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[Endurance_117]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

ManBearPig91 wrote...

Actually I have, that was talking about Shep being able to romance who he pleases and still be masculine. This though...

You could just ignore it. DAT ASS gets me a bit irritated on how they focus on Miranda's "ASSetts." But I don't go in and start shrieking about how their should be released a biological weapon to kill off all men attracted to her. >_>

She was genetically modified to be perfect including DAT ASS

[FataliTensei]

Arik7 wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...

So what do people want to see, every character as bi? Or just one character homosexual?

One bisexual character of each gender  would already be an improvement from the current situation.    But some people would be frustrated that their favorite character is not romanceable to them.... Oh Alistair :-(

Perhaps some limited customization of your team members should be allowed, including their appearance and their behavior towards you.   In that case, straight guys could have Jacob as their buddy, while others could have him as their LI.  People could also reduce Miranda's forehead if they wanted to..... 

A very good idea

[RyuAzai]

Yea I noticed that. Whenever you talked to Miranda it -started- from there and then went up to her eyes

[FataliTensei]

RyuAzai wrote...

Yea I noticed that. Whenever you talked to Miranda it -started- from there and then went up to her eyes

it slows down around the boob area a bit too >_>

[Jimmy Fury]

Arik7 wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...

So what do people want to see, every character as bi? Or just one character homosexual?

One bisexual character of each gender  would already be an improvement from the current situation.    But some people would be frustrated that their favorite character is not romanceable to them.... Oh Alistair :-(

Perhaps some limited customization of your team members should be allowed, including their appearance and their behavior towards you.   In that case, straight guys could have Jacob as their buddy, while others could have him as their LI.  People could also reduce Miranda's forehead if they wanted to..... 

^^^This.^^^

It wouldn't even have to be added as something you choose from a customization screen.
The way romance options work now you have to steer the conversation there in order to activate it. A better example is Leliana in DAO. If you don't answer a specific question correctly she never opens as a romance option. Ever. Gay or straight. Nothing. She doesn't even flirt with you.

Why not simply apply the same system to everyone? It doesn't make everyone bi, but it makes it so that you get to decide who is and who isn't available to your shep during that playthrough.
It's literally an all-win approach. There is no downside.

Modifié par Jimmy Fury, 03 février 2010 - 04:28 .

[Endurance_117]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...

RyuAzai wrote...

Yea I noticed that. Whenever you talked to Miranda it -started- from there and then went up to her eyes

it slows down around the boob area a bit too >_>

Am the only one who thinks when she leans her boobs sag a little too much?

No?

Yes?

it's perfect

[BrianWilly]

Endurance_117 wrote...

So what do people want to see, every character as bi? Or just one character homosexual?

In the case of ME1, where there were only three potential romances and only one single male romance recipient, I don't think it would feel that out of place if the three of them were bisexual.  In fact, that was how ME1 was originally designed and intended in the first place.

But in the case of ME2 where more than half the squad members were some kind of romance options, I think all of them being bisexual would definitely feel forced, yes.  In that case the Dragon Age approach of two same-sex options, one for either gender, is what I would prefer.

On that note I would add that tthere's basically no way that the ME team didn't seriously consider making Thane and Jack to be the two options in this game; if you go through their romance in this game, you'll notice that there's quite literally no gender-contradictory dialogue whatsoever.  Thane could quite easily be speaking to a male Shepard, and Jack to a female.  Heck, I wouldn't be surprised at all if we eventually find out that Meer and Hale had recorded same-sex romance dialogues for them as well, just like they did for Kaidan and Ashley in the first game.

I think it's the fact that they obviously considered it, and yet backed off at the last minute, is what annoys me personally about the situation.  The pandering of ME1 was bad enough that you could have a lesbian romance but not a gay male romance.  In ME2 they obviously put time and effort into crafting a wide breadth of options with an incredibly eclectic and diverse ensemble, including three interspecies options, and yet not a single homosexual option for either gender.  The omission is absolutely, ridiculously glaring.  It feels so exlusionary as to be borderline embarassing for the devs.

[SorrowAndJoy7]

I seriously doubt they would release a trilogy with the options unlocked. In my mind me3 is the last chance for a male same-sex romance option, if it's not in there it just won't happen in anything beyond fan mods for the mass effect series.

