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[JamesMoriarty123]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Sorry, completely distracted by heroes.

Alright Moriarty let's have a nice civil discussion on a concept of potential middle ground for both sides.
Hendel from one of the novels is a gay biotic marine. If he was included in DLC, Exp., or ME3 then it would not involve any change to any established character. This morning I said I agree with you that changing characters at this stage would be a lousy idea.
Bringing in a new character though, especially one who is an already established part of the universe (and could boost sales of the book by encouraging people to buy that to find out the backstory), is another matter entirely.

Or. What about an Expansion bridging ME2 and ME3 and introducing new characters who can be squad members or contacts in ME3. This would not be a new concept for BioWare as Awakening is bridging DAO and DAO2 and ME:Galaxy introduced Jacob and Miranda.
This Expansion could also function to lay the ground work for a new series of games that follows ME since we all agree that the universe should not die after Shep's story is over.

Also note that this is no way goes against any possible interpretation of Muzyka's statement. Even if you take it as saying no m/m in ME, he clearly states that anything is possible in future games.

If they released a gay character as DLC like Zaeed, and it in NO WAY affected the development and/or outcome of the already established storyline/characters and in ME3 it wasn't present and no reference was made to it if you didn't buy it, then dude, for my money, they could make the ****er tomorrow. Cos I simply wouldn't buy it, and it's no sweat.

As I have previously stated many times, I have nothing against a gay character. One of my favourite fictional characters is Louis from the John Connolly novels. A 6ft tall, sharp dressing bacl assassin, who just happends to be a gay man.

As we're keeping this civil, allow me to try again to represent my position. For me and most ME gamers, Shepherd is something of a gaming icon, enough to rival Gordon Freeman or JC Denton. As Muzyka said, ME is about taking us through Shepherd life, allowing us to tailor parts, but still preserving the central portion of his life. Now if a gay romance had been present since ME1, well there wouldn't be any need for this discussion and I wouldn't oppose it. I mean I played DA through twice and I didn't even REALISE there was a gay option. But the fact is ME isnt DA, Shepherd has a backstory, and an image. Through 2 games he's been entirely hetero, dev's even compared him to the main man, James Tiberius Kirk.

Obviously I understand the desire for a gay man to want to play a gay man in-game, but it's just a little late for all that. I mean the way the thread is written, people say it like it's their right, but as Muzyka says, Shepherd is more defined that any other Bioware PC, he has set attributes. FemShep is included, but thats because there's roughly a 50/50 ratio of men and women in the world, lol. The same cannot be said for Homosexuals.

I'll post this again as the trolls are are clearly not interested in structured debate and have conveniently (for them) ignored this. You wanted structure, here it is. If you completely disregard this all it shows is how closed minded YOU are.

Go ahead, make a retort, if you can...

[DoctorOctagonapus]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Sorry, completely distracted by heroes.

Alright Moriarty let's have a nice civil discussion on a concept of potential middle ground for both sides.
Hendel from one of the novels is a gay biotic marine. If he was included in DLC, Exp., or ME3 then it would not involve any change to any established character. This morning I said I agree with you that changing characters at this stage would be a lousy idea.
Bringing in a new character though, especially one who is an already established part of the universe (and could boost sales of the book by encouraging people to buy that to find out the backstory), is another matter entirely.

Or. What about an Expansion bridging ME2 and ME3 and introducing new characters who can be squad members or contacts in ME3. This would not be a new concept for BioWare as Awakening is bridging DAO and DAO2 and ME:Galaxy introduced Jacob and Miranda.
This Expansion could also function to lay the ground work for a new series of games that follows ME since we all agree that the universe should not die after Shep's story is over.

Also note that this is no way goes against any possible interpretation of Muzyka's statement. Even if you take it as saying no m/m in ME, he clearly states that anything is possible in future games.

If they released a gay character as DLC like Zaeed, and it in NO WAY affected the development and/or outcome of the already established storyline/characters and in ME3 it wasn't present and no reference was made to it if you didn't buy it, then dude, for my money, they could make the ****er tomorrow. Cos I simply wouldn't buy it, and it's no sweat.

As I have previously stated many times, I have nothing against a gay character. One of my favourite fictional characters is Louis from the John Connolly novels. A 6ft tall, sharp dressing bacl assassin, who just happends to be a gay man.

