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[screwoffreg]

It is clear that the Quarian homeworld is going to be a huge issue in ME 3 and it is natural that Tali will play a part in that. I imagine that Legion will also be around, so he will work from the Geth side. A war between the Geth and Quarians would leave both of them open to absolute destruction by the Reapers.

[wulf3n]

Though did it seem like Tali, was less usefull in ME2? In ME1 i was practically forced to have her in my squad as she was the only one who could open stuff, however her abilities in ME2 didn't seem that usefull to me. AI Hacking, meh geth and robots were dead before it was needed, and Combat Drone, not really sure how that one really helped much

[evanpmc]

77boy84 wrote...

If Tali plays a huge role in ME3, I'll be severely disappointed in bioware.

She's an okay character, and it's cool if you like her, but promoting one of the dullest characters in ME1 to a main character that plays a huge role in the story JUST because her fans wont shut up about it is ridiculous.

I'd rather her just be in there as fan service and not as a main character, because she's a dull character, and in both games she was the one of the weakest cast members.

I found Tali to be the most interesting character in ME1 because unlike everyone else, she seemed to be having fun and enjoying herself. Plus without her, Shepard never makes Spectre and they can't go after Saren. She plays a big role in both games.

Even discounting that, as the sole quarian in the first game, she is the representative for the entire race to the players, and learning about their culture through her also makes her an important and lively character. I actually thought she was supposed to be a love interest in the first game because of how deeply fleshed out her character was.

[epoch_]

Handren wrote...

Count me in, of course!

I understand that some people don`t see the appeal of tali, adn that's fine, everyone has different tastes, but many also do on here and Gfaqs(the only 2 places I know of that discuss ME).

Heck, even on my other main forum, one that has a section for video games, in the ME2 thread, many people wanted to roamnce Tali.

Personally, I love how Tali's romance and charachter had such a huge part in ME2, from when you first meet, to recruiting, to her EPIC loyalty mission, it not only solidified her as an important part of ME but, unlike the other LI's(NOT saying that the others are bad) built up an arc leading to see how she could fall in love with shepard, just as the people who chose to have their Shepards fall in love with her.

That's truly why I really love Tali in ME2.

[The Gay Warden]

This is really becoming popular, wow!

[BigKahuna25]

sp333dd3m0n wrote...

Sageless Ranger wrote...

77boy84 wrote...

If Tali plays a huge role in ME3, I'll be severely disappointed in bioware.

She's an okay character, and it's cool if you like her, but promoting one of the dullest characters in ME1 to a main character that plays a huge role in the story JUST because her fans wont shut up about it is ridiculous.

I'd rather her just be in there as fan service and not as a main character, because she's a dull character, and in both games she was the one of the weakest cast members.

How dare you say that when we have characters like Zaheed walking around. 

I wanted to blow Zaeed out the airlock after i got him, I was hoping for a way to get rid of him in the end.......but i didn't know if it would affect the achievement for keeping all my squad members........grrrr. Zaeed is just ugh......he really qualifies as the most boring individual in the game.......I find that some of the NPC that you see once are more interesting than him.

Idk how Tali can be considered a dull character......you must have not been playing ME 1 or 2......

zaeed was the only one I lost on the mission, I was fine with it.

[Himmelstor]

Popular as the charactor is.  Tells you something, doesn't it.

Tali must return as a squadmember and LI. ("Carthago delenda est" - if it worked in Rome, why not here?)

Modifié par Himmelstor, 03 février 2010 - 03:58 .

[77boy84]

evanpmc wrote...

77boy84 wrote...

If Tali plays a huge role in ME3, I'll be severely disappointed in bioware.

She's an okay character, and it's cool if you like her, but promoting one of the dullest characters in ME1 to a main character that plays a huge role in the story JUST because her fans wont shut up about it is ridiculous.

I'd rather her just be in there as fan service and not as a main character, because she's a dull character, and in both games she was the one of the weakest cast members.

I found Tali to be the most interesting character in ME1 because unlike everyone else, she seemed to be having fun and enjoying herself. Plus without her, Shepard never makes Spectre and they can't go after Saren. She plays a big role in both games.

Even discounting that, as the sole quarian in the first game, she is the representative for the entire race to the players, and learning about their culture through her also makes her an important and lively character. I actually thought she was supposed to be a love interest in the first game because of how deeply fleshed out her character was.

You didn't think Wrex and Garrus weren't having fun?
Hell, I remember a scene where Tali ****es Garrus out just for having too much fun.

