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#1151
Daewan

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[quote]November Cousland wrote...

 [quote]Ryuuichi009 wrote...

A very hot effeminate Dutch male model :wub:

Who would look hotter still making out with another dutch male model.

Yum. [quote]

Can I vote for this to be in ME3? <3



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@Ryuuichi009

That was excactly my thought. My FemShep acts a little bit rough here and there but if it comes to persons like Tali she takes care. She is absolutly able to be that person and if she says that to the FemShep, why not? I thin it fits in a perfect way.

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Once again, please stay on topic about whether you want or do not want homosexuality in Mass Effect. We are trying to keep the thread on topic so it stays open.

It should be common sense for the internet now, but if you see someone posting abuse, you should contact a moderator or use reporting proceedures. You SHOULD NOT engage that person and take the thread off topic. This gives the person posting the abuse attention and makes you (the person engaging them) pat of the problem instead of the solution.

Back on topic now please.



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LeingodX wrote...

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Don't get me started on this. There's no compelling reason (in-game at least) that Tali would care if you're the female gender of a different species.


Well, she does mention once that what moved her was that she felt like a young damsel in distress, and that Shepard was some kind of dashing knight in shining armor. That feels to me mostly like a girl-boy thing.

I'm OK with gay characters and all, but I just can't see Tali as bi or gay.


A human girl-boy thing. Was it specifically his broad shoulders or facial hair that did her in? I suppose. I come back to that the relationship would still be about role's to play in an emotional sense (obviously the protective figure being what Tali is interested in), something a Female Shephard can do (and Tali says as much). 

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SethSteiner wrote...

@Ryuuichi009
That was excactly my thought. My FemShep acts a little bit rough here and there but if it comes to persons like Tali she takes care. She is absolutly able to be that person and if she says that to the FemShep, why not? I thin it fits in a perfect way.


It also sweet. FemShep is Tali's hero everyone has a bit of a crush on their heroes. <3

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Ryuuichi009 wrote...

SethSteiner wrote...

@Ryuuichi009
That was excactly my thought. My FemShep acts a little bit rough here and there but if it comes to persons like Tali she takes care. She is absolutly able to be that person and if she says that to the FemShep, why not? I thin it fits in a perfect way.


It also sweet. FemShep is Tali's hero everyone has a bit of a crush on their heroes. <3


I don't

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Endurance_117 wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

SethSteiner wrote...

@Ryuuichi009
That was excactly my thought. My FemShep acts a little bit rough here and there but if it comes to persons like Tali she takes care. She is absolutly able to be that person and if she says that to the FemShep, why not? I thin it fits in a perfect way.


It also sweet. FemShep is Tali's hero everyone has a bit of a crush on their heroes. <3


I don't


Well you're the exception and not the rule. :P


I still want my Jokermance.

Its too late for M!Shep x Kaiden...unless its the modded version. :crying:

Modifié par Ryuuichi009, 05 février 2010 - 06:47 .


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I don't play as femshep, but if I did, I'd honestly want Jack. I don't think Miranda would feel genuine (as much as I prefer her for my maleshep).

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I'm sorry Ryuuichi. I wasnt trying to offend the ladies. Miranda has a great body..I was just joking

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I'm sorry Ryuuichi. I wasnt trying to offend the ladies. Miranda has a great body..I was just joking


Oh its fine. *huggles*

So F!Shep x Tali. At first I didn't overly like it but now it seems to be growing on me.

Hm...:wizard:

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Ryuuichi009 wrote...

That's funny. Maybe its more of a gender perception? A FemShep could be a knight in shining armor depending on how you play. :whistle:


Maybe you're right. That was just my honest perception as a male/straight.

As I said before, I'm OK with gay characters, but them being effeminate dutch dudes would be just.... disturbing. You don't really need an ULTRA gay character to get interested, do you?

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SethSteiner wrote...

