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[Garuda One]

RudaOne wrote...

I was impressed by the inclusion of a M/M relationship in Dragon Age. I strongly support it in Mass Effect.

Also, as someone mentioned, it would be cool to be able to develop "standard" friendships, make the romance option pink etc...

-Notices Ruda's name...- An imposter is among us... 

[TaliZorah]

IccaRa wrote...

TaliZorah wrote...

Weeeeeeeee, IccaRa.

 Heeeeeey! *fist bump*

Never thought it would feel that good to see a familiar face on this rushed SocialNetwork-...thing.

IccaRa wrote...

It's funny how things actually worked out. I mean our "TALI / THANE / GARRUS LOVE!" campaign. <3

Haha, too true! All that drama for so many months and look how it turned out.  Well... maybe not as well as we'd like as far as Thane love goes (grumble grumble Kerpal's Syndrome grumble) but all in all? It's great!

While I don't have personal investment in m/m I support it for all who want to get a slice of the space beefcake. Can't help that some of these men are just that tantalizing.

Yeah, that Kerpal's Syndrome thing was kinda disappointing... I hope there will be a chance to cure Thane in ME 3, unless it's not again like "Ooooh, another couple of years passed..".
Naaa, seriously, Thane was great. They have ( ) to give us players the possibility to save him!

For me as a Tali-lover, it was also not exactly what I wanted (*cough* Tali F/F *cough*), but given the fact that we CAN actually romance her now, I'm still happy though.

And I have also no intention to play as a male gay Shepard, but since we're all in the same boat (and I'm absolutely pro for the freedom of choice!) it's just fair if everybody can enjoy the game on an equal level.

[ReDSH1FT]

95 pages of nonsense. There won't be a ****** romance in Mass Effect, has your community realized this yet or are you still stuck in a fantasy realm?



LOL @ the amount of fantasy you guys constantly live in. BUT I RP MY SHEP AS GAY.



To live in a fantasy realm in a fantasy realm, that's just sad.



What is not happening in your life for this to happen?

[FataliTensei]

TaliZorah wrote...

IccaRa wrote...

TaliZorah wrote...

Weeeeeeeee, IccaRa.

 Heeeeeey! *fist bump*

Never thought it would feel that good to see a familiar face on this rushed SocialNetwork-...thing.

IccaRa wrote...

It's funny how things actually worked out. I mean our "TALI / THANE / GARRUS LOVE!" campaign. <3

Haha, too true! All that drama for so many months and look how it turned out.  Well... maybe not as well as we'd like as far as Thane love goes (grumble grumble Kerpal's Syndrome grumble) but all in all? It's great!

While I don't have personal investment in m/m I support it for all who want to get a slice of the space beefcake. Can't help that some of these men are just that tantalizing.

Yeah, that Kerpal's Syndrome thing was kinda disappointing... I hope there will be a chance to cure Thane in ME 3, unless it's not again like "Ooooh, another couple of years passed..".
Naaa, seriously, Thane was great. They have ( ) to give us players the possibility to save him!

For me as a Tali-lover, it was also not exactly what I wanted (*cough* Tali F/F *cough*), but given the fact that we CAN actually romance her now, I'm still happy though.

And I have also no intention to play as a male gay Shepard, but since we're all in the same boat (and I'm absolutely pro for the freedom of choice!) it's just fair if everybody can enjoy the game on an equal level.

Lol true, i have no intention to play as female lesbian shepard, but i should still be included.

[FataliTensei]

ReDSH1FT wrote...

95 pages of nonsense. There won't be a ****** romance in Mass Effect, has your community realized this yet or are you still stuck in a fantasy realm?

LOL @ the amount of fantasy you guys constantly live in. BUT I RP MY SHEP AS GAY.

To live in a fantasy realm in a fantasy realm, that's just sad.

What is not happening in your life for this to happen?