And as far as the quarian thing goes, she was only worth talking to just to learn about the quarians and the flotilla, but I was never interested in her ACTUAL character. Now that there are actual quarians hanging around in ME2, and now that you can see the actual flotilla, she needs a bit more than "She's a quarian!" to make her cool.

[noisecode]

screwoffreg wrote...

It is clear that the Quarian homeworld is going to be a huge issue in ME 3 and it is natural that Tali will play a part in that. I imagine that Legion will also be around, so he will work from the Geth side. A war between the Geth and Quarians would leave both of them open to absolute destruction by the Reapers.

    I defintily see this as possible.


  Don't forget that Legion is a m ULTRA important charecter.  He basicaly is the "true Geth" and proves the misconception that all geth want to eradicate organic life.

   I hope we are given the option of settling the war between the Quarian and the Geth......................... or turn it into a raging inferno that decimates the Migrant Fleet and ravages the Quaraian home world (if you're a Renegade that is )

[Haventh]

Yes! I want Tali in ME3. I wouldn't mind seeing her face though. But we already know that she has a rather humanoid looking face, cause you can see the eyes and nose, and skin quite clearly trhough the mask sometimes.

[Pathogen69]

wulf3n wrote...

Though did it seem like Tali, was less usefull in ME2? In ME1 i was practically forced to have her in my squad as she was the only one who could open stuff, however her abilities in ME2 didn't seem that usefull to me. AI Hacking, meh geth and robots were dead before it was needed, and Combat Drone, not really sure how that one really helped much

depends on the difficulty with which you played the game.  i know on insanity, the combat drone was a GODSEND for flushing people out from behind cover so i could cap them with the sniper rifle.  if things got hectic, hacking a geth destroyer or geth prime bought me precious time to recoup and get ready to press on.

[Iclonic]

sp333dd3m0n wrote...

Iclonic wrote...

Darastryx wrote...

I'm with Garrus and Tali as Shepard's go to wingman/woman. They've been faithful to Shepard so far in the trilogy, why not just close out the storyline with them at his side?

And I'm not even talking about any romance aspect. These were the only two characters that have stuck with Shepard through thick and thin, if they are not playable squad members in ME3, I don't know if I'd want to play it.

Don't get me wrong, I like all the characters in ME2, I won't at all contest that. I really hope there's a way to Thane in ME3 as he's my favorite new character. But to leave Garrus and Tali would take something away from the game for me personally.

Exactly.  They should have made Garrus, Tali, and Shepherd talk to each other about past experiences and stuff...I expected Tali and Garrus to have at least said hi to each other when they met...

Well, they kinda do talk to each other if you have them both in your party when you're on the citadel.......it ends with Tali saying "i have a shotgun" ahh good times lol

Yeah, I remember that...But still you know what I mean...I felt like they didn' even notice each other after reuniting from two years of doing their own thing.

[crimsoncobra57]

The Gay Warden wrote...

This is really becoming popular, wow!

And may it continue to grow!

[Mangasage]

What a tease the Tali romance scene was!  C'mon!  Anyway, I need a Tali DLC mission.  Some Tali fan service through Cerbrus Network please, Bioware.  I can't wait two more years for Mass Effect 3 to hear Tali's sweet accent again.

[BigKahuna25]

Pathogen69 wrote...

wulf3n wrote...

Though did it seem like Tali, was less usefull in ME2? In ME1 i was practically forced to have her in my squad as she was the only one who could open stuff, however her abilities in ME2 didn't seem that usefull to me. AI Hacking, meh geth and robots were dead before it was needed, and Combat Drone, not really sure how that one really helped much

depends on the difficulty with which you played the game.  i know on insanity, the combat drone was a GODSEND for flushing people out from behind cover so i could cap them with the sniper rifle.  if things got hectic, hacking a geth destroyer or geth prime bought me precious time to recoup and get ready to press on.

I hated the living crap out of destroyers even on veteran. On insanity if I glimpsed one it was collector beam time.

[Pathogen69]

[quote]Iclonic wrote...
Well, they kinda do talk to each other if you have them both in your party when you're on the citadel.......it ends with Tali saying "i have a shotgun" ahh good times lol[/quote]

Yeah, I remember that...But still you know what I mean...I felt like they didn' even notice each other after reuniting from two years of doing their own thing.

[/quote]

ya, i was a little disappointed with the lack of random spoutings that occured between characters while wandering around.  i did enjoy some of the elevator conversations, and like you said, i wouldve hoped thered have been more dialogue between the me1 characters when they all got united throughout the game.  but, oh well.  one small wrong in the numerous rights that bioware accomplished with this game.

