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All Tali fans, read this! IT'S UP TO US TO KEEP TALI ALIVE!


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Kami102 wrote...

Aww crap -- Guys, What does Tali say in the scene just before Shepard takes off her mask?

*could totally youtube it, but his connection is crap atm*

QUICKLY!


she said she wanted it to work... she said she was nervous because everyone that looks at her can never see past her mask to see the expression on her... face. *removes mask and gets pounced by the horny quarian*

:devil:

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why has bioware not posted something her yet to resolve some rumors about tali? this is like the longest thread and still no bioware help????


ME2 hasn't even been barely out for a week.


Well lets just thread going, bioware was probably like, meh will check on that thread once ME2 has been out awhile, when they come too check they will be like :blink:

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marshalleck wrote...

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RVonE, you're not the only Tali Love old-timer that thinks a few people are getting a bit...hasty...in this thread.


What do you mean?


I mean some people's responses to ideas or opinions they don't like are highly emotional and reactionary, and telling someone to get out of the thread because they have a different opinion is unnecessary.

It's a bit early to be making any claims regarding Tali. There are a number of reasons she could and should be on the crew in ME3, but there are other reasons she shouldn't. I don't think anyone can claim certainty on that topic. ME2 and ME3 are different games so you can't just make inferences about the final game based on what has come before.



Well, in that case, I agree with you.

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This thread has to set a record eventually.

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SerSpiffy wrote...

Kami102 wrote...

Aww crap -- Guys, What does Tali say in the scene just before Shepard takes off her mask?

*could totally youtube it, but his connection is crap atm*

QUICKLY!


she said she wanted it to work... she said she was nervous because everyone that looks at her can never see past her mask to see the expression on her... face. *removes mask and gets pounced by the horny quarian*

:devil:


I love when she jumps on you and you hear the slight *smooch* sound just before the camera fades to black.

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marshalleck wrote...

videowiz186 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

RVonE, you're not the only Tali Love old-timer that thinks a few people are getting a bit...hasty...in this thread.


What do you mean?


I mean some people's responses to ideas or opinions they don't like are highly emotional and reactionary, and telling someone to get out of the thread because they have a different opinion is unnecessary.

It's a bit early to be making any claims regarding Tali. There are a number of reasons she could and should be on the crew in ME3, but there are other reasons she shouldn't. I don't think anyone can claim certainty on that topic. ME2 and ME3 are different games so you can't just make inferences about the final game based on what has come before.



no sir, she will be in ME3 because shes an LI and its confirmed in interviews that if you had an LI in ME1 and one in ME2 there will be "reprecussions" in ME3 therefore she is in ME3, we are merely debating why she should be a squad mate...

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ok im starting another run with my ME2 guy

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[size=1]I heard that
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Casey Hudson has confirmed that if the threadnaught reaches 1000 pages, Tali will be available as a LI to female Shepards and in the case of a male Shepard, they will be able to marry, have kids and live happily ever after.

Modifié par Ackillez, 06 février 2010 - 12:50 .


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RVonE wrote...

Litos456 wrote...

RVonE wrote...

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And since Tali CAN be killed in ME2, it follows that she will not be a major character in ME3. This is not what I want, but it seems to be the obvious route. If she survives in your game she'll have a cameo: Tali will return to the migrant fleet to take her father's place on the admiralty board.
...Now I'm depressed.

I really don't think so.  Almost every character can be dead now, except for Liara.
They are NOT going to come up with an entirely new cast and relegate everyone else to cameos.  There are many good reasons for this.
1) It would be more work to invent a lot of new characters rather than simply including continuations for the previous ones, even if not all of them are seen by some players (just increases replay value anyway)
2) It makes almost all of the choices and quests we undertake in ME2 completely meaningless
3) Bioware is a developer than builds RPGs on the backs of its stellar characters; removing all the characters that we've gotten to know and love decreases players emotional involvement in the story.
4) It doesn't make sense, story-wise, that the loyal crew you spent a whole game building would simply leave.
5) This is a trilogy, and the last chapter of a trilogy is typically about resolution.  The final battle happens and the relationships between the characters are worked out.  This is not the time to be starting up new relationships.
6) There has already apparently been an interview where a Bioware dude said to expect the same characters, maybe with a couple new faces