What;s not happening in your life for you to post on a thread just to sling insults, not only is it immature, it just proves you're the one stuck in fantasy, because obviously you care about shepard NOT being gay enough to seek out and post in this thread.

[ReDSH1FT]

FataliTensei wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

95 pages of nonsense. There won't be a ****** romance in Mass Effect, has your community realized this yet or are you still stuck in a fantasy realm?

LOL @ the amount of fantasy you guys constantly live in. BUT I RP MY SHEP AS GAY.

To live in a fantasy realm in a fantasy realm, that's just sad.

What is not happening in your life for this to happen?

What;s not happening in your life for you to post on a thread just to sling insults, not only is it immature, it just proves you're the one stuck in fantasy, because obviously you care about shepard NOT being gay enough to seek out and post in this thread.

Yes yes, great counter argument.

"no you"

Once again you guys can't step up to the plate with a reasonable argument.

Not surprised, considering the other threads really.

There won't be a ****** Shepard, and there shouldn't be one.  End of story.

It's not gonna happen.

[Akrim_Drak]

Stoooop responding to him, he's one of those that has nothing better to do that incite anger and try and get people angry. Not worth anybodies time.



I'm curious to all you Thane fans(I'm indifferent to him really) what would you think of a new drell that was a romance option for both male/female (incase Thane well... dies)

[Nautica773]

ReDSH1FT wrote...
Yes yes, great counter argument.

"no you"

Once again you guys can't step up to the plate with a reasonable argument.

Not surprised, considering the other threads really.

There won't be a ****** Shepard, and there shouldn't be one.  End of story.

It's not gonna happen.

Why not? There's a lesbian Shepard. 

[LoveAsThouWilt]

ReDSH1FT wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

95 pages of nonsense. There won't be a ****** romance in Mass Effect, has your community realized this yet or are you still stuck in a fantasy realm?

LOL @ the amount of fantasy you guys constantly live in. BUT I RP MY SHEP AS GAY.

To live in a fantasy realm in a fantasy realm, that's just sad.

What is not happening in your life for this to happen?

What;s not happening in your life for you to post on a thread just to sling insults, not only is it immature, it just proves you're the one stuck in fantasy, because obviously you care about shepard NOT being gay enough to seek out and post in this thread.

Yes yes, great counter argument.

"no you"

Once again you guys can't step up to the plate with a reasonable argument.

Not surprised, considering the other threads really.

There won't be a ****** Shepard, and there shouldn't be one.  End of story.

It's not gonna happen.

We've had a reasonable arguement since the beginning, and Bioware actually has helped make it even better with their sidesteping of the question posted by IGN about gay romances in Mass Effect.

1. Female Shepard CAN romance a woman (Liara and if that doesn't count for you KELLY in ME2)

2. Male Shepard can NOT romance a man THOUGH it was planned TWICE for him to be able to have romanced Kaidan:
   Once ine ME1 with the actualy romance scene, video and original voice acting. The excuse for excluding was "time contraints"
   Secondly in ME2 on Horizon with Kaidan giving MShepard a hug and stating he loved him, linking to ME2.

Conclusion: it would be NO issue to put this into the game through an update because it is already MADe and if you do not want to see it you do not have to choose it. Plain and simple.

[Nautica773]

LoveAsThouWilt wrote...
Conclusion: it would be NO issue to put this into the game through an update because it is already MADe and if you do not want to see it you do not have to choose it. Plain and simple.

This is basically BioWare's stance. I'm rather apt to believe that it's due to time constraints that those romances don't make it in. 

[FataliTensei]

ReDSH1FT wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

95 pages of nonsense. There won't be a ****** romance in Mass Effect, has your community realized this yet or are you still stuck in a fantasy realm?

LOL @ the amount of fantasy you guys constantly live in. BUT I RP MY SHEP AS GAY.

To live in a fantasy realm in a fantasy realm, that's just sad.

What is not happening in your life for this to happen?