As we're keeping this civil, allow me to try again to represent my position. For me and most ME gamers, Shepherd is something of a gaming icon, enough to rival Gordon Freeman or JC Denton. As Muzyka said, ME is about taking us through Shepherd life, allowing us to tailor parts, but still preserving the central portion of his life. Now if a gay romance had been present since ME1, well there wouldn't be any need for this discussion and I wouldn't oppose it. I mean I played DA through twice and I didn't even REALISE there was a gay option. But the fact is ME isnt DA, Shepherd has a backstory, and an image. Through 2 games he's been entirely hetero, dev's even compared him to the main man, James Tiberius Kirk.

Obviously I understand the desire for a gay man to want to play a gay man in-game, but it's just a little late for all that. I mean the way the thread is written, people say it like it's their right, but as Muzyka says, Shepherd is more defined that any other Bioware PC, he has set attributes. FemShep is included, but thats because there's roughly a 50/50 ratio of men and women in the world, lol. The same cannot be said for Homosexuals.

I disagree that Shepard is so pre-defined. for one thing, his entire past up to that point is up to the player. Most of his personality is as well. Shepard can a virtuous soldier or a ruthless douchebag. He can be a pacifist, or a war mongerer. A genocidist, or a humanist. When someone brings up Shepard, whoever comes to your mind may be totally different than what comes to mine. The face, gender, strategies, fighting tactics, and attitudes could be completely changed.

[IMTrick]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Ryuuchi, there is nothing between Kaiden and Shep, you are clearly trolling it. Or blind. Brothers in arms is what they are. And ****ing lol at them "almost kissing"...are you watching the same game as me? Obv not.

Oh?

Damn...  Just played through ME1 again recently, and couldn't help noticing that every time Shep came near Migraine Boy he'd turn very slowly (almost in slow motion), casually flexing a biotic bicep. Then the amount of time they'd stare into each other's eyes before anyone said anything was... well, tense, to say the least.

Now, I'm not saying either of them is gay, but I'd love to see what happened if you got the two of them alone in the Mako with a couple six-packs.

[ReDSH1FT]

DoctorOctagonapus wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Sorry, completely distracted by heroes.

Alright Moriarty let's have a nice civil discussion on a concept of potential middle ground for both sides.
Hendel from one of the novels is a gay biotic marine. If he was included in DLC, Exp., or ME3 then it would not involve any change to any established character. This morning I said I agree with you that changing characters at this stage would be a lousy idea.
Bringing in a new character though, especially one who is an already established part of the universe (and could boost sales of the book by encouraging people to buy that to find out the backstory), is another matter entirely.

Or. What about an Expansion bridging ME2 and ME3 and introducing new characters who can be squad members or contacts in ME3. This would not be a new concept for BioWare as Awakening is bridging DAO and DAO2 and ME:Galaxy introduced Jacob and Miranda.
This Expansion could also function to lay the ground work for a new series of games that follows ME since we all agree that the universe should not die after Shep's story is over.

Also note that this is no way goes against any possible interpretation of Muzyka's statement. Even if you take it as saying no m/m in ME, he clearly states that anything is possible in future games.

If they released a gay character as DLC like Zaeed, and it in NO WAY affected the development and/or outcome of the already established storyline/characters and in ME3 it wasn't present and no reference was made to it if you didn't buy it, then dude, for my money, they could make the ****er tomorrow. Cos I simply wouldn't buy it, and it's no sweat.

As I have previously stated many times, I have nothing against a gay character. One of my favourite fictional characters is Louis from the John Connolly novels. A 6ft tall, sharp dressing bacl assassin, who just happends to be a gay man.

As we're keeping this civil, allow me to try again to represent my position. For me and most ME gamers, Shepherd is something of a gaming icon, enough to rival Gordon Freeman or JC Denton. As Muzyka said, ME is about taking us through Shepherd life, allowing us to tailor parts, but still preserving the central portion of his life. Now if a gay romance had been present since ME1, well there wouldn't be any need for this discussion and I wouldn't oppose it. I mean I played DA through twice and I didn't even REALISE there was a gay option. But the fact is ME isnt DA, Shepherd has a backstory, and an image. Through 2 games he's been entirely hetero, dev's even compared him to the main man, James Tiberius Kirk.

