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[Napoleon1853]

Aytrydez wrote...

This makes my decision between purchasing L4D2 or MW2 sooooo much easier.

Lol.

[allothernamesweretaken]

Bossalinie wrote...

you don't get any of those options in the console version either. can't really cry about it.

Please expalin to me why consoles shouldn't get dedicated servers and whatnot, instead. A few console games have done it already, it's not impossible.

With dedicated servers you get the ability to have:
Player made content
Mods
A proper sense of community
The ability to choose what map you want to play
The ability to play 32V32 or 1v1, if you so please
Not having to deal with ****s
A game can remain relevant for years. People still play CS 1.6 on a regular basis.

With this system you get:
No player made content
No mods
You play whatever map the system thinks is good
9v9 max. On one game mode.
10$ map packs
100ms ping, maximum. While 100 MS is extremely playable, the fact that it's the best they can get on their 100MB connection is extremely bad news.

There's a reason P2P is only accepted for strategy and co-op games on the PC.

IW should be giving console players the same options as PC players. But hey! We get new innovative features like text-chat in game and mouse control!

[the_one_54321]

you know, i dont really see this as all that bad. or at least i wouldnt. what you can do is still fun, though the other features certainly would be a huge plus. what pushed me over the edge was reading that live chat question session. their response to all the PC players asking questions about features was more or less "PC players go [copulate] yourselves." they just didnt care. they didnt have any good answers, and they couldnt be bothered to have good answers or to even be honest about why they had no good answers. they basically told all the PC players to [copulate] off.

Modifié par the_one_54321, 10 novembre 2009 - 06:03 .

[fairandbalancedfan]

This game is getting crazy publicity. I went on the BBC news website, and there was the story on MW2, calling it possibly one of the the biggest entertainment launches in history.

[GhoXen]

I guess the good news is that Dragon Age Origins just got a lot more likely to become game of the year. For awhile, before MW2 released, that title was basically hanging between these two releases.



Well.. unless L4D2 turns out to be really really good. We'll see.

[fairandbalancedfan]

GhoXen wrote...

I guess the good news is that Dragon Age Origins just got a lot more likely to become game of the year. For awhile, before MW2 released, that title was basically hanging between these two releases.

Well.. unless L4D2 turns out to be really really good. We'll see.

I have a feeling that a lot of the gaming websites and magazines are going to jump in the hype bandwagon and going to give MW2 GOTY awards. To be fair, if the game deserves it, then by all means give the awards to them.

[Napoleon1853]

GhoXen wrote...

I guess the good news is that Dragon Age Origins just got a lot more likely to become game of the year. For awhile, before MW2 released, that title was basically hanging between these two releases.

Well.. unless L4D2 turns out to be really really good. We'll see.

I really don't see Dragon Age: Origins getting game of the year. Maybe PC game of the year, but I don't think it will get overall game of the year awards from places like IGN and such. I could be wrong though.

I don't see how this news makes it less likely MW2 will get game of the year. Many people play console games and don't even care about what is happening to the PC version.

[TheWabbit]

They did the same thing to Operation Flashpoint 2. They took a great PC game, made a console sequel, ported back to the PC.

All they accomplished was destroying a franchise. Arma 2 is far better than MW, Battlefield, and OF2.

[Napoleon1853]

TheWabbit wrote...

They did the same thing to Operation Flashpoint 2. They took a great PC game, made a console sequel, ported back to the PC.
All they accomplished was destroying a franchise. Arma 2 is far better than MW, Battlefield, and OF2.

Idk how much I'm into games like Arma 2. Idk if I have ever played a game like them. You would call those military sims right? Well, I have played Americas Army 2 and 3. Do those count?

[Napoleon1853]

http://www.newgamene...dern-warfare-2/

**** Infinity Ward!
I think they ****ed over PC gamers big time. If you like the changes though, I won't hold that against you because that is your personal opinion.

If you want to, go around to websites and rate Modern Warfare 2 as the lowest score you possible can and leave a review saying how it sucks. I mean do this if you want to if you are mad about what the ****ing horrible company known as Infinity Ward has done to PC gamers.

Check this video out of PC Modern Warfare 2 Gameplay
I guess the host had or has bad internet? Or it was acting bad or something?

ya.....**** you Infinity Ward.

