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#26
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People, people, lets not argue. I think we can all agree that Miranda pwns both Tali AND Ashley, especially in the looks department.

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wraith1113 wrote...

uhhh... I like tali more then Ash, but come on... Ash would kick the **** out of Tali. Probably wouldn't take more then 5 seconds if it was hand to hand.


Maybe... if you disreguard my claymore shotgun aimed at ashley's face...

I romanced ash in the first game, and had every intention of staying loyal to her in me2... but when we met up finally, she was so cold and chewed me out for my decisions and judgement.  Tali knew i wasn't doing this for cerebus and never doubted me, she earned my trust.

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To me there is no competition, but I must say in defense of the ME1LI cast, They do the negative stuff first, but if you look you can see they still care about you. With Liara, after finishing both quests for ask her why she's angry when she mentions fitting her enemy into a coffee cup and you'll get the truth behind why she's acting the way she is. With Ashley, well I believe her reaction was true to her character. Angry about the circumstances and so she's blind to the issues. However, when she sends you the email a mission later, that told me that she calmed down and probably saw things Shepard's way. In that email she revealed some emotion and heartache and I have to admit I felt bad using our Horizon encounter as a reason to dump her after reading the email.

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There's no rivalry to speak of. Tali had me as soon as we met in ME1.

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I don't have to feel bad at all for cheating on Ashley/Kaiden, because you're technically not even in a relationship anymore. At least Liara still cared, which made me feel a bit bad about cheating on her...

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challenger18 wrote...

To me there is no competition, but I must say in defense of the ME1LI cast, They do the negative stuff first, but if you look you can see they still care about you. With Liara, after finishing both quests for ask her why she's angry when she mentions fitting her enemy into a coffee cup and you'll get the truth behind why she's acting the way she is. With Ashley, well I believe her reaction was true to her character. Angry about the circumstances and so she's blind to the issues. However, when she sends you the email a mission later, that told me that she calmed down and probably saw things Shepard's way. In that email she revealed some emotion and heartache and I have to admit I felt bad using our Horizon encounter as a reason to dump her after reading the email.


Ya... the e-mail made me feel a little bad about leaving ash, but to take back what i'd already said to new li's would be unfair to them :(

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Rivalry? Ash didn't push any of my buttons in ME1, tbh, and simply threw away what little bond there was on Horizon.

Same goes for Liara, who was basically a blue ho'. I did nothing to pursue a romance with her, except for asking a few questions to get to know her, yet she threw herself at me on the first occasion.



Tali is the first romance in the series that really got me involved emotionally, as it just feels more natural than the others, evolving from the deep friendship of ME1. It's not the "Yeah, so we talked 5 times, lets **** already" nor the "So you're the only one willing to speak to me at all, i'm in luv" of Jack&Liara. You can feel that Tali really cares for the character and is willing to sacrifice something herself

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marshalleck wrote...

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Ya, Ashley was a jerk in ME2. But now I got Miranda, so I'm happy.

As far as I am concerned, the ME2 crew completed my Shepard's loyalty mission when they passed the suicide run.

Kaidan/Ashley and Liara got nothin'


Liara's the reason you're alive.  She stopped the Shadow Broker from getting your body to the Collector's.  Ash and Kaiden you can rightfully complain about, but Liara sacrificed a lot for you, even if you didn't romance her in ME1.

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CmdrFenix83 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Valcutio wrote...

Ya, Ashley was a jerk in ME2. But now I got Miranda, so I'm happy.

As far as I am concerned, the ME2 crew completed my Shepard's loyalty mission when they passed the suicide run.

Kaidan/Ashley and Liara got nothin'


Liara's the reason you're alive.  She stopped the Shadow Broker from getting your body to the Collector's.  Ash and Kaiden you can rightfully complain about, but Liara sacrificed a lot for you, even if you didn't romance her in ME1.


