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[Orogenic]

sw33ts wrote...

sos986 wrote...

i hate to point it out, but statistically if you have a 100 crew members 2 of them would be gay; there isnt 100 crew members on the normandy theres ten, when i get a choice of 100 diffrent people two of them can be gay.

The statistic I normally hear is 1 in 10.  :happy:

This what the best studies to date indicate. 2-3% openly gay or bisexual, 7-8% expressing same sex attraction.

Percentages tend to be higher in urban centers.

[Orogenic]

Endurance_117 wrote...

Orogenic wrote...

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...

Orogenic wrote...

That's not being insecure

Why the hell would a gay guy hitting on you make you "weirded out" 

....

The same reason getting hit on by guys significantly older  than me is. Just preferences. Frankly I feel weirded out when black guys hit on me too. (I know...racist against my own race that's not good.) Though I try not to scream and throw things anymore. Unless they really keep doing it and pissing me off. <_<

Not sure what you are getting at here- there's a difference between expressing interest and harassment.

So if a 70 yr old guy hit on you you wouldn't be weirded out?

Just preferences

Actually I think I have been hit on by a 70 yr old guy (remember I'm a straight guy) and no it didn't weird me out. The guy was perfectly nice, told him I was flattered but that I was 100% heterosexual.  This was actually at a bar in Georgetown where I was waiting for my fiance and her friends.. we all ended up having a few drinks and talking as I recall.

[Orogenic]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Regardless as long as the romances are optional and made abudnently clear what you're doing no one will have any means for complaints right? (And as long as they stopped romantic dialogue if you told them no thanks after them hitting on you.)

Well, that's pretty much what happens with the straight LI in mass effect, no reason the same sex interactions would be any different, yes?

[Akrim_Drak]

Sigh... went through and listened to all that removed Kaidan dialogue again. Makes me sad... It is soooo believable.

[sos986]

all right ive had enough, kaiden isnt gay, stop hitting on him.

[Arik7]

sos986 wrote...

all right ive had enough, kaiden isnt gay, stop hitting on him.

Kaidan is fictional... originally planned as a romanceable character for Shepards of either gender...  It's a pity the audio files were not utilized....

[jamnkick]

I know I'm not putting anything productive in the topic, but does anyone remember what did Lightavice_av (or something. I can barely remember the name but I can remember the user id picture) said in page um, 32? Or somewhere around there? Something about the pros and cons of same-sex relationships in-game?

[Teito Kurain]

Reason to put same sex romances (mainly m/m. considering f/f is still sort of possible)
back into the game:

1. ME1 relationships get messed up. (I was with Kaidan but the game altered it
to Liara)

2. Why remove a possibility that was there in the first game. (And didn’t cause
problems)

3. Gay people are mainly accepted (except for the people that are actually
scared for it (Even though this mainly seems to be true for m/m, f/f is more
accepted) or religion reasons).

4. People that want to avoid it still can by making the right choices. (Or make
obvious cancel choices)

I said mainly m/m in the start for the simple fact f/f is still sort of
possible with Liara. I know IT isn’t really any gender. But by looks and
personality IT is easily assumable that they would be referred to as female.


Most points I have seen in this threat are things because it doesn’t fit
his/her Shepard. But they seem to forget the fact you are playing in your OWN
universe with choices YOU make.

You should basically see everyone’s story as an altered universe. That’s
why there are so many choices which all have impact on the story (now and in
later games).

Looking at the design of the game there is also no logical reason for removing
this possibility for the simple fact that you can choose to be gay in the first
game. And then by importing your shepard to ME2 he all of a sudden loses his sexuality
preference which YOU choose YOUR shepard to have.

Kaidan not being gay is also something that is true in SOME of the universes. But
there never have been any facts about him that he was only straight or only
gay. His preference got altered by YOUR actions the same goes for Ashley if you
choose her.

And for the fact if 1/*** people are gay so it isn’t true that two people on
the ship are gay. The possibility is smaller not impossible. And as stated
earlier someone’s preference can be altered.

And please for people who respond. Try to stay adult and build your statements
with actual opinions. Instead of just saying I don’t want it in just because.

Modifié par Teito Kurain, 06 février 2010 - 04:38 .

[Ninja Mage]

Well my male shepard was at the part were you have to rescue Mordin from the clinic, and Garrus said, "Aw, Can't you take me anywhere nice, a turian going into a turian disease zone.'' that was pretty hot. I was actually shocked he said that to my male shep, it was really sexy

Modifié par Ninja Mage, 06 février 2010 - 05:40 .