Obviously I understand the desire for a gay man to want to play a gay man in-game, but it's just a little late for all that. I mean the way the thread is written, people say it like it's their right, but as Muzyka says, Shepherd is more defined that any other Bioware PC, he has set attributes. FemShep is included, but thats because there's roughly a 50/50 ratio of men and women in the world, lol. The same cannot be said for Homosexuals.

I disagree that Shepard is so pre-defined. for one thing, his entire past up to that point is up to the player. Most of his personality is as well. Shepard can a virtuous soldier or a ruthless douchebag. He can be a pacifist, or a war mongerer. A genocidist, or a humanist. When someone brings up Shepard, whoever comes to your mind may be totally different than what comes to mine. The face, gender, strategies, fighting tactics, and attitudes could be completely changed.

Then you disagree with Dr. Muzyka, the guy who ****ing made the character.  I think I'll trust his opinion over yours boy.

Seriously, you just disagreed with the co-president on the character he helped create.  Do you realize how insane that sounds?

[DoctorOctagonapus]

I agree that it's a little late, this ship has probably sailed, and we'll probably not ever see a gay John Shepard. Really I'm just hoping they'll consider it for Sean Jepard or whoever the next big BioWare mascot is.

[Spatchmo]

Could you guys just not respond to RedSh1ft and and JamesMoriarity123? Red started the "Gay Shepard is a bad idea..." thread and there is nothing you can say that will change his mind, and James was his big (and mostly only) supporter in that thread. I can respect their opinions, but neither of them are particularly civil, and if you take their bait, this thread is just going to get locked.



On topic, I find the IGN interview both condescending and hypocritical, regarding gay Shepard. It would be a different case if female Shepard couldn't be a lesbian. I would like Mr. Muzyki to clarify how Shepard isn't as customizable as the Warden in Dragon Age, and also why female Shepard can be gay, but not male Shepard.

[ReDSH1FT]

DoctorOctagonapus wrote...

I agree that it's a little late, this ship has probably sailed, and we'll probably not ever see a gay John Shepard. Really I'm just hoping they'll consider it for Sean Jepard or whoever the next big BioWare mascot is.

That would be totally cool in my book.  I would be completely ok if Sean Shepard has a ****** option.

[FataliTensei]

ReDSH1FT wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Sorry, completely distracted by heroes.

Alright Moriarty let's have a nice civil discussion on a concept of potential middle ground for both sides.
Hendel from one of the novels is a gay biotic marine. If he was included in DLC, Exp., or ME3 then it would not involve any change to any established character. This morning I said I agree with you that changing characters at this stage would be a lousy idea.
Bringing in a new character though, especially one who is an already established part of the universe (and could boost sales of the book by encouraging people to buy that to find out the backstory), is another matter entirely.

Or. What about an Expansion bridging ME2 and ME3 and introducing new characters who can be squad members or contacts in ME3. This would not be a new concept for BioWare as Awakening is bridging DAO and DAO2 and ME:Galaxy introduced Jacob and Miranda.
This Expansion could also function to lay the ground work for a new series of games that follows ME since we all agree that the universe should not die after Shep's story is over.

Also note that this is no way goes against any possible interpretation of Muzyka's statement. Even if you take it as saying no m/m in ME, he clearly states that anything is possible in future games.

If they released a gay character as DLC like Zaeed, and it in NO WAY affected the development and/or outcome of the already established storyline/characters and in ME3 it wasn't present and no reference was made to it if you didn't buy it, then dude, for my money, they could make the ****er tomorrow. Cos I simply wouldn't buy it, and it's no sweat.

As I have previously stated many times, I have nothing against a gay character. One of my favourite fictional characters is Louis from the John Connolly novels. A 6ft tall, sharp dressing bacl assassin, who just happends to be a gay man.

As we're keeping this civil, allow me to try again to represent my position. For me and most ME gamers, Shepherd is something of a gaming icon, enough to rival Gordon Freeman or JC Denton. As Muzyka said, ME is about taking us through Shepherd life, allowing us to tailor parts, but still preserving the central portion of his life. Now if a gay romance had been present since ME1, well there wouldn't be any need for this discussion and I wouldn't oppose it. I mean I played DA through twice and I didn't even REALISE there was a gay option. But the fact is ME isnt DA, Shepherd has a backstory, and an image. Through 2 games he's been entirely hetero, dev's even compared him to the main man, James Tiberius Kirk.