[The Gay Warden]

crimsoncobra57 wrote...

The Gay Warden wrote...

This is really becoming popular, wow!

And may it continue to grow!

QFT.

[Pathogen69]

BigKahuna25 wrote...
I hated the living crap out of destroyers even on veteran. On insanity if I glimpsed one it was collector beam time.

destroyers were only bad if you lettem get close since they had a flamethrower.  on insanity on my soldier, 1 sniper shot from the widow was enough to get the shields down, and then i usually had tali hack it and watch it go ape sh*t on the surrounding geth.

[Lethanavir]

crimsoncobra57 wrote...

noisecode wrote...

That is a choice i hope i NEVER have to make. 

Oh trust me, I agree completely. I just hope that if one of them does have to die, I can at least be a part of it. Not random, and not just a part of the canon plot. To me it works better if the player has the choice, since every player views the story different. Best example: Some people agree that destroying the collector ship is the right thing, while others argue it's a stupid mistake. There is a whole topic about it on the first page.

So obviously people feel very differently about things, and this is a game that emphasizes player choice and unique story based on those choices. To some people party members might not be as important on the whole scope of the trilogy as far as canon is concerned.. But for someone like me, I need to know I can protect Tali ../../../images/forum/emoticons/sideways.png

I wont settle for an option where she dies no matter what.

Personally, I prefer the ME2 way of handling deaths. I don't like to choose who dies, but rather, I like to be able to maximize the odds of survival. Although, in ME1 I wish I could have had both Ash and Kaidan die. I didn't like either one.

If they do have a "choose who dies" piece in ME3 then I don't think that it will be a choice between two (or more) characters. I think that it will be a choice between you and a character.  Do you sacrifice yourself to save Garrus, but in the process leave Tali to mourn your death? Or do you let Garrus sacrifice himself to save you alowing you to be with Tali?

[sp333dd3m0n]

Iclonic wrote...

sp333dd3m0n wrote...

Iclonic wrote...

Darastryx wrote...

I'm with Garrus and Tali as Shepard's go to wingman/woman. They've been faithful to Shepard so far in the trilogy, why not just close out the storyline with them at his side?

And I'm not even talking about any romance aspect. These were the only two characters that have stuck with Shepard through thick and thin, if they are not playable squad members in ME3, I don't know if I'd want to play it.

Don't get me wrong, I like all the characters in ME2, I won't at all contest that. I really hope there's a way to Thane in ME3 as he's my favorite new character. But to leave Garrus and Tali would take something away from the game for me personally.

Exactly.  They should have made Garrus, Tali, and Shepherd talk to each other about past experiences and stuff...I expected Tali and Garrus to have at least said hi to each other when they met...

Well, they kinda do talk to each other if you have them both in your party when you're on the citadel.......it ends with Tali saying "i have a shotgun" ahh good times lol

Yeah, I remember that...But still you know what I mean...I felt like they didn' even notice each other after reuniting from two years of doing their own thing.

I know what you mean, it would be pretty cool if you could get involved in conversations involving 3 people. That might be something to implement in ME3?

[evanpmc]

77boy84 wrote...
You didn't think Wrex and Garrus weren't having fun?
Hell, I remember a scene where Tali ****es Garrus out just for having too much fun.

And as far as the quarian thing goes, she was only worth talking to just to learn about the quarians and the flotilla, but I was never interested in her ACTUAL character. Now that there are actual quarians hanging around in ME2, and now that you can see the actual flotilla, she needs a bit more than "She's a quarian!" to make her cool.

Garrus is a primer on paragon/renegade and is pretty much a stereotypical "loose cannon" cop who is too angsty. Wrex is fun, but also terribly one note angry character who just wants to kill. Tali was closer to sharing the player's perspective in the game, because it was like she was seeing these things for the first time like the player was.

I think meeting her on her pilgrimage, helping her out with that and her sticking it out with you, and then having her character share a lot of tragic or harrowing experiences beside Shepard in ME2 give her the most depth of any character in the series. Garris is a close second because he was amazing in ME2 as well and much more well-rounded.

Tali and Garrus are pretty much the co-stars of the ME series now. And I think Tali in particular has been crafted and written amazingly.

[Hubb-]

+1; bring her back as a squad-mate and LI!

[wulf3n]

you know i wonder if she will be able to be "Romanced" in ME3, if you didn't in ME2?

edit: Cos in terms of progamming and development, that would be a real headache, not impossible, but a lot more work for who knows how much reward.

Modifié par wulf3n, 03 février 2010 - 04:15 .