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#76
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Seriously, when she brought up her dislike of aliens even after the first game it was a really, "Okay, I've had enough, time to get off the crazy train" moment.

And my Shep actually started off as something of a racist in the first game but I thought that by the end of ME1 Shep/Ash had overcome that. Apparently only one of us did.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 03 février 2010 - 03:09 .


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The best option imo, is to make ash sit on the nuke in ME1, have a bromance with Kaidan and a Romance with Tali

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Himmelstor

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I kind've want to see Ash's reaction to being dumped for an alien.

Modifié par Himmelstor, 03 février 2010 - 03:26 .


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Himmelstor wrote...

Hey hey, I wasn't as bad at writing short dialogues as I thought!

Tali. Will. Win. In. A. Fight.
Why?
My Anti-Materiel Rifle, that's why!


hahaha, my favorite weapon in the game, why? reminds me of this

#80
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I may be the only one, but for some reason it was hard for me to leave Ashley. So my first playthrough I stayed loyal to her. I even got SOME closure at the end when it shows Sheppard smiling at the picture of her in his Quarters.

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Himmelstor

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You're not. My other Paragon Shep stayed loyal. My main one, the one that goes as I do on a generous day is with Tali.

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Whats funny is I created a character even before mass effect 2 came out with the hopes my shepard would romance Tali. I wasn't even on the forums then. I just wished it would happen and sure enough I got my wish. My shepard didn't even touch liara or ashley. I was truly loyal to my two fingered woman.



Though I won't lie my other shepards has his way with liara first then ashley. I don't know why, but my actual first couple play throughs with mass effect one when I first started the game. I left ashley on the nuke instead of kaiden. I think because I found kaidens bio optics to be useful, plus ashleys a racist shrew.!

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Tali has a drone that goes for the optics. No contest.

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ITs name is chikka

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Himmelstor wrote...

I kind've want to see Ash's reaction to being dumped for an alien.

I hope they write  that into ME3.

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Ash just walks over and sneezes over Tali. Garrus on intercom "that's one less quarian to worry about"



Anyways, Tali is a teenage girl. Ash is a more mature and somewhat complicated women (before you start the racist stuff, bother to see the reasons and perspective, which, the OP obviously failed.)



But again, it's all irrelevant. Ash is a women while Tali is a girl, that's an obvious win for me. Ash for her being a complicated wishful young women. For the people who prefer a simple-personality, but nice young girl, Tali.

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hawat333 wrote...

Ash just walks over and sneezes over Tali. Garrus on intercom "that's one less quarian to worry about"

Anyways, Tali is a teenage girl. Ash is a more mature and somewhat complicated women (before you start the racist stuff, bother to see the reasons and perspective, which, the OP obviously failed.)

But again, it's all irrelevant. Ash is a women while Tali is a girl, that's an obvious win for me. Ash for her being a complicated wishful young women. For the people who prefer a simple-personality, but nice young girl, Tali.


Did you play ME2? Tali would hardly be effect by Ash sneezing on her. As for the little girl thing. I think you mean Ash acts a lot like a little girl. She whines, throws temper tantrum every chance she gets. Tali is heads and shoulders more mature acting than Ash. Try actually playing ME2.

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It's pretty obvious who trusts and respects Shepard, and who Shepard can trust. He can count the number of trustworthy friends on one hand: Tali and Garrus.

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hawat333 wrote...

Ash just walks over and sneezes over Tali. Garrus on intercom "that's one less quarian to worry about"

Anyways, Tali is a teenage girl. Ash is a more mature and somewhat complicated women (before you start the racist stuff, bother to see the reasons and perspective, which, the OP obviously failed.)

But again, it's all irrelevant. Ash is a women while Tali is a girl, that's an obvious win for me. Ash for her being a complicated wishful young women. For the people who prefer a simple-personality, but nice young girl, Tali.


Incorrect. Tali isn't a teenageer. She's 24 years old. Since Quarian/Human lifespans are similar, that actually makes her 'older' than Liara who's like 14-16 in Asari years. (which is why I always got a pedophile vibe from Liara)

And there's nothing at all complicated about Ashley. Not an insult on her. She's very direct about things. But Tali has richer layers. Not simple at all.

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marshalleck wrote...

It's pretty obvious who trusts and respects Shepard, and who Shepard can trust. He can count the number of trustworthy friends on one hand: Tali and Garrus.


Well I'd include Joker, Dr. Chakwas and Wrex in that. Wrex would have gone with you if he could have. But still one hand.

Tali didn't hesitate at all to trust you when she ran into you. Even with Cerberus at your side. She knew you had a plan and wanted to watch your back.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

It's pretty obvious who trusts and respects Shepard, and who Shepard can trust. He can count the number of trustworthy friends on one hand: Tali and Garrus.