Obviously I understand the desire for a gay man to want to play a gay man in-game, but it's just a little late for all that. I mean the way the thread is written, people say it like it's their right, but as Muzyka says, Shepherd is more defined that any other Bioware PC, he has set attributes. FemShep is included, but thats because there's roughly a 50/50 ratio of men and women in the world, lol. The same cannot be said for Homosexuals.

This.

Now if you people would kindly read that, contemplate it, and stop *****ing, the forums will be a better place.  After you guys stop complaining, it's time to quiet the Tali Cult.

Who are you to decide what makes the forum's better?

[Ninja Mage]

 It's too late Haters, me and Garrus did the nasty, and now he's resting before he gets seconds
 

 

[FataliTensei]

ReDSH1FT wrote...

DoctorOctagonapus wrote...

I agree that it's a little late, this ship has probably sailed, and we'll probably not ever see a gay John Shepard. Really I'm just hoping they'll consider it for Sean Jepard or whoever the next big BioWare mascot is.

That would be totally cool in my book.  I would be completely ok if Sean Shepard has a ****** option.

Now you're just contradicting yourself...

[Arik7]

www.youtube.com/watch

I love that clip.  So cute.

[LoveAsThouWilt]

Ninja Mage wrote...



 It's too late Haters, me and Garrus did the nasty, and now he's resting before he gets seconds
 

 

Ninja NO!!! lol You keep feeding them. Nooo! ACtually seeing Garrus in different gear alone is awkward.

[JamesMoriarty123]

DoctorOctagonapus wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Sorry, completely distracted by heroes.

Alright Moriarty let's have a nice civil discussion on a concept of potential middle ground for both sides.
Hendel from one of the novels is a gay biotic marine. If he was included in DLC, Exp., or ME3 then it would not involve any change to any established character. This morning I said I agree with you that changing characters at this stage would be a lousy idea.
Bringing in a new character though, especially one who is an already established part of the universe (and could boost sales of the book by encouraging people to buy that to find out the backstory), is another matter entirely.

Or. What about an Expansion bridging ME2 and ME3 and introducing new characters who can be squad members or contacts in ME3. This would not be a new concept for BioWare as Awakening is bridging DAO and DAO2 and ME:Galaxy introduced Jacob and Miranda.
This Expansion could also function to lay the ground work for a new series of games that follows ME since we all agree that the universe should not die after Shep's story is over.

Also note that this is no way goes against any possible interpretation of Muzyka's statement. Even if you take it as saying no m/m in ME, he clearly states that anything is possible in future games.

If they released a gay character as DLC like Zaeed, and it in NO WAY affected the development and/or outcome of the already established storyline/characters and in ME3 it wasn't present and no reference was made to it if you didn't buy it, then dude, for my money, they could make the ****er tomorrow. Cos I simply wouldn't buy it, and it's no sweat.

As I have previously stated many times, I have nothing against a gay character. One of my favourite fictional characters is Louis from the John Connolly novels. A 6ft tall, sharp dressing bacl assassin, who just happends to be a gay man.

As we're keeping this civil, allow me to try again to represent my position. For me and most ME gamers, Shepherd is something of a gaming icon, enough to rival Gordon Freeman or JC Denton. As Muzyka said, ME is about taking us through Shepherd life, allowing us to tailor parts, but still preserving the central portion of his life. Now if a gay romance had been present since ME1, well there wouldn't be any need for this discussion and I wouldn't oppose it. I mean I played DA through twice and I didn't even REALISE there was a gay option. But the fact is ME isnt DA, Shepherd has a backstory, and an image. Through 2 games he's been entirely hetero, dev's even compared him to the main man, James Tiberius Kirk.

Obviously I understand the desire for a gay man to want to play a gay man in-game, but it's just a little late for all that. I mean the way the thread is written, people say it like it's their right, but as Muzyka says, Shepherd is more defined that any other Bioware PC, he has set attributes. FemShep is included, but thats because there's roughly a 50/50 ratio of men and women in the world, lol. The same cannot be said for Homosexuals.

I disagree that Shepard is so pre-defined. for one thing, his entire past up to that point is up to the player. Most of his personality is as well. Shepard can a virtuous soldier or a ruthless douchebag. He can be a pacifist, or a war mongerer. A genocidist, or a humanist. When someone brings up Shepard, whoever comes to your mind may be totally different than what comes to mine. The face, gender, strategies, fighting tactics, and attitudes could be completely changed.