Yes I would love to romance her, she is my favorite character since the first Mass Effect. She is strong and weak at the same time and she shares my interests. But hey, I can fully understand BioWare, that they don`t want to make everyone bi but no one except of Kelly is... cheap.


I feel the same way, it honestly would've been awesome to have the romance manifest itself this time round. The way her character is written and how she interacts with Fem!Shep seems to tick all the right boxes to a degree, and like a few others who've already stated this it really does work on the emotional level. It would've been a very cute coupling to have because I can totally see my own Fem!Shep being that sort of 'protective knight' for her.

As for Kelly, as cute as a button as she is, I too felt it was a bit cheap if not shallow the way things happened with her. See I honestly would've loved and accepted Kelly as an option a lot more if she was fleshed out properly and not made to flirt with whatever moved. If she was given at least a deeper background, enough for Fem!Shep to get to know her as a character and hell maybe even do a personal quest for her like you can with squad mates then, to me, it would be a viable option. But as it is now I can't really be doing with her :?

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LeingodX wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

That's funny. Maybe its more of a gender perception? A FemShep could be a knight in shining armor depending on how you play. :whistle:


Maybe you're right. That was just my honest perception as a male/straight.

As I said before, I'm OK with gay characters, but them being effeminate dutch dudes would be just.... disturbing. You don't really need an ULTRA gay character to get interested, do you?


No.

I actually would have just liked if they had kept the M!Shep x Kaiden in the vanilla game. They had some beautifully awkward gems in those dialogue files: "I'm sick of it too. Maybe we need to take a little initative." "I'll make sure the crew stands by for orders, if you have anything up your sleeve; they'll be ready, what am I saying when don't you that's what I lov- appreciate about you." and then followed by the hilariously awkward. "Hold that thought, they'll be time for us when that is over I promise." 

Honestly they could have not put a single other MxM option in any of the three games except Kaiden and I would have been perfectly fine with it because everyone isn't gay or bisexual and giving an option. (any option) would have been a nice gesture.

Alas. Twas not to be. :crying:

Modifié par Ryuuichi009, 05 février 2010 - 07:17 .


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Femshep and Miranda would be hot. Miranda could be all like..

Miranda- My body is perfect, don't you want a taste of that perfection

FemShep- Well I....

Miranda- Shhh...let our cleavage do the talking

FemShep-My my, you are aggressive

~Miranda and Fem Shep kiss~

Modifié par Ninja Mage, 05 février 2010 - 06:59 .


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yeah..I'm doing damage control lol ANyway, I am mad that Kaiden has been bi all along and they just cut it from the first game

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So, I'm doing a mental rundown in my head of what's at:



and what's needed to have a complete romance with Tali... the groundwork might already be there for it in the game? Just need to slap a few cutscenes together that already exist in the male version (which I imagine is easy enough to change, if they even need it.) It's be awesome! :)



(btw, if anyone can send me a private message on how to locate the raw audio files and listen to them on the PC version of the game, please do... private message please.)

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Straight guy weighing in here since the devs seem to be paying attention to this thread.



I think it is absolutely silly that LGBT can't pursue whatever love interest they wish in the game.



I also can't imagine the giant avalanche of hate and stupidity that would come down on the game if you DID include gay romance options.



Nonetheless, this provides you with a chance to be social innovators and do the right thing JUST BECAUSE it is the right thing to do.



Just think.. you could be the "vanguard of destruction" for homophobia and hate for an entire industry.

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thats the first reaction after hearing the little extra in the end. I mean... really? Just... really? They wanted to do it but.. that just hurts... it really hurts

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ABCoLD wrote...

So, I'm doing a mental rundown in my head of what's at:

and what's needed to have a complete romance with Tali... the groundwork might already be there for it in the game? Just need to slap a few cutscenes together that already exist in the male version (which I imagine is easy enough to change, if they even need it.) It's be awesome! :)

(btw, if anyone can send me a private message on how to locate the raw audio files and listen to them on the PC version of the game, please do... private message please.)


