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[Infernolord13]

vhatever wrote...

My shepard ialways end up using he exact same armor setup they had leaving omega after the first mission there. Pretty sad. Same thing with heavy pistols. Never see another one after the first mission. Both fairly disheartening.

Exactly, the issue of making so many armor suits and weapons promotional just makes the lack of all that many inventory options seem worse. I think that this problem could've had a some of those problems allayed if these inventory items were in the full game.

[Bigeyez]

Does the content have any effect on the story? No.
Is it required to beat the game? No.
Is it the best or better then everything else you find in game? No.
Is it there for mainly cosmetic appeal and cool factor? Yes.

Then it's extra content and who cares where or how it's given away/sold/etc.

Edit: I guess people who are OCD about these types of things would care, but meh thats a personal problem.

Modifié par Bigeyez, 02 février 2010 - 05:49 .

[Infernolord13]

Bigeyez wrote...

Does the content have any effect on the story? No. Do side quests?
Is it required to beat the game? No. Is 3/4ths of the galaxy map?
Is it the best or better then everything else you find in game? No.Blackstorm is pretty nice
Is it there for mainly cosmetic appeal and cool factor? Yes. Yes

Then it's extra content and who cares where or how it's given away/sold/etc.

Does the lack of the content limit the number of options for the play to a great extent? Yes(50% of the potential assault rifles and 80% of the armors aren't in the game)

Modifié par Infernolord13, 02 février 2010 - 05:52 .

[Murmillos]

I don't know about you, but i'm having no issues with my FREE content so far.

[gr00grams]

There wouldn't be people ranting endlessly here if it wasn't an issue.



Case in point.

[Infernolord13]

Murmillos wrote...

I don't know about you, but i'm having no issues with my FREE content so far.

You paid $60 or so for it. Others paid $60 for less.

[AntiChri5]

gr00grams wrote...

There wouldn't be people ranting endlessly here if it wasn't an issue.

Case in point.

Thats not true. Even if the ratio of "additional" content to base content was fine there would still be people complaining about it.

[Bigeyez]

Infernolord13 wrote...

Bigeyez wrote...

Does the content have any effect on the story? No. Do side quests?
Is it required to beat the game? No. Is 3/4ths of the galaxy map?
Is it the best or better then everything else you find in game? No.Blackstorm is pretty nice
Is it there for mainly cosmetic appeal and cool factor? Yes. Yes

Then it's extra content and who cares where or how it's given away/sold/etc.

Does the lack of the content limit the number of options for the play to a great extent? Yes(50% of the potential assault rifles and 80% of the armors aren't in the game)

80% of the time you can get percentages to say anything you want them to.

It's extra content that gives you no real advantage and isn't required to complete the game. Extra content is extra content, is extra content.

If the main game had 100 guns to choose from people would still be complaining about not getting the extra content.

[Bigeyez]

Infernolord13 wrote...

Murmillos wrote...

I don't know about you, but i'm having no issues with my FREE content so far.

You paid $60 or so for it. Others paid $60 for less.

Shame on them for not pre-ordering and meeting the requirements for getting that content. It's not like it was some surprise. You knew months ahead of time you would get stuff from pre-ordering.

[gr00grams]

But it doesn't.
These things were designed to be in from the start, and subsequently taken out to be promo/dlc.

I think we are all agreed that the customization options are lackluster to say the least, and these are the areas the 'content' went to.

NOTE* I am not wanting the pre order/collector stuff here.
I'm talking things like the Dr. Pepper codes.

Modifié par gr00grams, 02 février 2010 - 05:57 .

[AntiChri5]

Bigeyez wrote...

Infernolord13 wrote...

Bigeyez wrote...

Does the content have any effect on the story? No. Do side quests?
Is it required to beat the game? No. Is 3/4ths of the galaxy map?
Is it the best or better then everything else you find in game? No.Blackstorm is pretty nice
Is it there for mainly cosmetic appeal and cool factor? Yes. Yes

Then it's extra content and who cares where or how it's given away/sold/etc.

Does the lack of the content limit the number of options for the play to a great extent? Yes(50% of the potential assault rifles and 80% of the armors aren't in the game)

80% of the time you can get percentages to say anything you want them to.

It's extra content that gives you no real advantage and isn't required to complete the game. Extra content is extra content, is extra content.

If the main game had 100 guns to choose from people would still be complaining about not getting the extra content.

The raion of "extra" content to normal content is absurd.

How many Sniper rifles are there in the game?
How many assault rifles?
How many heavy weapons are there?
How many suits of armour are there?

[Infernolord13]

Bigeyez wrote...

Infernolord13 wrote...

Murmillos wrote...

I don't know about you, but i'm having no issues with my FREE content so far.