Modifié par Napoleon1853, 11 novembre 2009 - 07:33 .

[Lord Beretor]

Rayvolution wrote...

I think the point he's making (or what I'm getting out of this) is the PC version seems to be getting dumbed down to match the console version's architecture, because they're too damn lazy to make the PC version differ too much from the console version. It's just easier to make both versions almost identical.

Dumbed down?

I'll have you know that console MW2 is harder than playing PC.

Point and click FTL.

I think your reasoning is flawed as it is a port from PC to Console. So why would they change things in favour of the console? Apart from the obvious reason of being alot less pirate friendly.

[Panderfringe]

I think you're all a bunch of entitled whiners, but who cares about that when you can HARGLBARGL

[Jeedy]

Lord Beretor wrote...

Rayvolution wrote...

I think the point he's making (or what I'm getting out of this) is the PC version seems to be getting dumbed down to match the console version's architecture, because they're too damn lazy to make the PC version differ too much from the console version. It's just easier to make both versions almost identical.

Dumbed down?

I'll have you know that console MW2 is harder than playing PC.

Point and click FTL.

I think your reasoning is flawed as it is a port from PC to Console. So why would they change things in favour of the console? Apart from the obvious reason of being alot less pirate friendly.

 
  The GAMEPLAY for PC has been dumbed down to bring it in line with console standards, which is more casual compared to PC.
 MW2 is infact a console to PC port.

Both of these points are evident not only in the total lack of options in multiplayer but also in the dumbing down of gameplay style ( the most glaringly obvious being the loss of the lean ability so you cannot make full use of cover as well as just the general "feel" of controls ).

As for the claims of consoles being less pirate friendly, how come there have been authentic MW2 torrents for 360 available for the last week yet the PC torrents have only just started showing up?

If this kind of gameplay becomes commonplace (especially on the PC) it will kill off organized competetive online play, i mean how are you supposed to run a league when other players are hosting on thier own connections, you have no way to telling the hacks from the skilled and even if you can, you have no ability to do anything about it?

On a sidenote check out youtube for the mw2 hacks that were released the same day as the game went live, awesome work from IW at keeping the cheats at bay.

*edit- Activision are blocking some Youtube videos of the hacks in action so  i present you with i35.tinypic.com/opo0eo.jpg  which is a screenshot of a MW2 bounding box hack thats currently causing players grief.

Modifié par Jeedy, 12 novembre 2009 - 03:52 .

[Sword For Hire]

Aytrydez wrote...

This makes my decision between purchasing L4D2 or MW2 sooooo much easier.

exactly

[lv12medic]

I am now a sad owner of MW2 for the PC.

Well, if anyone wants to know (And I think most people here already know) how MW2 plays on the PC.  It is just like the consolde with mouse and text support connected to STEAM.  And private matches are no different than hosting a NON-dedicated server of World at War.  Practically the exact same options.  So you can essentially alter very little of how the game plays in terms of game rules etc.  And the matchmaking is what we all know it is, a random hit or miss system where you either have a decent match or you get so bogged down by lag and random server migrations that you quit playing.

I do like a lot of the weapons, and attachment options, and perk options and leveling perks/attachments and the selection of weapons (finally a decent number of LMG's and Shotguns!).

But if you buy the $60 Xbox360 wireless controller with the PC wireless adapter and play it that way (I may actually try this, and burst out in pained laughter if MW2 has a preset configuration for the 360 controller), and you'll feel like your playing MW2 on an overpowered and overpriced Xbox360 (aka your PC).

So, as for me, I'll spend 19% of my time playing private matches with my friends, aka small 2v2 games and free for all, .5% playing the single player campaign, .5% playing online through the matchmaking service, and 80% of my time wondering if it was truly worth it.

Just to confirm what everyone knew. 

[the_one_54321]

this is why im not buying the game.



jeeze, event the matchmaking in FEAR2 was better than that. all you had to do was find a guy hosting a game with a good connection.

[Amnesiac Jack]

My problem with MW2 and the people who buy it is that by using your money it moves the industry in that direction. Your purchase is a vote of confidence that what they are doing is right and acceptable and that it is ok for them to continue in that direction.



My problem is that it hurts me (not physically of course) by moving the industry in a direction of stagnation. MW2 doesn't really bring any thing new to the FPS market and infact removed a great deal of innovation from the previous title. It's a gimped product being sold for more than it's worth (again I realize that is subjective but only if you don't compare it to the past games).



