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[Zulu_DFA]

Grunt or Wrex?



Zaeed!

[TexasToast712]

Both.

Wrex: Grunt
Grunt: Shepard
Shepard: Grunt
Wrex: Shepard
Grunt: Wrex
Shepard: *Facepalm*

Modifié par TexasToast712, 19 décembre 2010 - 02:53 .

[Quaay]

I love Wrex and missed him as my squadmate. Grunt is ok but I think I tend to dislike him just because I compare him to Wrex all the time and well, he isn't Wrex. It isn't Grunt's fault at all...I just want Wrex back and it makes me sad that everyone is so complacent about accepting that he isn't on the crew because he has an important role on Tuchanka. Eff that. Let Wreav sit on top of that pile of rubble and let Wrex back on the Normandy where he belongs.

[Busomjack]

Why chose just one when you could have the ultimate Krogan tag team!

[Hathur]

I preferred Wrex far more both from combat / gameplay viewpoint and.. especially.. a character viewpoint.



In ME1, Wrex was deadly powerful - nearly unkillable, even on insanity (Barrier + invulnerability.. plus fast regen? Woa).



Story wise, Wrex was a thinking-man's krogan. He was intelligent, insightful. Grunt is the Hulk... anything and everything he says is overly cliche... it all pertains to smashing, cutting, killing, stomping, etc.



Whereas Wrex is versatile... he's a strategist and tactician... you can have interesting discussions with him that don't boil down to smashing stuff.



Realistically, I give Wrex as a squadmate in ME3 less than 1% probability... he'll make an appearance, for sure (for those who kept him alive in ME1) most likely even have a significant role in the story / end of ME3... but as a good ol squaddie? I highly doubt it

[TexasToast712]

Hathur wrote...

I preferred Wrex far more both from combat / gameplay viewpoint and.. especially.. a character viewpoint.

In ME1, Wrex was deadly powerful - nearly unkillable, even on insanity (Barrier + invulnerability.. plus fast regen? Woa).

Story wise, Wrex was a thinking-man's krogan. He was intelligent, insightful. Grunt is the Hulk... anything and everything he says is overly cliche... it all pertains to smashing, cutting, killing, stomping, etc.

Whereas Wrex is versatile... he's a strategist and tactician... you can have interesting discussions with him that don't boil down to smashing stuff.

Realistically, I give Wrex as a squadmate in ME3 less than 1% probability... he'll make an appearance, for sure (for those who kept him alive in ME1) most likely even have a significant role in the story / end of ME3... but as a good ol squaddie? I highly doubt it

Awwwww comeon.....Grunt is just a kid after all. Let him do his little Hulk Smashes.

[Alienmorph]

Wrex is simply the only one krogan with enought brain and nuts to save his race. I like him a lot (remet him was one of my non-romance favourite dialogues) but I prefer to have him in the position of krogan leader... just think how awesome will be having the 'old Wrex at the lead of krogans in ME3 final battle! Grunt is the only krogan bad**s enough to replace him btw, I like him too. But not as much as Wrex.

[-Skorpious-]

Grunt. Wrex has moved on to better things than being assigned the role of 'walking weapon' to Shepard.

[The Spamming Troll]

Quaay wrote...

I love Wrex and missed him as my squadmate. Grunt is ok but I think I tend to dislike him just because I compare him to Wrex all the time and well, he isn't Wrex. It isn't Grunt's fault at all...I just want Wrex back and it makes me sad that everyone is so complacent about accepting that he isn't on the crew because he has an important role on Tuchanka. Eff that. Let Wreav sit on top of that pile of rubble and let Wrex back on the Normandy where he belongs.

i agree. as much cred as i give to grunt for being a balls out pure bred krogan baby, theres not a better krogan out there, then wrex. compareing the two, theres nothing ive seen grunt do, that wrex couldnt do with only 2 testicles. wrex is the king of the krogans, and when time comes for then end of the entire galaxy by extinction, kings dont sit on throwns, they lay waste to everything in their way and save the world with their best human buddy and hot asari and then once they are victoriouse hell walk off into the sunset set only saying one word....."shepard."

[Psychotic Deformity]

<= Wrex obviously lol



But honestly I like both of them. It felt more rewarding to gain Wrex's trust because he already was somebody of importance. With Grunt, he is bound to become someone of great importance, and you are there to guide him, he is a kind of Wrex from the past.



The only issue I have with Grunt is that he is only a soldier, I NEVER use soldiers. For all the playthroughs I did, I never chose to be a soldier. I want Grunt to develop the same powers as the battlemasters, then I would like him just as much, but use him in combat too. Honestly, in insanity, Grunt was not that useful.

[Selenora]

Wrex

[TexasToast712]

Psychotic Deformity wrote...



But honestly I like both of them. It felt more rewarding to gain Wrex's trust because he already was somebody of importance. With Grunt, he is bound to become someone of great importance, and you are there to guide him, he is a kind of Wrex from the past.