What;s not happening in your life for you to post on a thread just to sling insults, not only is it immature, it just proves you're the one stuck in fantasy, because obviously you care about shepard NOT being gay enough to seek out and post in this thread.

Yes yes, great counter argument.

"no you"

Once again you guys can't step up to the plate with a reasonable argument.

Not surprised, considering the other threads really.

There won't be a ****** Shepard, and there shouldn't be one.  End of story.

It's not gonna happen.

of course I'm gonna use he simple cop-out response, I don't have time to make up a good response for you, and I don't reall want to waste the energy either

[Jimmy Fury]

Another thing about DLC (sorry to harp, as stated this is the top of my wishlist so it gets stuck in my brain lol)
It would also help avoid the whole "media firestorm" issue that occasionally gets brought up.
Mind you, I suspect there wouldn't be a firestorm any way it was done because it looks like the media is busy raining brimstone on the presidency buuuut... just in case BioWare worries about it, here's why I think DLC would avoid it.

The consumer market for video games has 2 parts.
1: The Fanbase which is made up of the loyalists, power players, achievement zombies, etc.
2: General Public which is made up of renters, parents of kids who like games, people who play out of boredom, and people who just play-to-beat.
(The last batch being those people who skip over all the side missions just so they can brag that they beat a 90hour game in one night.)
The major difference between these two groups is that the first is more likely to buy up DLC for a game they love. DLC doesn't change an entire game, it just adds to it. The people who don't care enough to replay aren't going to spend money on DLC. Group one has also already passed the age-appropriate hurdle. Anyone who didn't think their kids should play the base game, can't complain about DLC because they can't play it.

Group 1 is also more likely to do lots of research. This is where group 2 gets the firestorms. they don't research, they get surprised by something they don't like.
In that respect I can kind of see why they get upset. Games aren't cheap and once they're open you can't get your money back. So yeah, i'd be p*ssed too If I bought a game that looked good then found out it had content I found morally reprehensible. If I bought a game and found out it had a gay-bashing mini game, I would want my money back.
DLC also doesn't deal with stores. It's not like your kids can pick it up off the shelf and throw a fit until you cave and buy it for them.
So again, the angry parents aren't involved in DLC. They didn't get the main game because they already found it objectionable, so they can't play the DLC.

THIS is how the full frontal male nudity in GTAIV:TLAD went under the radar. Parents couldn't complain because they didn't let their kids get GTAIV to begin with. Anybody morally outraged over a completely non-sexual peen was already morally outraged over hookers.

So by going the DLC route BioWare can avoid backlash, show its fanbase love, and make a profit.


Edit: *ahem* Hey look something that isn't a flame, troll, or off topic! Let's talk about this!
(Translation: It's a Trap! Don't feed FailedTroll.)

Modifié par Jimmy Fury, 08 février 2010 - 11:34 .

[SnowHeart1]

LoveAsThouWilt wrote...

We've had a reasonable arguement since the beginning, and Bioware actually has helped make it even better with their sidesteping of the question posted by IGN about gay romances in Mass Effect.

*snip*

That interview kind of ticked me off, actually.  He didn't go so far as to say "No, maleShep cannot romance another guy," but he also said, "This is Shepard's story and it's different than DAO," which somewhat implied, "MaleShep is not gay, period..." while completely ignoring the fact that FemShep can be.  Ticked...me...off.  Then I took a breath and got over it, but... meh. 

[FataliTensei]

Akrim_Drak wrote...

Stoooop responding to him, he's one of those that has nothing better to do that incite anger and try and get people angry. Not worth anybodies time.

I'm curious to all you Thane fans(I'm indifferent to him really) what would you think of a new drell that was a romance option for both male/female (incase Thane well... dies)

That'd be pretty cool. Drell are good allies from what I've read about their abilities. I persnallyhope we can save Thane, but if we can't I wouldn't mind having another drell, maybe even Kolyat, if he grows up

[ReDSH1FT]

LoveAsThouWilt wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

95 pages of nonsense. There won't be a ****** romance in Mass Effect, has your community realized this yet or are you still stuck in a fantasy realm?