[Jimmy Fury]

The thing about statistics is that they're all well and good on paper but actual situations involve more factors than just percentages.

Take a major chain bookstore in a college town for example... since I can speak from personal experience on those lol.

Christmas of 07 we had, at our highest employment numbers in 5 years, 37 employees. Of those 37 employees 11 of us were gay, lesbian, or bisexual. That's roughly 30% (I think? I'm terrible with math). Around the same my friend got a job at a little chain coffee shop in town. Of their 5 employees 3 of them were gay (my friend and the manager being the only 2 straight guys there).

According to some of the extremely conservative statistics it was against the odds for either of our stores to have even 1 gay employee.



So yeah. my 2 cents on statistics.

[Ninja Mage]

Zevran was one hot piece o ass

[jamnkick]

 I don't know how to say this without sounding blunt, but apparently Thane was supposed to be for both genders. And before you ask, I was listening to the sound files for Thane's dialogue scenes and it has Shepard's voice files for rejecting and telling Thane he wants to be with him in english. 

[Jimmy Fury]

Captain Cornhole wrote...
It's not Renegade or Paragon Shepard, it's Gay Shepard. Why not hertosexual Shepard.
At anyrate.
Being straight i would not appreciate a gay romance option. And i would be if it would be included. And please don't call me a bigot or someone who hate homos. I actually know a few.

Ranting aside people are talking about deleted audio files, can some one elaborate.

1: The thread is called gay shepard because... we're discussing a desire for gay shepard... there's already renegade and paragon shepards. I'm not quite following this train of thought honestly but that's because I was doing math for 4 bloody hours and my brain is mush right now.

2: Not trying to lash out or anything but out of pure curiosity, why would the presence of a gay romance option bother you? How exactly would it alter your gameplay experience? (seriousquestion is serious too. I honestly want someone to explain this to me)

3. The deleted audio files were the opposite sex romance dialogues as recorded by the same sex voice actors. Which is to say Mark Meer (male Shep's voice) recorded all of the KaidenLove audio used by female shepard and Jennifer Hale (fem shep) recorded all of the AshleyLove dialogue used by male shepard.
Oi that could have been said in much simpler terms i'm sure.. brain mush.
Anyway, their existence causes endless curiosity because the only logical reason for them to ever be coded into the game would be if Kaiden and Ashley were both originally intended to be romance options for both sexes.

[YakoHako]

Captain Cornhole wrote...

I find it laughable that sexual preference, skin color and intelligence is often the first thing people identify a person with.

Not identifying a person through their actions. (Aiming my argument towards the title of thread)

It's not Renegade or Paragon Shepard, it's Gay Shepard. Why not hertosexual Shepard.


At anyrate.
Being straight i would not appreciate a gay romance option. And i would be if it would be included. And please don't call me a bigot or someone who hate homos. I actually know a few.

Ranting aside people are talking about deleted audio files, can some one elaborate.

And this coming from "Captain Cornhole"?  You're probably just being sarcastic/ironic or whatever the hell the word is I'm trying to think of, but whatever.  Anyway, why would you be sad just knowing someone could be gay?  Do you go through your entire life terrified that someone you know might potentially not be straight?  And are you also saying that gay gamers should be sad that Shepard is straight? (And it sounds like we are since we're arguing for a gay Shepard option).

I've decided I don't really care if he can be gay or not and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't add it just for the hell of it.  I'll just stick to being a female Shepard so I can romance Garrus.

[Eternal Dust]

Captain Cornhole wrote...
 And please don't call me a bigot or someone who hate homos. I actually know a few.

That justification holds no weight at all.

[Emerald_May]

[Had to make a new account to link gamertag for DLC...]

They're either saving the homosexual content as DLC or by some seriously *'d up boardroom politics. Of course, I'd pay for it... but what would they call it? "Gay Pack"? Who knows...

Why would somebody be upset at the inclusion of a possible homosexual romance? It was in the first game, did you hate it because of that? If so, that's a pretty crazy thing to hold on to... Some of us are gay or curious as to what would happen if they did take that course. You don't personally have to do it whatsoever. Also, my FemShep and some of the things with Liara that happened in ME2 lead me to believe that it wasn't really politics so much... so what was it?

One thing I'd like to see in the next Mass Effect is for our relationship(s) from ME1/ME2 to carry into ME3 with the characters being much closer. It would be nice if you had to date them to keep them happy, have sex often if you choose to, exchange e-mail, and public displays of affection like holding hands(!!!) 

Ahh, fish tanks and community complaining about gayness. It all makes sense now!

Modifié par Emerald_May, 06 février 2010 - 08:59 .