You paid $60 or so for it. Others paid $60 for less.

Shame on them for not pre-ordering and meeting the requirements for getting that content. It's not like it was some surprise. You knew months ahead of time you would get stuff from pre-ordering.

The closest gamestop is 45 miles away, and even if you did pre-order you still don't get much of the content.

[Bigeyez]

gr00grams wrote...

But it doesn't.
These things were designed to be in from the start, and subsequently taken out to be promo/dlc.

I think we are all agreed that the customization options are lackluster to say the least, and these are the areas the 'content' went to.

Nowadays a many companies start planning for, if not creating DLC before a game is released. Ignoring the fact that you have no idea when they started creating this DLC, the weapons and armor were ALWAYS intended to be free DLC. They did not "take them out of the main game" like you are implying.

The build them specifically to fit the role of pre-order and collectors edition goodies.

[Bigeyez]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Bigeyez wrote...

Infernolord13 wrote...

Bigeyez wrote...

Does the content have any effect on the story? No. Do side quests?
Is it required to beat the game? No. Is 3/4ths of the galaxy map?
Is it the best or better then everything else you find in game? No.Blackstorm is pretty nice
Is it there for mainly cosmetic appeal and cool factor? Yes. Yes

Then it's extra content and who cares where or how it's given away/sold/etc.

Does the lack of the content limit the number of options for the play to a great extent? Yes(50% of the potential assault rifles and 80% of the armors aren't in the game)

80% of the time you can get percentages to say anything you want them to.

It's extra content that gives you no real advantage and isn't required to complete the game. Extra content is extra content, is extra content.

If the main game had 100 guns to choose from people would still be complaining about not getting the extra content.

The raion of "extra" content to normal content is absurd.

How many Sniper rifles are there in the game?
How many assault rifles?
How many heavy weapons are there?
How many suits of armour are there?

Again, even if there were 100 different weapons and armor in the game people would still complain and you know it.

[Bigeyez]

Infernolord13 wrote...

Bigeyez wrote...

Infernolord13 wrote...

Murmillos wrote...

I don't know about you, but i'm having no issues with my FREE content so far.

You paid $60 or so for it. Others paid $60 for less.

Shame on them for not pre-ordering and meeting the requirements for getting that content. It's not like it was some surprise. You knew months ahead of time you would get stuff from pre-ordering.

The closest gamestop is 45 miles away, and even if you did pre-order you still don't get much of the content.

Then you miss out on one suit of armor and a heavy weapon. Sorry, but you aren't entitled to anything. You paid 60 bucks for what was in the box and got everything that was in the box. If a couple of extra pieces of armor and 3 weapons are a deal breaker then maybe you should have never bought the game in the first place. you must have known you weren't going to be able to get the extra DLC considering you couldn't pre-order.

[VasQuipQuip]

Inarai wrote...

So, not having extra content, which is by definition not required in order to have the whole game, is required to have the whole game?

...

Read that a couple of times if you don't see the issue with your logic.

Coments like these are compleatly worthless. Just go away.

[gr00grams]

I understand completely.

I just feel that it is very negatively impacting my view of them.



The base armor options suck.

What we have is nice, but much to little. Of that point, I will remain steadfast and not alter.



These promo etc items should have remained default ingame to at least bring the options up to a normal level.



As it is, I feel like I a missing out, not getting extra with these things.

I think that is the point I am trying to make.

I feel that these codes for like the pepper items will actually make the very lacking default options somewhat satisfactory.



Like the Collector armor/rifle, pre order stuff is normal pre order things. That's fine.

It's all the customization options that were in the original cycle that were removed, that clearly show the lacking options left that seriously irks me.



Apologies for my stubborness.

[Guaritor]

Infernolord13 wrote...

I would like to preface this post with a statement saying I enjoyed the game despite it missing some of the more RPG esque inventory elements but I have to wonder why it is physically impossible to get the entire game?

What I mean is why did they make it so that you could not get all of the armor and weapons developed for the game IN THE ACTUAL GAME. I have no doubt EA was behind it but with all of the different pre order offers and promotions there is no actual way to get all of the weapons and armor, which is utter crap. I think that if Bioware had been able to keep it all in the game then a lot of peoples issues with the lack of inventory options would have been lessened.
 
Think, instead of having 2 pieces of armor in the game you would get 5...WTF is that all about. Over half of the armor inventory in the game is removed...for random promotional crap(don't brink up N7 armor types because they took 3 of those out for the Dr. Pepper crap too). That is my definition of selling out. Next time around I think maybe Bioware should not listen quite so strongly to EA's sellout division and actually make it possible to get the whole game without jumping through hoops and still not being able to get it all. That is by far the worst thing about this game, the lack of a real inventory selection both for the squads armor and for Shepards', which they effectively broke after the game was finished. 