The only issue I have with Grunt is that he is only a soldier, I NEVER use soldiers. For all the playthroughs I did, I never chose to be a soldier. I want Grunt to develop the same powers as the battlemasters, then I would like him just as much, but use him in combat too. Honestly, in insanity, Grunt was not that useful.

He is just a baby, Who knows? Maybe he will develop biotic abilities like Wrex? All the best Krogan have them and Grunt is supposed to be the Ultimate Krogan, He can already get shot up without shields and keep on trucking, imagine him with a biotic barrier!

[Rizwane]

Wrex!

Prefered him a lot more then Grunt, he was way too boring imo. Though it would be cool to have them both there.

Modifié par Rizwane, 19 décembre 2010 - 04:46 .

[Elite Midget]

Wrex is cooler but neither will ever return as a full Squaddie.

[Psychotic Deformity]

After taking Wrex away from us it would be a weird choice to do the same with Grunt. Everybody would say "deja vu".



Honestly, I want a Krogan in my team and Grunt will become the best, so Grunt stays. And dammit this is Shep's baby Krogan, he stays with Shep, period. lol.



@TexasToast: I always imagined that one day Grunt would develop biotic abilities for the reason you mentioned. But i'm trying not to think too much about it, because if that does not happen, I will be sad :'(

[thachugabug]

Crud, just send Wrex and Grunt at the reaper fleets with geth plasma shotguns, it would be a short battle.

[shumworld]

I love Wrex (he's mah boy) but his role in ME2 is an acceptable reason why he won't come back as Squady. So Grunt is an acceptable substitute.

[Malanek]

I found Grunts history (including the lack of it), much more interesting. Wrex was just a steriotypical tough guy Krogan who turned into a leader offscreen. IMO there can be a lot more character development in Grunt in which we can hopefully learn what Okeers real purpose in him was. Just what was imprinted, for us to find out later, while he was growing in the tank?

[expanding panic]

Malanek999 wrote...

I found Grunts history (including the lack of it), much more interesting. Wrex was just a steriotypical tough guy Krogan who turned into a leader offscreen. IMO there can be a lot more character development in Grunt in which we can hopefully learn what Okeers real purpose in him was. Just what was imprinted, for us to find out later, while he was growing in the tank?

You say Wrex is steriotypical but I have to disagree. Wrex si a though guy yes, but he doesn't want to fight. He never did he wanted to unite the Krogans but all of them only wanted to fight and not unite. So Wrex became a merc. 
I think grunt is a more steriotypicaly  Krogan all he wants to do is fight. 

With all that said I think Grunt will be in ME3 as long as he didn't die. I think more of the squadmates will be in ME3 because that was the point of ME2. Unless they died of course.

[lovgreno]

How could someone that don't fight in the frontline ever be accepted as a king among krogan? Wrex wound't be a good leader for krogans if he was on relatively safe Tuchanka instead of facing the worst enemy the galaxy has to offer at Shepards side. Sure he may be old for a krogan but Wrex is the kind of guy that is always young enough to fight. Besides a true krogan (especialy a krogan king) don't sit at home waiting to fade away from old age, he will die fighting the biggest and baddest.

The main difference between Grunt and Wrex as i see it is that both want to fight, but Wrex would prefer to do so for a good reason: the survival of the krogan. If there is no win for the krogans in general he is happy to settle for fighting for cash. Grunt on the other hand just want to fight. This makes Wrex more interesting to me but I like them them both and see no good reason I shouldn't get both in ME3.

Also, imagine DAO style squad banter between Wrex and Grunt, that could be some comedy and meme gold right there.

Modifié par lovgreno, 19 décembre 2010 - 07:52 .

[Malanek]

expanding panic wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

I found Grunts history (including the lack of it), much more interesting. Wrex was just a steriotypical tough guy Krogan who turned into a leader offscreen. IMO there can be a lot more character development in Grunt in which we can hopefully learn what Okeers real purpose in him was. Just what was imprinted, for us to find out later, while he was growing in the tank?

You say Wrex is steriotypical but I have to disagree. Wrex si a though guy yes, but he doesn't want to fight. He never did he wanted to unite the Krogans but all of them only wanted to fight and not unite. So Wrex became a merc. 
I think grunt is a more steriotypicaly  Krogan all he wants to do is fight. 

With all that said I think Grunt will be in ME3 as long as he didn't die. I think more of the squadmates will be in ME3 because that was the point of ME2. Unless they died of course.

When did Wrex not want to fight? He did become a leader (although we missed that part) but he was still volatile retaining the typical Krogan tendancies. I found conversations with him in ME1 somewhat grating. So although Wrex may have been remarkable for a Krogan, from our point of view, his standout out qualities are still his stubborness and aggresiveness.

As I said before, with Grunt I suspect there is lot more that we don't realise yet thanks to Okeer. He is more humerous and there is much more room for character development.

[TexasToast712]

Elite Midget wrote...

Wrex is cooler but neither will ever return as a full Squaddie.

Says who?

[earthbornFemShep]

I'll take both, but considering the importance of what Wrex is doing... I am fine with just getting Grunt and letting Wrex be a supporting ally.