I'm not saying that everyone will be reduced to cameo status; I'm saying that Tali will be.
1. Yes. But we've seen them do it before. Remember Mass Effect 2? Remember how there are a ton of new character in that game? Remember how most ME1 characters got sidelined ("to make sure they won't die" - which is just marketing bullsh**)?
2. Yes. Remember how a lot of things you did in ME1 hardly affect events in ME2?
3. Really? So how come they sidelined most of their great characters from ME1? Sales figures show that people don't really care.
4. Indeed. Remember ME1 -> ME2. Yeah...
5. True. Like I said, I don't think the entire cast will be cameo'd; but Tali will.
6. A "couple of new faces"? Really? That would underscore my point.
Again, I'm not saying that all characters from ME1 and ME2 will get the cold shoulder, but I also don't think it is wise to think that BioWare will make the ultimate fanservice game which includes all the characters from the first two games. That's just way too many characters; no way they will be able to fit them all in. Therefore, some characters have to go. Since BioWare has been touting how the ME1 characters were only sidelined for a while ("so they will be sure they survive") it has to be a part of the ME2 cast that will be returning as cameos. Tali is an obvious candidate because of the story hooks that are in place. Also, she and Garrus are the only two characters who have had two full games worth of time to be developed as characters. Writing story is hard for characters that have been so extensively developed. All other characters have only been on the team for one game, so there is a lot more room writers to come up with new story material for these characters.
Don't say that Tali will return because BioWare relies on its stellar characters. Wrex was one of the most popular characters of ME1; look at what happened to him. BioWare will make the game they want to make, regardless of what fans think--because they know that fans will eventually accept it anyway (have you seen ME2's sales figures?)
Again, I want Tali to be in ME3 more than anything else (I was very active in the old forums in the Tali love threads before she was a love interest) but I'm not going to deny the writing on the wall. I hope for a glorious last game with Tali, but I expect it to not happen.


Thank you for this post, although we are pretty sure and have reasons to back our concerns up, that she will be back with a major role in ME3.
I will now escort you out of this thread, sir.
My point is, what you're saying is wrong. They won't just push Tali off the cliff like that, same with Garrus. The reason they put them in ME2 on the first place is because they were most popular, which is why they'll continue with them.
You'll see. Just wait.

I pray to god you are right. But it's just silly to say that you know I'm wrong. I mean, I remember people saying we were wrong when we said that Liara would probably be a cameo in ME2.

Also, I don't understand why you would want me out of this thread. I mean, up untill a couple of weeks ago I enjoyed being a very active member of the Tali community (I've been onboard since summer 2007). I go on hiatus for a bit to play the game and all of the sudden you "are pretty sure and have reasons" to know she'll have a major role in ME3, and I have to leave the thread... Wow. Things change around here quickly.


Don't let it get to you. No one in this thread, not even Gay Warden who is the OP, has any legitimate authority to kick you nor anyone else out of the thread. That would be up to BioWare staff members and their moderators. I have seen no sign of them on this thread this past week, if at any point since the thread's inception.

I think some people have become quite fond of using certain lines such as the "let me escort you out, sir", etc. because one person used it and they thought it was cool and are now using it as well. Good intentions perhaps but somewhat overzealous in its application. Again, they have no legitimate authority nor does anyone else in this thread so we are all welcome to stay here. If someone has a real problem with you or anyone else just ask them to take it up with a true mod or BioWare staff member and you can discuss it internally. This is just chest beating and testosterone fueled bravado, in my opinion.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 06 février 2010 - 12:48 .


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Ackillez wrote...

[size=1]I heard that
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Casey Hudson has confirmed that if the threadnaught reaches 1000 pages, Tali will be available as a LI to female Shepards and in the case of a male Shepard, they will be able to marry, have kids and live happily ever after.

 
u sure?

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i still think she should be hederosexual

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Handren wrote...

SerSpiffy wrote...

Kami102 wrote...

Aww crap -- Guys, What does Tali say in the scene just before Shepard takes off her mask?

*could totally youtube it, but his connection is crap atm*

QUICKLY!


she said she wanted it to work... she said she was nervous because everyone that looks at her can never see past her mask to see the expression on her... face. *removes mask and gets pounced by the horny quarian*

:devil:


I love when she jumps on you and you hear the slight *smooch* sound just before the camera fades to black.

lol agreed, its like she was super nervous but when the helmet came of she lost control and just wanted you......are she has a face like a thresher maw and was trying to eat you.........now im scared.....Posted Image

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Admiral-165 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

videowiz186 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

RVonE, you're not the only Tali Love old-timer that thinks a few people are getting a bit...hasty...in this thread.