His story is more defined than any other Bioware game however. You cannot choose everything about Shepherd.
You can't choose his race, or at this point his sexual orientation.
You can't choose not to be an Alliance soldier, you can't choose not defeat Saren, you can't even choose exactly what the guy says.

The pre-definition is an issue, but it isnt the main one. The lynchpin of the argument is that they had the OPTION to include it, yet they didn't. Twice. That makes him pre-defined in of itself, as clearly they are preserving his sexual orientation by removing the option to be gay. As previously stated, it isn't the same as allowing you to be female. Half the human race is female. A claim the homosexual community cannot make.

[ReDSH1FT]

Spatchmo wrote...

Could you guys just not respond to RedSh1ft and and JamesMoriarity123? Red started the "Gay Shepard is a bad idea..." thread and there is nothing you can say that will change his mind, and James was his big (and mostly only) supporter in that thread. I can respect their opinions, but neither of them are particularly civil, and if you take their bait, this thread is just going to get locked.

On topic, I find the IGN interview both condescending and hypocritical, regarding gay Shepard. It would be a different case if female Shepard couldn't be a lesbian. I would like Mr. Muzyki to clarify how Shepard isn't as customizable as the Warden in Dragon Age, and also why female Shepard can be gay, but not male Shepard.

Condescending?  REALLY?  Wow you people need to grow a pair.  That's the most polite man on the planet.

[FataliTensei]

Spatchmo wrote...

Could you guys just not respond to RedSh1ft and and JamesMoriarity123? Red started the "Gay Shepard is a bad idea..." thread and there is nothing you can say that will change his mind, and James was his big (and mostly only) supporter in that thread. I can respect their opinions, but neither of them are particularly civil, and if you take their bait, this thread is just going to get locked.

On topic, I find the IGN interview both condescending and hypocritical, regarding gay Shepard. It would be a different case if female Shepard couldn't be a lesbian. I would like Mr. Muzyki to clarify how Shepard isn't as customizable as the Warden in Dragon Age, and also why female Shepard can be gay, but not male Shepard.

We've tried

Modifié par FataliTensei, 09 février 2010 - 03:17 .

[ReDSH1FT]

FataliTensei wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

DoctorOctagonapus wrote...

I agree that it's a little late, this ship has probably sailed, and we'll probably not ever see a gay John Shepard. Really I'm just hoping they'll consider it for Sean Jepard or whoever the next big BioWare mascot is.

That would be totally cool in my book.  I would be completely ok if Sean Shepard has a ****** option.

Now you're just contradicting yourself...

Wouldn't expect you to comprehend what I've been saying this whole time.

Modifié par ReDSH1FT, 09 février 2010 - 03:16 .

[DoctorOctagonapus]

ReDSH1FT wrote...

DoctorOctagonapus wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Sorry, completely distracted by heroes.

Alright Moriarty let's have a nice civil discussion on a concept of potential middle ground for both sides.
Hendel from one of the novels is a gay biotic marine. If he was included in DLC, Exp., or ME3 then it would not involve any change to any established character. This morning I said I agree with you that changing characters at this stage would be a lousy idea.
Bringing in a new character though, especially one who is an already established part of the universe (and could boost sales of the book by encouraging people to buy that to find out the backstory), is another matter entirely.

Or. What about an Expansion bridging ME2 and ME3 and introducing new characters who can be squad members or contacts in ME3. This would not be a new concept for BioWare as Awakening is bridging DAO and DAO2 and ME:Galaxy introduced Jacob and Miranda.
This Expansion could also function to lay the ground work for a new series of games that follows ME since we all agree that the universe should not die after Shep's story is over.

Also note that this is no way goes against any possible interpretation of Muzyka's statement. Even if you take it as saying no m/m in ME, he clearly states that anything is possible in future games.

If they released a gay character as DLC like Zaeed, and it in NO WAY affected the development and/or outcome of the already established storyline/characters and in ME3 it wasn't present and no reference was made to it if you didn't buy it, then dude, for my money, they could make the ****er tomorrow. Cos I simply wouldn't buy it, and it's no sweat.

As I have previously stated many times, I have nothing against a gay character. One of my favourite fictional characters is Louis from the John Connolly novels. A 6ft tall, sharp dressing bacl assassin, who just happends to be a gay man.

