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Garrus is fictional, ok?... The issue is that it doesn't make sense to restrict Garrus to females Shepards, all other things considered.

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Nothing in Garrus' romance is about sex, NOWHERE. Take out the sex part and it could very well work with either sex. It's a relationship of admiration, not a physical attraction. He's not attracted to humans AT ALL. He clearly states it ._. Just saying... not all "Romances" have to be about the physical aspect, especially when you bring aliens into it. Look at Tali... Clearly not physical.

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Ninja Mage wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...



Ninja Mage wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...
Would the same level of discomfort exist if the actual terms "gay" "lesbian" or "homosexual" were never actually used? If there was no specific mention of anyones sexuality and instead it was just a matter of the characters falling in love with Shep because of their bond with him/her?

That's how I would expect it to happen in the 22nd century, especially considering all the other non-reproductive relationships with aliens.    Why does Shepard have to be a female to romance Garrus?  They are not expecting kids, are they?  The heterosexual restriction is completely out of context there.


Maybe because Garrus doesn't like men?!



Garrus does like men. Please don't start this **** again. Garrus is unique to each individual play experience


There is no proof he does and I have proof he likes women in his own species and Female Shepard


Have you even seen a female turian?? No. Garrus flirted with my male shepard numerous times in the game,it just never went past that. I have a hunch Garrus likes Shepard, whether they be male or female. Why is Garrus being gay so awful to you?


But has Garrus had sex with one?? Yes. Garrus never flirted with a male shepard, what are you spouting? Nonsense?


Lol Be careful, your bias is showing. Garrus never had sex with anyone in my game. And whether he had sex with some invisible female turian is besides the point. Garrus is attracted to my male shepard, and it's obvious Bioware could add a male shep/Garrus romance.


Besides the point? LOL. It's his story. Sorry buddy, You may like to think Garrus is attracted to your Male Shepard. Cool story broseph 

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Akrim_Drak wrote...

Nothing in Garrus' romance is about sex, NOWHERE. Take out the sex part and it could very well work with either sex. It's a relationship of admiration, not a physical attraction. He's not attracted to humans AT ALL. He clearly states it ._. Just saying... not all "Romances" have to be about the physical aspect, especially when you bring aliens into it. Look at Tali... Clearly not physical.


Exactly my point. Though I like to fantasize about Garrus having a physical encounter with my male Shep. But
obviously, Garrus has a deep romantic connection with Shepard, whether they be male or female. You can make love to someone without having sex.

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Homosexuality is frowned upon in most military organizations





Translation: homosexuality is frowned by the US military. Most Western military organizations couldn't care less about their soldiers' orientation, as long as they don't break the regulations. There is a homosexual biotic ex-marine in Ascension.



2) Why can't I quote with a single line of text when it is simple and strait to the point.





Having walls of text posted over and over again is incredibly pointless when you can just quote the key point which you're addressing. Your'e not the only one doing that, but your posts tend to be the shortest in comparison to the amount of quotes you have.

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Arik7 wrote...

Garrus is fictional, ok?... The issue is that it doesn't make sense to restrict Garrus to females Shepards, all other things considered.


*Biowares Fiction, and doesn't make sense? Bioware can do what ever they want. The wrote Garrus to have sex with a female Turrian so he did.

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Endurance_117 wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...



Ninja Mage wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...
Would the same level of discomfort exist if the actual terms "gay" "lesbian" or "homosexual" were never actually used? If there was no specific mention of anyones sexuality and instead it was just a matter of the characters falling in love with Shep because of their bond with him/her?

That's how I would expect it to happen in the 22nd century, especially considering all the other non-reproductive relationships with aliens.    Why does Shepard have to be a female to romance Garrus?  They are not expecting kids, are they?  The heterosexual restriction is completely out of context there.


Maybe because Garrus doesn't like men?!



Garrus does like men. Please don't start this **** again. Garrus is unique to each individual play experience


There is no proof he does and I have proof he likes women in his own species and Female Shepard


Have you even seen a female turian?? No. Garrus flirted with my male shepard numerous times in the game,it just never went past that. I have a hunch Garrus likes Shepard, whether they be male or female. Why is Garrus being gay so awful to you?