What do you mean?


I mean some people's responses to ideas or opinions they don't like are highly emotional and reactionary, and telling someone to get out of the thread because they have a different opinion is unnecessary.

It's a bit early to be making any claims regarding Tali. There are a number of reasons she could and should be on the crew in ME3, but there are other reasons she shouldn't. I don't think anyone can claim certainty on that topic. ME2 and ME3 are different games so you can't just make inferences about the final game based on what has come before.



no sir, she will be in ME3 because shes an LI and its confirmed in interviews that if you had an LI in ME1 and one in ME2 there will be "reprecussions" in ME3 therefore she is in ME3, we are merely debating why she should be a squad mate...


I understand. I'm saying it can go either way. Nothing has been confirmed regarding squad mate status.

Having repercussions with ME1 LI doesn't mean Tali will be in the squad. While I certainly hope she is, I don't think it's guaranteed and it certainly hasn't been confirmed.

What people should be doing is supporting all the previous LI returns as potential squad members, because once any of them get axed from the final game of the trilogy, it opens the possibility of it happening to Tali. :(

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Ackillez wrote...

[size=1]I heard that
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Casey Hudson has confirmed that if the threadnaught reaches 1000 pages, Tali will be available as a LI to female Shepards and in the case of a male Shepard, they will be able to marry, have kids and live happily ever after.


Proof please.

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deusofnull wrote...

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Getchyour space elves outa my tali thread.  Otherthan that, its perfect.
Plus, in one of the books its said that quarians dont have visible ears.



Oh my. She does look lovely - space elf ears and all!:wub:

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the postman45 wrote...

Ackillez wrote...

[size=1]I heard that
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Casey Hudson has confirmed that if the threadnaught reaches 1000 pages, Tali will be available as a LI to female Shepards and in the case of a male Shepard, they will be able to marry, have kids and live happily ever after.

 
u sure?


no, he just saying that to get more people to post.

oh i also heard Casey Hudson say that if you post more spam Ackillez then you'll be reported and banned...

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Litos456 wrote...

TheSorrow1175 wrote...

videowiz186 wrote...

Sageless Ranger wrote...

Another question, how would you like Tali's romance to unfold, and no I don't want people giving a play play bedroom scene -_- while it would be cool to see a Tali scene ME1 style, (she would finally be rid of that suit yay!) but rather what kind of unique expierences would you and Tali have? Have a home on her world etc.


I'm really not sure. I want the end of it to be Tali and Shepard living on the homeworld together, but I'm not sure how the romance would play out before that. Any suggestions?


not exactly a creative writer extraordinare, but heres my idea
my version assumes the everyone made it and that Tali was acquitted

After the destruction/capture of the collector base, Tali and Shepard continues to grow closer, and we learn about Tali's life before the mission, about her life on the flotilla, her pilgrimmage before she met Shep, about her father, and what she's been doing in the 2 years that Shep was dead. Every so often, they take the risk to get together as they did before the collector mission. Tali begins to regain her immune system through exposure with Shepard and immunity therapy with Mordin. At some point leading up to the final confrontation with the Reapers, the geth, through Legion, announce that their 'Dyson sphere' project is complete, and that they are withdrawing from the quarian homeworld. Tali asks Shep to come with her and help secure the planet for the Migrant Fleet. The quarians begin to come back, with Mardin setting up a clinic planetside to help them to bring their immune systems back up to snuff. As the final confrontation approaches, Shepard begins gathering all his allies together, including the krogan (with Wrex having united them), the rachni, the geth, and all the council races. The battle is long and difficult, with many dying. The Reapers are finally destroyed with heavy losses, and all the races begin to rebuild. Shepard is idolized for his work beating the Reapers and is offered a position at the top, but decline so that he can be with Tali. They go back, build a house on the homeworld, and get (married?). The quarians immune systems have adapted to the point where they no longer need the suits on there own world. They  then find an orphan quarian whos parents were killed in the fighting, and decide to raise it as their own.