LOL @ the amount of fantasy you guys constantly live in. BUT I RP MY SHEP AS GAY.

To live in a fantasy realm in a fantasy realm, that's just sad.

What is not happening in your life for this to happen?

What;s not happening in your life for you to post on a thread just to sling insults, not only is it immature, it just proves you're the one stuck in fantasy, because obviously you care about shepard NOT being gay enough to seek out and post in this thread.

Yes yes, great counter argument.

"no you"

Once again you guys can't step up to the plate with a reasonable argument.

Not surprised, considering the other threads really.

There won't be a ****** Shepard, and there shouldn't be one.  End of story.

It's not gonna happen.

We've had a reasonable arguement since the beginning, and Bioware actually has helped make it even better with their sidesteping of the question posted by IGN about gay romances in Mass Effect.

1. Female Shepard CAN romance a woman (Liara and if that doesn't count for you KELLY in ME2)

2. Male Shepard can NOT romance a man THOUGH it was planned TWICE for him to be able to have romanced Kaidan:
   Once ine ME1 with the actualy romance scene, video and original voice acting. The excuse for excluding was "time contraints"
   Secondly in ME2 on Horizon with Kaidan giving MShepard a hug and stating he loved him, linking to ME2.

Conclusion: it would be NO issue to put this into the game through an update because it is already MADe and if you do not want to see it you do not have to choose it. Plain and simple.

Are you insane?  Dr Muzyka practically confirmed that there won't be a ****** Shep.  He said the reason that it was included in DA:O is because that's your character from the ground up.  Shepard is a predefined character, you make some choices but you don't change who he is.  3rd person narrative, fool.  That's almost verbatim.  He sidestepped it so it wouldn't ****** off the homos still in denial, despite the overwhelming odds.

QUICK PUT ON YOUR BLINDERS, THERE'S EVIDENCE HERE.

[LoveAsThouWilt]

Nautica773 wrote...

LoveAsThouWilt wrote...
Conclusion: it would be NO issue to put this into the game through an update because it is already MADe and if you do not want to see it you do not have to choose it. Plain and simple.

This is basically BioWare's stance. I'm rather apt to believe that it's due to time constraints that those romances don't make it in. 

The Irony and Contradiction here though is WHY plan for a M/M Shepard romance with Kaidan follow up in ME2 if they didn't even implement it in ME1. They planned the latter AFTER the fact of not implementing the first. THAT is what makes no sense.

Either state something on updating the game to include the romance option INTENDED or BW needs to state that they are dodging the question because I can't think of an excuse or explanation that justifies it especially when the female Shepard gets the option of a same-sex romance.

[ReDSH1FT]

SnowHeart1 wrote...

LoveAsThouWilt wrote...

We've had a reasonable arguement since the beginning, and Bioware actually has helped make it even better with their sidesteping of the question posted by IGN about gay romances in Mass Effect.

*snip*

That interview kind of ticked me off, actually.  He didn't go so far as to say "No, maleShep cannot romance another guy," but he also said, "This is Shepard's story and it's different than DAO," which somewhat implied, "MaleShep is not gay, period..." while completely ignoring the fact that FemShep can be.  Ticked...me...off.  Then I took a breath and got over it, but... meh. 

Exactly.  This guy saw the facts in the article.

Please pour your insight onto the rest of these people.

He pretty much confirmed it's not gonna happen.

[Nautica773]

ReDSH1FT wrote...
Are you insane?  Dr Muzyka practically confirmed that there won't be a ****** Shep.  He said the reason that it was included in DA:O is because that's your character from the ground up.  Shepard is a predefined character, you make some choices but you don't change who he is.  3rd person narrative, fool.  That's almost verbatim.  He sidestepped it so it wouldn't ****** off the homos still in denial, despite the overwhelming odds.