Oh my.  FemShep/Tali FTW!  :happy:  It reminds me of that thread somewhere that quoted the Prima guide singling out Jacob and Miranda as the straight-exclusive ones...Hmm...

About the raw audio: maybe you should try PMing La Sangreal--he's the master at this.  xD

Edit: Linkification, and the suggestion that you reeeeally should post this link on the Tali love threads, if you haven't already.  :innocent:  Win some people over for the cause and all.

Modifié par jselene, 05 février 2010 - 08:19 .


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Kolaris8472

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Female Shephards also have dialog audio for consulting the good Doctor on how to..."proceed" with Tali.

On a much more humorous note, Male Shephards have a line rebuking Mordin for suggesting he was interested in Garrus, simply stating in a very forceful tone, "I AM NOT SCREWING GARRUS".

Modifié par Kolaris8472, 05 février 2010 - 08:18 .


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Orogenic wrote...

Straight guy weighing in here since the devs seem to be paying attention to this thread.

I think it is absolutely silly that LGBT can't pursue whatever love interest they wish in the game.

I also can't imagine the giant avalanche of hate and stupidity that would come down on the game if you DID include gay romance options.

Nonetheless, this provides you with a chance to be social innovators and do the right thing JUST BECAUSE it is the right thing to do.

Just think.. you could be the "vanguard of destruction" for homophobia and hate for an entire industry.



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SethSteiner wrote...

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thats the first reaction after hearing the little extra in the end. I mean... really? Just... really? They wanted to do it but.. that just hurts... it really hurts


i feel you, it does hurt.. realy wanted my femshep to be with Tali :crying:

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I just listened to the sound files on youtube...wow...just...to have it there and unobtainable?

Just...that's quite upsetting :crying: I share the feelings of hurt there :(

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Garrus Fan here, chiming in.

Re: Same-Sex Dialogue
This has come up time and time again as an issue, with the proper implimentation of same-sex romance (not sex, romance).  However, I should point out that pretty much ALL the romantic dialogue in ME2, and even in ME1, is surprisingly gender-neutral.  While some of the romances might look awkward using a different model, the actual dialogue itself is completely neutral, and could easily be geared towards Shepards of either gender.  I'm not entirely sure how the argument of "resources and time" is an issue, considering that a change of character model + gender-voiced lines = huge expenditure of money.  I mean, look at Garrus's romantic dialogue.  Or Tali's remark about linking suits (said even to a FemShep), or Jack admitting to having girlfriends.

Re: Choice
I think that the fear for most of having the choice, is the fear of selecting the choice you don't want.  But honestly, how many folks were taken aback or nearly spit your drinks at the almost bulldozer-esque pickup lines either Sheploo or FemShep delivers to hit on any of the romantic options?  I mean, Shepard seems to have all the subtley of a tank plowing through a china shop when it comes to flirting.  But I guess it's a step-up from the 'so-subtle-its-invisible' romances of ME1 that seemed to sneak up on you even if you were just trying to be friendly.    I mean honestly, the flirtation options are clearly visible, so if the gender check was lacking...is there really a problem?  As long as you don't skip through dialogue and speed click through the dialog wheel, there's no problem.

Re: Who Goes First
Honestly, in some cases I think it would've been nicer if your squadmates approached you, much like DA:O, but only if you showed interest initially (again, like DA:O).  I think it would add a level of depth to know that it's not just Shepard who desperately wants to cling to them, but they wouldn't mind, or that they want you to cling back.  But in some cases the fact it's Shepard (male or female) coming onto them, rather than the other way around makes the scene charming (Garrus for example)

My 2 cents.  All for same-sex romances!
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I have the same feelings of hurt as well. It's obviously there!!!!! but we can't have it, so sad. Can we have an optional patch so people who want same sex romance with tali/garrus can open up the romance option?