This is true to all aspect. I'm talking about ashley and as for an email. I don't want some shrew who thinks sending me an email in going to make up for the argument. If she wanted me to stay loyal. She should have told me out right. I've also created a character to stay loyal to liara, but thats about it. At least Liara huged me. Ashley what the hell a hand shake. I can see there was no love. What was nice Tali took her time and risked exile for me. Who loves ya baby! Tali, it was good. I say this the girl knows how to work her two fingered hands.

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Spectre_Shepard wrote...

Hehe. OK, I'll say it.

Ash will kick Tali's quarian butt.

Deny it all you want, you know it's true.


Ashley couldn't kick a can down an empty street. Tali FTW.

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Alexandus wrote...

People, people, lets not argue. I think we can all agree that Miranda pwns both Tali AND Ashley, especially in the looks department.


Miranda is a cliche bimbo.

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Alexandus wrote...

People, people, lets not argue. I think we can all agree that Miranda pwns both Tali AND Ashley, especially in the looks department.

Ehh, not really. As the engineer said, Tali's suit is snug in all the right places.

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You know that part in the first Mass Effect where Ashely is hostile to Liara, which then ties in to her feeling threatened if you try to romance them? In one playthrough, I did not recruit Liara until after Feros and Noveria. During that same scene, Ashely was hostile to Tali instead.



Makes you wonder if they had this Tali romance planned from the start...

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Commisar_V wrote...

Alexandus wrote...

People, people, lets not argue. I think we can all agree that Miranda pwns both Tali AND Ashley, especially in the looks department.

Ehh, not really. As the engineer said, Tali's suit is snug in all the right places.


Tali: You know I'm standing right here and yes I can hear you!

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Alexandus wrote...

People, people, lets not argue. I think we can all agree that Miranda pwns both Tali AND Ashley, especially in the looks department.


I agree<3

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Proud Larry wrote...

You know that part in the first Mass Effect where Ashely is hostile to Liara, which then ties in to her feeling threatened if you try to romance them? In one playthrough, I did not recruit Liara until after Feros and Noveria. During that same scene, Ashely was hostile to Tali instead.

Makes you wonder if they had this Tali romance planned from the start...


They did. They ditched it originally because they didn't think fans would like her.

Boy were they wrong.

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KainrycKarr wrote...

Proud Larry wrote...

You know that part in the first Mass Effect where Ashely is hostile to Liara, which then ties in to her feeling threatened if you try to romance them? In one playthrough, I did not recruit Liara until after Feros and Noveria. During that same scene, Ashely was hostile to Tali instead.

Makes you wonder if they had this Tali romance planned from the start...


They did. They ditched it originally because they didn't think fans would like her.

Boy were they wrong.


This makes me feel left out and uncomplete for some reason. Posted Image

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KainrycKarr

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Tooneyman wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Proud Larry wrote...

You know that part in the first Mass Effect where Ashely is hostile to Liara, which then ties in to her feeling threatened if you try to romance them? In one playthrough, I did not recruit Liara until after Feros and Noveria. During that same scene, Ashely was hostile to Tali instead.

Makes you wonder if they had this Tali romance planned from the start...


They did. They ditched it originally because they didn't think fans would like her.

Boy were they wrong.


This makes me feel left out and uncomplete for some reason. Posted Image


Why? They corrected themselves and made Tali and LI.

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Tooneyman wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...
They did. They ditched it originally because they didn't think fans would like her.
Boy were they wrong.

This makes me feel left out and uncomplete for some reason. Posted Image

@ Kainryc: lol.  That's pretty funny
@Tooneyman: wai?

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Ashley sucks all she likes is your butt and to talk about poetry. Plus she was a total ***** on horizon and Tali is just an all around better person. I say you Falcon punch Ashley right in her face.

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KainrycKarr wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Proud Larry wrote...

You know that part in the first Mass Effect where Ashely is hostile to Liara, which then ties in to her feeling threatened if you try to romance them? In one playthrough, I did not recruit Liara until after Feros and Noveria. During that same scene, Ashely was hostile to Tali instead.