Modifié par SorrowAndJoy7, 03 février 2010 - 04:41 .

[SirGladiator]

The romance dialogues are always mostly or entirely gender-neutral. For those of us who saw the Ashley-FemShep cabin scene (the scene leading up to, and including, the love scene) from ME1 it was completely gender-neutral dialogue. With that in mind, the best thing they could've done in ME2, it seems to me, is use your imported save to determine which LIs you get. For example, If you romanced Kaiden, you get the three male LIs, if you romanced Liara you get the three female LIs. The dialogue is going to pretty much be the same for each character regardless of which Shep romances them, so its just logical to give you the LIs that you ALREADY INDICATED you would want. Obviously those like myself who romanced Liara in game 1 don't want the male LIs, we want the female ones. Those who romanced Kaiden would clearly prefer the male ones. So everybody ends up happy, getting exactly what they wanted. Certainly it would've been a million light years better than what they ended up doing .

[Kozlovskiy]

HAHA That one got started by me. I just got unbanned. Did it really shut down?

[Kozlovskiy]

I started the thread "Gay Shepard?". I am glad to see that people really cared and started a new one.



Thanks guys!

[FataliTensei]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Maybe if we're lucky the devs would consider activating the romances and finishing them up for all three games in a trilogy box set?

That would be nice.

I know...I'm being a stupid optimist but still.

That'd be nice

[FataliTensei]

Kozlovskiy wrote...

I started the thread "Gay Shepard?". I am glad to see that people really cared and started a new one.

Thanks guys!

It was no problem

[Jimmy Fury]

SirGladiator wrote...

The romance dialogues are always mostly or entirely gender-neutral. For those of us who saw the Ashley-FemShep cabin scene (the scene leading up to, and including, the love scene) from ME1 it was completely gender-neutral dialogue. With that in mind, the best thing they could've done in ME2, it seems to me, is use your imported save to determine which LIs you get. For example, If you romanced Kaiden, you get the three male LIs, if you romanced Liara you get the three female LIs. The dialogue is going to pretty much be the same for each character regardless of which Shep romances them, so its just logical to give you the LIs that you ALREADY INDICATED you would want. Obviously those like myself who romanced Liara in game 1 don't want the male LIs, we want the female ones. Those who romanced Kaiden would clearly prefer the male ones. So everybody ends up happy, getting exactly what they wanted. Certainly it would've been a million light years better than what they ended up doing .

mmmm not that it wouldn't be fantastic and utterly logical...
but it would suck for us 360 players who never had a Kaiden option in 1

Edit; Oi wait nevermind I'm an idiot.
ME2 is designed to allow players to pick ME1 choices if they don't have an import. duh.
Plus, no spoilers, there's a certain scene early on that could be used to retroactively state that Shep was in love with Kaiden or Ashley.

I think some of us would be happy with it being played off as the relationship occured outside of the actual scenes of the game... I would at least.

Modifié par Jimmy Fury, 03 février 2010 - 05:31 .

[Mordigan]

BrianWilly wrote...

I don't think it would feel that out of place if the three of them were bisexual.  In fact, that was how ME1 was originally designed and intended in the first place.

Thats not true at all.  Ashley and Kaidan were always intended to be heterosexual.  The presence of romantic dialogue between FemShep and Ashley and DudeShep and Kaidan is because both Meer and Hale voiced each other's dialogues as well as their own.

[Felix Golden]

/me is in before the lock



Also Bioware already stated no, so why keep discussing it?



I wouldn't care either way personally, i would never use the options but i dont see the point of continuing to beat a dead horse lol

[FataliTensei]

Kaidan as an option in ME3 would be awesome, he owes me for saving him XD

Modifié par FataliTensei, 03 février 2010 - 05:32 .

[FataliTensei]

Felix Golden wrote...

/me is in before the lock

Also Bioware already stated no, so why keep discussing it?

I wouldn't care either way personally, i would never use the options but i dont see the point of continuing to beat a dead horse lol

When and at what event/press conference did they state "no" ?

I'd like to see some proof please

Modifié par FataliTensei, 03 février 2010 - 05:35 .