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[Infernolord13]

I would like to preface this post with a statement saying I enjoyed the game despite it missing some of the more RPG esque inventory elements but I have to wonder why it is physically impossible to get the entire game?

What I mean is why did they make it so that you could not get all of the armor and weapons developed for the game IN THE ACTUAL GAME. I have no doubt EA was behind it but with all of the different pre order offers and promotions there is no actual way to get all of the weapons and armor, which is utter crap. I think that if Bioware had been able to keep it all in the game then a lot of peoples issues with the lack of inventory options would have been lessened.
 
Think, instead of having 2 pieces of armor in the game you would get 5...WTF is that all about. Over half of the armor inventory in the game is removed...for random promotional crap(don't brink up N7 armor types because they took 3 of those out for the Dr. Pepper crap too). That is my definition of selling out. Next time around I think maybe Bioware should not listen quite so strongly to EA's sellout division and actually make it possible to get the whole game without jumping through hoops and still not being able to get it all. That is by far the worst thing about this game, the lack of a real inventory selection both for the squads armor and for Shepards', which they effectively broke after the game was finished. 

Just throwing that idea out there...Agree or Disagree that is your right.

[kcp12]

Most of the armor is cosmetic so it doesn't matter.

[xSHAD0WENx]

i would agree. the lack of armor is throwing me off alittle.

[Inarai]

So, not having extra content, which is by definition not required in order to have the whole game, is required to have the whole game?



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Read that a couple of times if you don't see the issue with your logic.

[TildeMerand]

=\\ I'm really pissed off at EA. -.-

[Eternal Toaster]

I was definitely expecting a few more armor options for each slot, and at least 3 types of each weapon class (SMGs and Heavy Pistols were left out, despite being the ones most classes have access to).

[OasisForever1991]

Agree.

[Infernolord13]

Inarai wrote...

So, not having extra content, which is by definition not required in order to have the whole game, is required to have the whole game?

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Read that a couple of times if you don't see the issue with your logic.

If it was developed MONTHS BEFORE THE GAME WAS RELEASED then it is by definition not extra content, it should be in-game content but it was appropriated for less than pure motives.

[Veex]

I think that some more diversity in the piece meal armor set up would be welcomed. I'd also like to see that same approach applied to weapons.

[Inarai]

Infernolord13 wrote...

Inarai wrote...

So, not having extra content, which is by definition not required in order to have the whole game, is required to have the whole game?

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Read that a couple of times if you don't see the issue with your logic.

If it was developed MONTHS BEFORE THE GAME WAS RELEASED then it is by definition not extra content, it should be in-game content but it was appropriated for less than pure motives.

If and only if it was designed as base content.  Otherwise, it was budgeted, designed, and intended as promo content, and your notion of what should be in there is little more than self-entitled ranting without actual substance.

Just because content is made beforehand doesn't imply some obligation to make it base content.

[beermilk]

Because EA and Bioware creates games for profit and will squeeze as much USD as they can from the victim I mean capitalist consumer. Surprised?

[gr00grams]

I totally agree.

Completely, totally agree.



Like these Dr. Pepper code things, I really want those items.

They should have, and were in from the get go, but now I have absolutely no way of obtaining them (legally or otherwise; I'm in Canada).



It's complete shat.

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

they are adding more armor

just look at the armor page

http://masseffect.bi.../arsenal/armor/

notice the classified stuff

Modifié par Harbinger of your Destiny, 02 février 2010 - 05:24 .

[Infernolord13]

Inarai wrote...

Infernolord13 wrote...


If it was developed MONTHS BEFORE THE GAME WAS RELEASED then it is by definition not extra content, it should be in-game content but it was appropriated for less than pure motives.

If and only if it was designed as base content.  Otherwise, it was budgeted, designed, and intended as promo content, and your notion of what should be in there is little more than self-entitled ranting without actual substance.

Just because content is made beforehand doesn't imply some obligation to make it base content.

Should is an opinion based word, forums like these are often based off of opinions sooooooo...obviously you disagree with my opinions which are shared by others. No reason to try and start something with phrases like "Self-entitled ranting"

beermilk wrote...

Because EA and Bioware creates games for profit and will squeeze as much USD as they can from the victim I mean capitalist consumer. Surprised?

Less surprised and more dissapointed in Bioware for being dragged down.

Modifié par Infernolord13, 02 février 2010 - 05:26 .

[DPR Raptor]

Okay, I understand your issue with the DLC options, which frustrated a lot of people. Really, though, I think that it was a good marketing strategy. Bonus content raked in a lot of extra money because it is, after all, extra content.

[Inarai]

Infernolord13 wrote...

Inarai wrote...

Infernolord13 wrote...

Inarai wrote...

So, not having extra content, which is by definition not required in order to have the whole game, is required to have the whole game?

...

Read that a couple of times if you don't see the issue with your logic.

If it was developed MONTHS BEFORE THE GAME WAS RELEASED then it is by definition not extra content, it should be in-game content but it was appropriated for less than pure motives.