But has Garrus had sex with one?? Yes. Garrus never flirted with a male shepard, what are you spouting? Nonsense?


Lol Be careful, your bias is showing. Garrus never had sex with anyone in my game. And whether he had sex with some invisible female turian is besides the point. Garrus is attracted to my male shepard, and it's obvious Bioware could add a male shep/Garrus romance.


Besides the point? LOL. It's his story. Sorry buddy, You may like to think Garrus is attracted to your Male Shepard. Cool story broseph 



Female turians don't even exist in the game dude. Garrus is an alien anyway, it's not really ''gay'' for him to like my Male Shepard. It's just an attraction. Garrus can be whoever the player wants him to be, his backstory isnt that complex

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Garrus very obviously flirts with male Shepards.

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Lightice_av wrote...

Homosexuality is frowned upon in most military organizations

2) Why can't I quote with a single line of text when it is simple and strait to the point.



Having walls of text posted over and over again is incredibly pointless when you can just quote the key point which you're addressing. Your'e not the only one doing that, but your posts tend to be the shortest in comparison to the amount of quotes you have.


It's you're not your'e. My post lead strait to the point. Walls of text are what you are doing, not me.

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Ninja Mage wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...



Ninja Mage wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...

Arik7 wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...
Would the same level of discomfort exist if the actual terms "gay" "lesbian" or "homosexual" were never actually used? If there was no specific mention of anyones sexuality and instead it was just a matter of the characters falling in love with Shep because of their bond with him/her?

That's how I would expect it to happen in the 22nd century, especially considering all the other non-reproductive relationships with aliens.    Why does Shepard have to be a female to romance Garrus?  They are not expecting kids, are they?  The heterosexual restriction is completely out of context there.


Maybe because Garrus doesn't like men?!



Garrus does like men. Please don't start this **** again. Garrus is unique to each individual play experience


There is no proof he does and I have proof he likes women in his own species and Female Shepard


Have you even seen a female turian?? No. Garrus flirted with my male shepard numerous times in the game,it just never went past that. I have a hunch Garrus likes Shepard, whether they be male or female. Why is Garrus being gay so awful to you?


But has Garrus had sex with one?? Yes. Garrus never flirted with a male shepard, what are you spouting? Nonsense?


Lol Be careful, your bias is showing. Garrus never had sex with anyone in my game. And whether he had sex with some invisible female turian is besides the point. Garrus is attracted to my male shepard, and it's obvious Bioware could add a male shep/Garrus romance.


Besides the point? LOL. It's his story. Sorry buddy, You may like to think Garrus is attracted to your Male Shepard. Cool story broseph 



Female turians don't even exist in the game dude. Garrus is an alien anyway, it's not really ''gay'' for him to like my Male Shepard. It's just an attraction. Garrus can be whoever the player wants him to be, his backstory isnt that complex


So it's not "Lesbian" to for FemShep to Like Liara. Why, you just derailed half this thread :wizard:

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It's you're not your'e


Look at my post again and see the wonders of good eyesight. Note that I have not edited the post in any way, as you can also clearly seee.

Walls of text are what you are doing, not me.



Again, reading the post might be a good idea while replying. You post walls of quotes in grand majority of your posts, when you only need to quote one key point that you're addressing. Quoting ten posts when all you're personally posting is a single line is incredibly pointless, as I have told you.

Why, you just derailed half this thread 



Hardly. Look the romance up some time from YouTube. It doesn't contain any sex, or even sexuality. Just Platonic attraction. Garrus is not into humans that way, regardless of gender. Hence there's little reason why he couldn't be non-sexually attracted to male Shepard, as well.

Modifié par Lightice_av, 06 février 2010 - 06:13 .


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Endurance_117 wrote...
So it's not "Lesbian" to for FemShep to Like Liara. Why, you just derailed half this thread :wizard:


FemShep and Liara have sex however... BIG difference. You don't have sex with Garrus.