Makes you wonder if they had this Tali romance planned from the start...


They did. They ditched it originally because they didn't think fans would like her.

Boy were they wrong.


This makes me feel left out and uncomplete for some reason. Posted Image


Why? They corrected themselves and made Tali and LI.




I don't know, at least I they could have tali hug me in the first one. I mean come on. I do feel fulfilled,but I used tali as a tech on one of the missions and for got to upgrade the shielding. We did the dead but she was kind of well left for dead. Nooooo!Posted Image

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Tooneyman wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Proud Larry wrote...

You know that part in the first Mass Effect where Ashely is hostile to Liara, which then ties in to her feeling threatened if you try to romance them? In one playthrough, I did not recruit Liara until after Feros and Noveria. During that same scene, Ashely was hostile to Tali instead.

Makes you wonder if they had this Tali romance planned from the start...


They did. They ditched it originally because they didn't think fans would like her.

Boy were they wrong.


This makes me feel left out and uncomplete for some reason. Posted Image


Why? They corrected themselves and made Tali and LI.




I don't know, at least I they could have tali hug me in the first one. I mean come on. I do feel fulfilled,but I used tali as a tech on one of the missions and for got to upgrade the shielding. We did the dead but she was kind of well left for dead. Nooooo!Posted Image


Load up a save and try again?

People act like they can only play through it once...

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if you screwed up the loyalty stuff you can only do it once.

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KainrycKarr wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Proud Larry wrote...

You know that part in the first Mass Effect where Ashely is hostile to Liara, which then ties in to her feeling threatened if you try to romance them? In one playthrough, I did not recruit Liara until after Feros and Noveria. During that same scene, Ashely was hostile to Tali instead.

Makes you wonder if they had this Tali romance planned from the start...


They did. They ditched it originally because they didn't think fans would like her.

Boy were they wrong.


This makes me feel left out and uncomplete for some reason. Posted Image


Why? They corrected themselves and made Tali and LI.




I don't know, at least I they could have tali hug me in the first one. I mean come on. I do feel fulfilled,but I used tali as a tech on one of the missions and for got to upgrade the shielding. We did the dead but she was kind of well left for dead. Nooooo!Posted Image


Load up a save and try again?

People act like they can only play through it once...


Yeah, yeah i know, but it just doesn't have the same dramatic scale if I do it over. Tali, Nooo! Posted Image

The love shepard had with the quarian who was carrying his genetic like quarian, human baby dies on the battle field to save the man she loves. Only to enrage shepard into a renegade in ME 3 and decided to wipe the reapers out of existence and long comes liara to comfort shepard on his ulitmate loss of love. Posted Image

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Tooneyman wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Proud Larry wrote...

You know that part in the first Mass Effect where Ashely is hostile to Liara, which then ties in to her feeling threatened if you try to romance them? In one playthrough, I did not recruit Liara until after Feros and Noveria. During that same scene, Ashely was hostile to Tali instead.

Makes you wonder if they had this Tali romance planned from the start...


They did. They ditched it originally because they didn't think fans would like her.

Boy were they wrong.


This makes me feel left out and uncomplete for some reason. Posted Image


Why? They corrected themselves and made Tali and LI.




I don't know, at least I they could have tali hug me in the first one. I mean come on. I do feel fulfilled,but I used tali as a tech on one of the missions and for got to upgrade the shielding. We did the dead but she was kind of well left for dead. Nooooo!Posted Image


Load up a save and try again?

People act like they can only play through it once...


Yeah, yeah i know, but it just doesn't have the same dramatic scale if I do it over. Tali, Nooo! Posted Image

The love shepard had with the quarian who was carrying his genetic like quarian, human baby dies on the battle field to save the man she loves. Only to enrage shepard into a renegade in ME 3 and decided to wipe the reapers out of existence and long comes liara to comfort shepard on his ulitmate loss of love. Posted Image


Liara can DIAF(die in a fire) for all I care. Tali returns in ME3 or I don't buy. I'll write my own ending, heh.