As we're keeping this civil, allow me to try again to represent my position. For me and most ME gamers, Shepherd is something of a gaming icon, enough to rival Gordon Freeman or JC Denton. As Muzyka said, ME is about taking us through Shepherd life, allowing us to tailor parts, but still preserving the central portion of his life. Now if a gay romance had been present since ME1, well there wouldn't be any need for this discussion and I wouldn't oppose it. I mean I played DA through twice and I didn't even REALISE there was a gay option. But the fact is ME isnt DA, Shepherd has a backstory, and an image. Through 2 games he's been entirely hetero, dev's even compared him to the main man, James Tiberius Kirk.

Obviously I understand the desire for a gay man to want to play a gay man in-game, but it's just a little late for all that. I mean the way the thread is written, people say it like it's their right, but as Muzyka says, Shepherd is more defined that any other Bioware PC, he has set attributes. FemShep is included, but thats because there's roughly a 50/50 ratio of men and women in the world, lol. The same cannot be said for Homosexuals.

I disagree that Shepard is so pre-defined. for one thing, his entire past up to that point is up to the player. Most of his personality is as well. Shepard can a virtuous soldier or a ruthless douchebag. He can be a pacifist, or a war mongerer. A genocidist, or a humanist. When someone brings up Shepard, whoever comes to your mind may be totally different than what comes to mine. The face, gender, strategies, fighting tactics, and attitudes could be completely changed.

Then you disagree with Dr. Muzyka, the guy who ****ing made the character.  I think I'll trust his opinion over yours boy.

Seriously, you just disagreed with the co-president on the character he helped create.  Do you realize how insane that sounds?

Wow. First of all, way to make a flame-filled post out of an other wise calm response to a calm assertion.

Second, Muzyka can say that Shep is pre-defined all he wants. Just like he could say Shepard is a flying monkey who lives in a comically sized hat.  The fact that he said  "Shepard is pre-defined" doesn't change the fact that he so clearly is not. One Shepard could be totally different from another, as could the universe surrounding them. Look at the choices the player can make. He (or she) can decide who lives, who dies, whether an entire species is eliminated, whether humans control the government or are mearly on the same playing field. There are about 3 trillion possible Shepards. Does that sound pre-defined to you?

[LoveAsThouWilt]

The argument isn't ABOUT there actually being a female Shepard the argument that has been brought up numberous times is the fact that female Shepard apparently isn't predefined as she can romance a woman. Male Shepard should be able to do the same, but, it is pointless to reiterate it...

[JamesMoriarty123]

Spatchmo wrote...

Could you guys just not respond to RedSh1ft and and JamesMoriarity123? Red started the "Gay Shepard is a bad idea..." thread and there is nothing you can say that will change his mind, and James was his big (and mostly only) supporter in that thread. I can respect their opinions, but neither of them are particularly civil, and if you take their bait, this thread is just going to get locked.

On topic, I find the IGN interview both condescending and hypocritical, regarding gay Shepard. It would be a different case if female Shepard couldn't be a lesbian. I would like Mr. Muzyki to clarify how Shepard isn't as customizable as the Warden in Dragon Age, and also why female Shepard can be gay, but not male Shepard.

Actually there were a lot of supporters for the other threads. Read my posts, I haven't incited or insulted anyone. Just trying to dismiss our opinions because you can't come up with a counter argument is pretty sad.

[LoveAsThouWilt]

Then make a POINT and be sensible stop falling back on "he's Iconic" "he's predetermined" because it is rubbish that we have already covered as a falsehood.

[FataliTensei]

ReDSH1FT wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

DoctorOctagonapus wrote...

I agree that it's a little late, this ship has probably sailed, and we'll probably not ever see a gay John Shepard. Really I'm just hoping they'll consider it for Sean Jepard or whoever the next big BioWare mascot is.

That would be totally cool in my book.  I would be completely ok if Sean Shepard has a ****** option.

Now you're just contradicting yourself...

Wouldn't expect you to comprehend what I've been saying this whole time.

I'm not sure you understand what you're saying....are you a troll? really, just be honest with us

[ReDSH1FT]

@doctoroctogonopus



Can you choose not to defeat Saren? Can you choose a different starship? How about the collectors, can you choose not to do the suicide mission?



Predefinition. Shepard also has traits that are his own. He was an alliance n7 marine in EVERYONE'S game. He served under Anderson, etc. He's also hetero.