All I'm asking is that we don't turn the industry into the Top-40 music charts or mainsteam TV. Look at those industries, stagnation and garbage (yep my opinion again). I mean really how many artists sound exactly the same, how many Law and Order / CSI shows do we need? Probably not as many as we've got but since no one is demanding any thing different and just accepting what ever is put out there it won't change.



Money is extremely powerful and all I ask is that people have a little bit more respect with their money because how you spend it affects all of us.



Now go a head and flame away, I've got high fire resistance.

[the_one_54321]

Amnesiac Jack wrote...
All I'm asking is that we don't turn the industry into the Top-40 music charts or mainsteam TV.

oh god, yes this please. there is a good reason why i havent had cable TV for over 4 years and have never once missed it. my life has been better, far more entertaining and far more productive since i had it disconnected and i will never go back.

similarly, the music industry does nothing but produce the next big thing for sale. screw them. screw them up and down and every which way. i respect the gaming developers precisely because they dont do things like this. part of the reason i never touch all those seasonal sports games. the other part being that i just dont find them terribly entertaining. it would make me a much happier person if all these newcomers to the party would stop validating the industries business motivated push towards emulating these industries.

[fairandbalancedfan]

the_one_54321 wrote...

Amnesiac Jack wrote...
All I'm asking is that we don't turn the industry into the Top-40 music charts or mainsteam TV.

oh god, yes this please. there is a good reason why i havent had cable TV for over 4 years and have never once missed it. my life has been better, far more entertaining and far more productive since i had it disconnected and i will never go back.

similarly, the music industry does nothing but produce the next big thing for sale. screw them. screw them up and down and every which way. i respect the gaming developers precisely because they dont do things like this. part of the reason i never touch all those seasonal sports games. the other part being that i just dont find them terribly entertaining. it would make me a much happier person if all these newcomers to the party would stop validating the industries business motivated push towards emulating these industries.

This. One of the main reasons I hate EA is they keep shovelling out sports games with nothing but updated sports rosters. There is nothing wrong with shooting for sales, but actually care for the game you are making.

[Jeedy]

And things just got worse - Activision have announced plans to introduce a possible pay-to-play scheme ( along the lines of WoW etc) as well as purchasable DLC, I for one am interested to see how the 360 fanboys react to this little bombshell.



Rather than furnish you with a load of links, simply google Activision pay to play and read for yourselves.

[Amnesiac Jack]

Jeedy you just broke my heart as my worst nightmares about gaming have now begun to come to life.

[the_one_54321]

and the sound was as the baying of the hounds of hell.
alas, poor video gaming. i knew you well.

in all seriousness, i am not paying a regular mini payments for what amounts to a movie with multiplayer. and crappy multiplayer at that. and anyone that does has had the wool pulled over their eyes. fools and easy marks, all of you.

this is their answer to pirates? screw over the honest consumer? nickel-and-dime them until you've bled of every last drop? i say let the pirates have them. at this point, i dont even feel sorry for them any more. go out of business for all i care.

>=(

Modifié par the_one_54321, 14 novembre 2009 - 03:28 .

[the_one_54321]

double post

Modifié par the_one_54321, 14 novembre 2009 - 03:28 .

[Jeedy]

Amnesiac Jack wrote...

Jeedy you just broke my heart as my worst nightmares about gaming have now begun to come to life.

I know how you feel, i've been gaming for just over 20 years on every platform released in that time and seeing how things are going is driving me to the point of giving it all up, however i'm holding out hope that the console jockeys and PC gamers that bought MW2 will get their act together and turn Activisions finest hour into their worst nightmare.

I mean look at how things were just a few years ago, almost every game had modding support to one extent or another, the only additional content you had to buy were expansions and DLC was unthinkable, now the modding support is all but gone ( kudo's to Bioware for releasing the toolset ) and i cant remember the last single player game to get a decent expansion, its all DLC, which equates to small content patches.

As unpopular as this will be, alot of these problems are rooted with console players ( mainly 360 at that) because they have been forced to get new stuff this way and it's spilled over to other formats.

Whats next, we have to buy patches for bug fixes ? the industry is getting far too greedy and will continue to do so until people wake up and stop buying into the hype.