward probably lost about 50K sales numbers due to the dedicated server issue, and they couldn't give a toss.

For a very small forum like this, supporters of same-sex romance have quite presence here, so I don't see your point.    On the other hand, there are very few sadistic homophobes like yourself around here.   

There isnt even 500 members in your group, let alone 500 people who have responded to this thread. And yeah, I've had the "Oh! You homophobe!" thing before, whatever you say man. Got nothing against gays, just dont want gaysex in my game. End of.

You are a homophobe man. End of story, You sound like a heartless bigot too. A man's man can still make love to a man, MAN. You're better of spouting your prattle to people who care what you have to say

[LoveAsThouWilt]

They probably won't give it to us, but it won't stop me from talking about it and pestering them for avoiding the question asked them by IGN in the first place. Go IGN for actually asking it. Bad IGN though for not carrying through with it and actually GETTING an answer from them, but what else can you do if they won't give it.

[Nautica773]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
So they aiming for a quicker turnaround between ME2 and 3 than there was for ME1 and 2? I mean 2 years for a balls out awesome sequel is pretty impressive.

I expect they won't be changing the engine so we we're looking at a 1-2 year development cycle on the third, assuming the best scenario. If I had make a guess out of thin air, I'd say next summer for the finale. We already know they immediately started work on the third before ME2 even shipped.

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
Obviously not...but just having the optoin present, and knowing Shep could be forced down that route, just turns me off man.

It's as distressing as finding out someone can romance Tali. But you find that it's not really that bad in the end.

Modifié par Nautica773, 09 février 2010 - 01:33 .

[Endurance_117]

Suddenly, hate speeches everywhere