And thats about it. Like I said, not a writer by any stretch. Only thing I share with Drew Karpyshyn is a last name with only one vowel. Just thought I'd give it a whirl. Lemme know what you think^_^


Thank you ,best suggestion out there. I hate poetism, so I disliked the one given before this.
The only thing that's unrealistic is that Quarians wouldn't be able to adapt enough to take off their suits in Shepard's lifetime.


Recall that Tali says that it is possible for quarians living now to be able to 'watch a sunrise without a mask', but only if they take back their homeworld. besides, we speak of a universe where they were able to almost entirely sterilize an entire species in less than a few years. clearly they have the technology. mordin can do it

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how do u play ur guy through aigain

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It's amazing that so few trolls and haters have come and tried to post on this thread. And sometimes we even convert them. But I think everyone here is really awesome for that. I'm glad to have been able to be a part of this thread.

Modifié par videowiz186, 06 février 2010 - 12:08 .


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Sageless Ranger wrote...

SgTKilmor wrote...

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Does anyone else find the other fan threads funny? Tali's will be at 300 pages around 3am, where as the other threads have died down, or just died at 15 pages haha


They are not as dedicated as the us Tali fans ^_^ 


But, by dedicated, you mean helplessly obessed Posted Image

I can't be the only one. Posted Image


*sigh* yes, I think I have literally fallen in love with a  fictional character:crying:


You are not alone in that regard. I feel it too.

It's a bit of a tough nut to crack because there is no way to successfully advance it (not without some MAJOR advances in robotics and AI application programs). Even then it wouldn't actually be "Tali" as the flesh and blood individual we have come to perceive her as. Genetic experimentation perhaps? Highly complicated and prone to serious health risks, not to mention many would probably consider it unethical.

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marshalleck wrote...
I understand. I'm saying it can go either way. Nothing has been confirmed regarding squad mate status.

Having repercussions with ME1 LI doesn't mean Tali will be in the squad. While I certainly hope she is, I don't think it's guaranteed and it certainly hasn't been confirmed.

What people should be doing is supporting all the previous LI returns as potential squad members, because once any of them get axed from the final game of the trilogy, it opens the possibility of it happening to Tali. :(


yeah i realize that and that;s why i post here to keep the hope that she will be a squad mate in ME3 alive.

to explain more: if she's just in ME3 as a continued love interest then it just seems like you drop by her room and stay the night then leave the next morning... and that's not realistic (or i guess it's not what real love is)

which is why she should be with Shepard.

so what you're saying is true but if BW has any sense then they'll make her a team mate.

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videowiz186 wrote...

It's amazing that so few trolls and haters have come and tried to post on this thread. And sometimes we even convert them. But I think everyone here is really awesome for that. I'm glad to have been able to be a part of this thread.


Your acting like your saying your goodbyes, well, it's not even close yet. Thought, we are running out things to talk about related to Tali... Posted Image

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Admiral-165 wrote...

BLACKOUT228 wrote...

I love all the ideas for how the game may end. But I have 100% faith in Bioware. They had this set as a trilogy to begin with. I'm sure their amazing story telling skills are at work right now designing an epic and mind blowing ending. How ever they decide to end the game will work for me. Now if 2012 or whenever its coming out will hurry up and get here...


if there's any company that can Start, Continue and Finish an Epic Sci-Fi Action-RPG Trilogy it's Bioware...

Made in Canada BTW...


It occured to me a short while ago that there might be a ground swell of interest in more sci-fi RPG'ing set in the ME universe. How about being able to pick your own alien species and class the way we are accustomed to with RPGs in medieval-settings? Anyone fancy being a Krogan battlemaster or warlord? No? Ok, how about a lithe and femme fatal Asari commando? I think such a game, even if closer to more "standard RPG fare", would sell like hotcakes on the backs of ME1,2 & 3.

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SgTKilmor wrote...

videowiz186 wrote...

It's amazing that so few trolls and haters have come and tried to post on this thread. And sometimes we even convert them. But I think everyone here is really awesome for that. I'm glad to have been able to be a part of this thread.


Your acting like your saying your goodbyes, well, it's not even close yet. Thought, we are running out things to talk about related to Tali... Posted Image




gasp that will never happen....

um she has... :?. um.. .. :o... 5 boobs /  // you only see 2 thow:huh::huh: dont ask why