QUICK PUT ON YOUR BLINDERS, THERE'S EVIDENCE HERE.

It's confirmed! Female Shepard dropped from ME3!

LoveAsThouWilt wrote...
The Irony and Contradiction here though is WHY plan for a M/M Shepard romance with Kaidan follow up in ME2 if they didn't even implement it in ME1. They planned the latter AFTER the fact of not implementing the first. THAT is what makes no sense.

Either state something on updating the game to include the romance option INTENDED or BW needs to state that they are dodging the question because I can't think of an excuse or explanation that justifies it especially when the female Shepard gets the option of a same-sex romance.

If I had to guess? Either the initial ME1 cut came at the very end of development after they started work on ME2, or they decided not to ultimately include the ME2 scene because of the content cut from ME1. 

But, really, we'll never know because BioWare almost never talks about cut content. 

Modifié par Nautica773, 08 février 2010 - 11:36 .

[tzeraph1]

ReDSH1FT wrote...

There won't be a ****** Shepard, and there shouldn't be one.  End of story.

It's not gonna happen.

And why is that?

[IccaRa]

Akrim_Drak wrote...

I'm curious to all you Thane fans(I'm indifferent to him really) what would you think of a new drell that was a romance option for both male/female

I wouldn't mind at all. I love drell. Hallucinogenic love? I'm in!

That said... I would not want to give up Thane for said drell. But if I could keep him then I say why not? Stripey love is for everyone.

[tzeraph1]

Nautica773 wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...
Are you insane?  Dr Muzyka practically confirmed that there won't be a ****** Shep.  He said the reason that it was included in DA:O is because that's your character from the ground up.  Shepard is a predefined character, you make some choices but you don't change who he is.  3rd person narrative, fool.  That's almost verbatim.  He sidestepped it so it wouldn't ****** off the homos still in denial, despite the overwhelming odds.

QUICK PUT ON YOUR BLINDERS, THERE'S EVIDENCE HERE.

It's confirmed! Female Shepard dropped from ME3!

LoveAsThouWilt wrote...
The Irony and Contradiction here though is WHY plan for a M/M Shepard romance with Kaidan follow up in ME2 if they didn't even implement it in ME1. They planned the latter AFTER the fact of not implementing the first. THAT is what makes no sense.

Either state something on updating the game to include the romance option INTENDED or BW needs to state that they are dodging the question because I can't think of an excuse or explanation that justifies it especially when the female Shepard gets the option of a same-sex romance.

If I had to guess? Either the initial ME1 cut came at the very end of development after they started work on ME2, or they decided not to ultimately include the ME2 scene because of the content cut from ME1. 

But, really, we'll never know because BioWare almost never talks about cut content. 

HEHE

[ReDSH1FT]

tzeraph1 wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

There won't be a ****** Shepard, and there shouldn't be one.  End of story.

It's not gonna happen.

And why is that?

Because the Co-President of BioWare, when asked if there would be ****** romance like in DA:O, said it's not the same type of game.  DA:O is totally your character, Shepard is a 3rd person narrative, you control a predefined character.  Shepard is an iconic character.  Read the interview.

Also, I'm not talking at all about femShep so using that as an example to counter me is fruitless.  This is about iconic Shepard.  You know, the one on the box art and in the commercial.  Male.

He's a hetero space playa, not a ******.  It's been cleared up by the company.

[BrianWilly]

Meh, I'd rather just be able to **** Thane. :innocent: His entire species was created to be an attractive male option, I don't know why they'd have to specifically create another drell just for the gays when there Thane is, just fine as he is.

[FataliTensei]

hey guys from now on just ignore ReDSH1FT, all he's doing is helping our thread stay on top whenever he posts here



so if he wants to keep posting, let him

[tzeraph1]

And here's the real question: Would it be ok if fewshepard was gay, but not ok if maleshepard was?