If and only if it was designed as base content.  Otherwise, it was budgeted, designed, and intended as promo content, and your notion of what should be in there is little more than self-entitled ranting without actual substance.

Just because content is made beforehand doesn't imply some obligation to make it base content.

Should is an opinion based word, forums like these are often based off of opinions sooooooo...obviously you disagree with my opinions which are shared by others. No reason to try and start something with phrases like "Self-entitled ranting"

Sorry - that was a characterization of a rather annoying trend that's been on the rise lately.  See:  the L4D2 "boycott"

Still, it's not a stretch to ask you to justify your opinion.  If you choose to express it you must be prepared for it to be challenged.

Just saying it's your opinion is not an argument, doesn't convince anyone, and has no meaning.

Modifié par Inarai, 02 février 2010 - 05:28 .

[LumpOfCole]

With Dragon Age, I say you were missing out if you didn't have the free DLC.



I can't say the same thing for Mass Effect 2. You guys without the DLC aren't really missing out, except maybe Zaeed's mission is pretty nifty (though I'm not too partial to the character - feels tacked on).

[Inarai]

LumpOfCole wrote...

With Dragon Age, I say you were missing out if you didn't have the free DLC.

I can't say the same thing for Mass Effect 2. You guys without the DLC aren't really missing out, except maybe Zaeed's mission is pretty nifty (though I'm not too partial to the character - feels tacked on).

Although there IS a remaining peice we have yet to see.

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

LumpOfCole wrote...

With Dragon Age, I say you were missing out if you didn't have the free DLC.

I can't say the same thing for Mass Effect 2. You guys without the DLC aren't really missing out, except maybe Zaeed's mission is pretty nifty (though I'm not too partial to the character - feels tacked on).

idk i wuv my blackstorm

[Infernolord13]

LumpOfCole wrote...

With Dragon Age, I say you were missing out if you didn't have the free DLC.

I can't say the same thing for Mass Effect 2. You guys without the DLC aren't really missing out, except maybe Zaeed's mission is pretty nifty (though I'm not too partial to the character - feels tacked on).

It is more the idea of taking so much stuff out and making it impossible to get all in one place without buying the game twice and getting the collectors edition(NOTE you still wouldn't have all of the stuff). It also wouldn't be as bad if there were more armors and weapons in the whole game but with such a limited number every missing one is a bigger blow.

Modifié par Infernolord13, 02 février 2010 - 05:35 .

[Inarai]

Infernolord13 wrote...

LumpOfCole wrote...

With Dragon Age, I say you were missing out if you didn't have the free DLC.

I can't say the same thing for Mass Effect 2. You guys without the DLC aren't really missing out, except maybe Zaeed's mission is pretty nifty (though I'm not too partial to the character - feels tacked on).

It is more the idea of taking so much stuff out and making it impossible to get all in one place without buying the game twice and getting the collectors edition(NOTE you still wouldn't have all of the stuff).

"Taken out" would imply it was meant as base content in the first place.  I don't see anything to base that call upon.

[gr00grams]

Okay, I understand your issue with the DLC options, which frustrated a lot of people. Really, though, I think that it was a good marketing strategy. Bonus content raked in a lot of extra money because it is, after all, extra content.

This is the issue exactly.

However, what is here is they have actually limited the base game for it.



There is like 3 or 4 options for each item. That's BS.

If I had someway to access the promo Dr. Pepper things etc, then it might start to feel like it was actually complete.

[Infernolord13]

Inarai wrote...

Infernolord13 wrote...

LumpOfCole wrote...

With Dragon Age, I say you were missing out if you didn't have the free DLC.

I can't say the same thing for Mass Effect 2. You guys without the DLC aren't really missing out, except maybe Zaeed's mission is pretty nifty (though I'm not too partial to the character - feels tacked on).

It is more the idea of taking so much stuff out and making it impossible to get all in one place without buying the game twice and getting the collectors edition(NOTE you still wouldn't have all of the stuff).

"Taken out" would imply it was meant as base content in the first place.  I don't see anything to base that call upon.

If the game was still months from being done and they decided to create content that wasn't meant to be in the game back then rather than give customers the best experience they could then it makes Bioware look worse. My interpretation of them having to take stuff out for EA promotions makes bioware look less like the bad guy and more like they had good intentions that were twisted. Which do you prefer?

[vhatever]

My shepard ialways end up using he exact same armor setup they had leaving omega after the first mission there. Pretty sad. Same thing with heavy pistols. Never see another one after the first mission. Both fairly disheartening.

[AntiChri5]

i dont care if they have a different department dedicated to making things for promos/dlc EVERYTHING made before the game is put onto the disc itself should be a part of the game available for all customers no matter where they bought the game, how many times they bought the game, where they live or what they like to drink.



I have no problem payig for additional content made after the game (it doesnt grow on trees) but making things and saying they should only ever be special additional items only 20% of paying customers will ever have just because they made them special just for that is absurd.