Just throwing that idea out there...Agree or Disagree that is your right.

Ok, listen, Its been said several hundred times by now... you get the whole game with your purchase of the two discs.  Nothing has been cut out of the game to be sold back in promotions.  All the promotional items were created for the sole purpose of promoting the game AFTER the game was finished.  This is evidenced by the fact that all the DLC armors are whole suits and not seperate pieces of armor like whats already in the game.  The DLC armor is not just a chestplate, but a helm, gloves, chest, shoulders, and boots all in one inseperable package.  

You don't need to get every piece of possible DLC armor because they're just promotional items, they aren't needed to get the full game, you got that when you paid $60-70 for the discs.

Sure, i'd love some more armor choices, the inventory is a little lacking... and maybe some more weapon choices too (though honestly theres more unique weapons the ME1), but im not going to cry conspiracy theory at EA.

EA is not evil. Nobody sold out. YOU GOT THE WHOLE GOD DAMN FREAKING GAME.

<_<

Modifié par Guaritor, 02 février 2010 - 06:08 .

[D4rk50ul808]

If you are one of the types of people (like me) that like to have it all, you should have pre-ordered it. I do agree with the complaints about lack of actual in game options. They turned it into more of a shooter yet gave you LESS options for guns. There should have been at minimum 5 of each weapon plus an "Elite" version, and 5-10 options for each armor slot.



People complaining about stuff made prior to release as being part of the game need to get over it. Its a promotion to sell more games and generate business for other companies. It is good business and you are in no way entitled to that content. You buy the game AS IS and if you are playing the same game as I am you shouldn't have a whole lot to complain about.

[Infernolord13]

Bigeyez wrote...



Again, even if there were 100 different weapons and armor in the game people would still complain and you know it.

Yes, but there would be far fewer and less would care.

[AntiChri5]

Bigeyez wrote...

gr00grams wrote...

But it doesn't.
These things were designed to be in from the start, and subsequently taken out to be promo/dlc.

I think we are all agreed that the customization options are lackluster to say the least, and these are the areas the 'content' went to.

Nowadays a many companies start planning for, if not creating DLC before a game is released. Ignoring the fact that you have no idea when they started creating this DLC, the weapons and armor were ALWAYS intended to be free DLC. They did not "take them out of the main game" like you are implying.

The build them specifically to fit the role of pre-order and collectors edition goodies.

That is the problem though. They shouldnt be. If they had devoted the resources used to create all the DLC items to putting items in the actual game the game would just plain be better.

How many helmets are there in game? 3 that i have found.
How many helets were made during the game and could have been in it but were DLC? 3

That is just offensive.

[hbk0]

Besides the fact that some of you might feel get ripped-off. You are not really missing much.

[Infernolord13]

AntiChri5 wrote...


That is the problem though. They shouldnt be. If they had devoted the resources used to create all the DLC items to putting items in the actual game the game would just plain be better.

How many helmets are there in game? 3 that i have found.
How many helets were made during the game and could have been in it but were DLC? 3

That is just offensive.

There are actually 4 helmets lol, but two of them are the N7 standard helmet, just w/ and w/o blast shield thingy.

[Bigeyez]

AntiChri5 wrote...


That is the problem though. They shouldnt be. If they had devoted the resources used to create all the DLC items to putting items in the actual game the game would just plain be better.

How many helmets are there in game? 3 that i have found.
How many helets were made during the game and could have been in it but were DLC? 3

That is just offensive.

I understand where you're coming from and it's a double edged sword. If companies didn't start work on DLC either during production of the main game or as soon as it's gone gold we'd be seeing complaints like "zomgz when is the dlc coming! bioware are lazy cuz they havent put out DLC yet!, etc". Especially with games like DA and ME where people start whining for DLC.

Hell I bet if we reverse the situation and Mass Effect 2 didn't see any DLC for a few months, we'd be reading threads on how EA obviously ruined Bioware because they haven't put out DLC yet....but anyways I'm just rambling now and going completely off topic so I'll just stop.

[AntiChri5]

Infernolord13 wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...


That is the problem though. They shouldnt be. If they had devoted the resources used to create all the DLC items to putting items in the actual game the game would just plain be better.

How many helmets are there in game? 3 that i have found.
How many helets were made during the game and could have been in it but were DLC? 3

That is just offensive.

There are actually 4 helmets lol, but two of them are the N7 standard helmet, just w/ and w/o blast shield thingy.

I was counting N7 helmet, N7 helmet with msk, Omega visor.

Is there a melmet i have missed?

When the amount of aditional items rival the base items it is time to worry.