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I love how they said they don't do walls of text, then immediately under it posted a wall of text with 11 quotes.

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Akrim_Drak wrote...

FemShep and Liara have sex however... BIG difference. You don't have sex with Garrus.


Yes. In addition to the fact that turians are not humanoid. Asari are.

Modifié par diskoh, 06 février 2010 - 06:15 .


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Lightice_av wrote...

It's you're not your'e


Look at my post again and see the wonders of good eyesight. Note that I have not edited the post in any way, as you can also clearly seee.


To bad if you edit your post fast enough it doesn't say you edited your post. Sorry buddy.

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Endurance_117 wrote...

To bad if you edit your post fast enough it doesn't say you edited your post. Sorry buddy.


This should be "too," not "to."

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Akrim_Drak wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...
So it's not "Lesbian" to for FemShep to Like Liara. Why, you just derailed half this thread :wizard:


FemShep and Liara have sex however... BIG difference. You don't have sex with Garrus.

ManSheps forehead is just so radically different  from that of a female Shepard.  It's completely  incompatible with Garrus's forehead!  Posted Image

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To bad if you edit your post fast enough it doesn't say you edited your post. Sorry buddy.


Ofcourse it does. It always shows "edited X minutes go". I wouldn't bother editing my post over a minor grammatical error, anyway. Look at your own quote if you don't believe me. But you're just cheerfully derailing the thread once again. Shut up or return to the topic at your earliest convenience.

Modifié par Lightice_av, 06 février 2010 - 06:18 .


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Okay, grammar has nothing to do with Shepard...



I need to go finish my game I have now with the MShep/Kaidan thing going. I didn't know you get extra dialogue in ME2 if you stay faithful. (Won't be hard for me since I'm obviously not going for the ladies)

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Lightice_av wrote...

To bad if you edit your post fast enough it doesn't say you edited your post. Sorry buddy.



Ofcourse it does. It always shows "edited X minutes go". I wouldn't bother editing my post over a minor grammatical error, anyway. But you're just cheerfully derailing the thread once again. Shut up or return to the topic at your earliest convenience.


No it doesn't, If you edit your post immediately it doesn't, good game. Telling me to shut up? You are implying you are not derailing the thread as well. I was actually trying to talk about something on topic. :mellow:

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Endurance_117 wrote...
So it's not "Lesbian" to for FemShep to Like Liara. Why, you just derailed half this thread :wizard:


Even though Liara is an alien, she has mor efeminine characteristics, so in essence it is a lesbian relationship.
Garrus is more of an exotic type alien, so his masculine features aren't as easily defined.

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sooo...garrus can't be with maleshep



but tali can be with femshep



*confused*

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Ninja Mage wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...
So it's not "Lesbian" to for FemShep to Like Liara. Why, you just derailed half this thread :wizard:


Even though Liara is an alien, she has mor efeminine characteristics, so in essence it is a lesbian relationship.
Garrus is more of an exotic type alien, so his masculine features aren't as easily defined.


Both are still aliens, thanks for proving my point. Xenophilia either way

Modifié par Endurance_117, 06 février 2010 - 06:23 .


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Traumacrazy wrote...

sooo...garrus can't be with maleshep

but tali can be with femshep

*confused*


It was planned anyway, for Tali. I don't think anybody has gone and datamined Garrus or Thane's dialogue yet to see if they have the same-sex lines.

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Endurance_117 wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

Endurance_117 wrote...
So it's not "Lesbian" to for FemShep to Like Liara. Why, you just derailed half this thread :wizard:


Even though Liara is an alien, she has mor efeminine characteristics, so in essence it is a lesbian relationship.
Garrus is more of an exotic type alien, so his masculine features aren't as easily defined.


Both are still aliens, thanks for proving my point. Xenophilia either way



Yes, this goes without saying because neither Garrus or Tali are human. But that point is moot because they added a lesbian relationship with Secretary Kelly, and didn't add a gay relationship in any form. The alien romances are possible because they are based on mutual romantic attraction, not physical attraction.