Well I'd include Joker, Dr. Chakwas and Wrex in that. Wrex would have gone with you if he could have. But still one hand.

Tali didn't hesitate at all to trust you when she ran into you. Even with Cerberus at your side. She knew you had a plan and wanted to watch your back.


Well, I meant characters you could take into combat with you. But yeah, Joker and Chakwas as well. You can still count them on one hand. :P

Tali and Garrus both called you out on the Cerberus link actually, but decided to trust Shepard's judgement. I remember Tali offering to give me a grenade if I wanted to blow them up. :wub:

Modifié par marshalleck, 03 février 2010 - 03:48 .


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ShadyKat wrote...

hawat333 wrote...

Ash just walks over and sneezes over Tali. Garrus on intercom "that's one less quarian to worry about"

Anyways, Tali is a teenage girl. Ash is a more mature and somewhat complicated women (before you start the racist stuff, bother to see the reasons and perspective, which, the OP obviously failed.)

But again, it's all irrelevant. Ash is a women while Tali is a girl, that's an obvious win for me. Ash for her being a complicated wishful young women. For the people who prefer a simple-personality, but nice young girl, Tali.


Did you play ME2? Tali would hardly be effect by Ash sneezing on her. As for the little girl thing. I think you mean Ash acts a lot like a little girl. She whines, throws temper tantrum every chance she gets. Tali is heads and shoulders more mature acting than Ash. Try actually playing ME2.



Totally agree,  I see some serious ownage there.Image IPB

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As fight for the crown and to the death I say if ashley was to fight tali in hand to hand combat yes she would win. AS for gun play probably as well. Tali though can set up traps and minds so if it come to guerilla war fair tali's got her beat.

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Himmelstor

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And Tali has an advantage...



My anti-materiel rifle...with me holding it...

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Jimbe2693 wrote...

The best option imo, is to make ash sit on the nuke in ME1, have a bromance with Kaidan and a Romance with Tali


YES.
Kaiden "Sorry I was such a douche on Horizon. I was mad about working with freakin colonists again"
Shepard "It's cool. Wanna come with me and Tali to Afterlife? I'll bring Miranda.."
Kaiden "I love you Shepard."

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Tali>ash............Also........i'm better than you

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KainrycKarr wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

Lukertin wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...
Yeah, yeah i know, but it just doesn't have the same dramatic scale if I do it over. Tali, Nooo! Image IPB

The love shepard had with the quarian who was carrying his genetic like quarian, human baby dies on the battle field to save the man she loves. Only to enrage shepard into a renegade in ME 3 and decided to wipe the reapers out of existence and long comes liara to comfort shepard on his ulitmate loss of love. Image IPB

Completely different and incompatible proteomics = no human/quarian hybrid.  It ain't gonna happen.  There are no alien hybrids in the ME universe.


Why the heck not? Think about it with the human gene quarians could live outside their suits again.


You misunderstand. It was a pain in the ass for Tali to find a way to "love" Shepard safely(which is an excellent plot device that made it that much more satisfying for me) because Quarians are biologically incompatible with humans.

It just can't happen. A hybrid is genetically impossible, in every sense of the word.


I will let Bioware have the final say on this, in their world their is a species that is asexual and has mind sex but for some reason has convergently evolved along lines as human females and their society is a matriarchy yet Bioware wants us to consider them strictly asexual not say fanservice for men and lesbians. They also had another species melt humans into a giant human.  If you start applying science not to the technology (which is sensible or so I've heard) but to the biology things start falling apart imo.  Plus they've done stuff like that before in DA:O and BG.    

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When it comes right down too it. Bioware will decide if someone could have a baby or not. Like the guy above me wrote. Though for a weird plot twist why noT! HAVe my baby Tali! ahhh!

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hawat333 wrote...

Ash just walks over and sneezes over Tali. Garrus on intercom "that's one less quarian to worry about"

Anyways, Tali is a teenage girl. Ash is a more mature and somewhat complicated women (before you start the racist stuff, bother to see the reasons and perspective, which, the OP obviously failed.)

But again, it's all irrelevant. Ash is a women while Tali is a girl, that's an obvious win for me. Ash for her being a complicated wishful young women. For the people who prefer a simple-personality, but nice young girl, Tali.


Tali isn't a teenager if you go by human years. 22 in ME1 and 24 in ME2. That's a woman, not a young teenager.

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masterp1975 wrote...

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uhhh... I like tali more then Ash, but come on... Ash would kick the **** out of Tali. Probably wouldn't take more then 5 seconds if it was hand to hand.


"Take pictures."


ROFL!