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[Admiral-165]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Admiral-165 wrote...

BLACKOUT228 wrote...

I love all the ideas for how the game may end. But I have 100% faith in Bioware. They had this set as a trilogy to begin with. I'm sure their amazing story telling skills are at work right now designing an epic and mind blowing ending. How ever they decide to end the game will work for me. Now if 2012 or whenever its coming out will hurry up and get here...

if there's any company that can Start, Continue and Finish an Epic Sci-Fi Action-RPG Trilogy it's Bioware...

Made in Canada BTW...

It occured to me a short while ago that there might be a ground swell of interest in more sci-fi RPG'ing set in the ME universe. How about being able to pick your own alien species and class the way we are accustomed to with RPGs in medieval-settings? Anyone fancy being a Krogan battlemaster or warlord? No? Ok, how about a lithe and femme fatal Asari commando? I think such a game, even if closer to more "standard RPG fare", would sell like hotcakes on the backs of ME1,2 & 3.

well i can say without a doubt there will be more games that have to do with the ME lore... how can BIoware give up this gigantic money-making machine they've created...
i hope there is some game where you can choose to be whatever race you want though... that'd be fun.

[Huacaya]

videowiz186 wrote...

It's amazing that so few trolls and haters have come and tried to post on this thread. And sometimes we even convert them. But I think everyone here is really awesome for that. I'm glad to have been able to be a part of this thread.

I agree. I think I've read 85% of this
thread and I can honestly say I only remember about 4 or 5 haters.
The power of Tali is incredible! And its not even deliberate, which I
think makes it all the more legitimate.

[marshalleck]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Admiral-165 wrote...

BLACKOUT228 wrote...

I love all the ideas for how the game may end. But I have 100% faith in Bioware. They had this set as a trilogy to begin with. I'm sure their amazing story telling skills are at work right now designing an epic and mind blowing ending. How ever they decide to end the game will work for me. Now if 2012 or whenever its coming out will hurry up and get here...

if there's any company that can Start, Continue and Finish an Epic Sci-Fi Action-RPG Trilogy it's Bioware...

Made in Canada BTW...

It occured to me a short while ago that there might be a ground swell of interest in more sci-fi RPG'ing set in the ME universe. How about being able to pick your own alien species and class the way we are accustomed to with RPGs in medieval-settings? Anyone fancy being a Krogan battlemaster or warlord? No? Ok, how about a lithe and femme fatal Asari commando? I think such a game, even if closer to more "standard RPG fare", would sell like hotcakes on the backs of ME1,2 & 3.

I'd love it if Bioware took the Origins concept from DAO and grafted it onto a next-gen Mass Effect game which is a story separate from Shepard's. I'd totally make a quarian engineer.

[The_KFD_Case]

Admiral-165 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

videowiz186 wrote...

Sageless Ranger wrote...

Another question, how would you like Tali's romance to unfold, and no I don't want people giving a play play bedroom scene while it would be cool to see a Tali scene ME1 style, (she would finally be rid of that suit yay!) but rather what kind of unique expierences would you and Tali have? Have a home on her world etc.

I'm really not sure. I want the end of it to be Tali and Shepard living on the homeworld together, but I'm not sure how the romance would play out before that. Any suggestions?

 


I would love to have Scene in ME 3  where you are helping the Quarins take back there home world. Tali went back to hellp her people to help with the effort. Her Squad gets pinned down and you get choose between breaking alot lot of intergalatic laws to pull her tail out the fire.  

"Shephard you come back for me.."

"I left you once ... never again..."

Shepard is an active spectre again. He is above intergalactic law and can do what he pleases as long as it doesn't result in the Council stripping him of his title.

maybe because he saves Tali his rank gets taken away? who knows?

Short of blowing up a space station in the process and igniting an intergalactic war between the Council and the Hegemon, I see little that would be of sufficient scale in a rescue operation of Tali which would warrant such drastic action from the Council. However, just about anything is plausible, if not perhaps quite believable.

[RVonE]

RVonE wrote...

Litos456 wrote...

RVonE wrote...

Pauravi wrote...

RVonE wrote...

And
since Tali CAN be killed in ME2, it follows that she will not be a
major character in ME3. This is not what I want, but it seems to be the
obvious route. If she survives in your game she'll have a cameo: Tali
will return to the migrant fleet to take her father's place on the
admiralty board.
...Now I'm depressed.

I really don't think so.  Almost every character can be dead now, except for Liara.
They
are NOT going to come up with an entirely new cast and relegate
everyone else to cameos.  There are many good reasons for this.
1)
It would be more work to invent a lot of new characters rather than
simply including continuations for the previous ones, even if not all
of them are seen by some players (just increases replay value anyway)
2) It makes almost all of the choices and quests we undertake in ME2 completely meaningless
3) Bioware
is a developer than builds RPGs on the backs of its stellar characters;
removing all the characters that we've gotten to know and love
decreases players emotional involvement in the story.
4) It doesn't make sense, story-wise, that the loyal crew you spent a whole game building would simply leave.
5) This
is a trilogy, and the last chapter of a trilogy is typically about
resolution.  The final battle happens and the relationships between the
characters are worked out.  This is not the time to be starting up new
relationships.
6) There has already apparently been an interview
where a Bioware dude said to expect the same characters, maybe with a
couple new faces

I'm not saying that everyone will be reduced to cameo status; I'm saying that Tali will be.
1.
Yes. But we've seen them do it before. Remember Mass Effect 2? Remember
how there are a ton of new character in that game? Remember how most
ME1 characters got sidelined ("to make sure they won't die" - which is
just marketing bullsh**)?
2. Yes. Remember how a lot of things you did in ME1 hardly affect events in ME2?
3. Really? So how come they sidelined most of their great characters from ME1? Sales figures show that people don't really care.
4. Indeed. Remember ME1 -> ME2. Yeah...
5. True. Like I said, I don't think the entire cast will be cameo'd; but Tali will.
6. A "couple of new faces"? Really? That would underscore my point.
Again,
I'm not saying that all characters from ME1 and ME2 will get the cold
shoulder, but I also don't think it is wise to think that BioWare will
make the ultimate fanservice game which includes all the characters
from the first two games. That's just way too many characters; no way
they will be able to fit them all in. Therefore, some characters have
to go. Since BioWare has been touting how the ME1 characters were only
sidelined for a while ("so they will be sure they survive") it has to
be a part of the ME2 cast that will be returning as cameos. Tali is an
obvious candidate because of the story hooks that are in place. Also,
she and Garrus are the only two characters who have had two full games
worth of time to be developed as characters. Writing story is hard for
characters that have been so extensively developed. All other
characters have only been on the team for one game, so there is a lot
more room writers to come up with new story material for these
characters.
Don't say that Tali will return because BioWare relies
on its stellar characters. Wrex was one of the most popular characters
of ME1; look at what happened to him. BioWare will make the game they
want to make, regardless of what fans think--because they know that
fans will eventually accept it anyway (have you seen ME2's sales
figures?)
Again, I want Tali to be in ME3 more than anything else (I
was very active in the old forums in the Tali love threads before she
was a love interest) but I'm not going to deny the writing on the wall.
I hope for a glorious last game with Tali, but I expect it to not
happen.

Thank you for this post, although we are pretty
sure and have reasons to back our concerns up, that she will be back
with a major role in ME3.
I will now escort you out of this thread, sir.
My
point is, what you're saying is wrong. They won't just push Tali off
the cliff like that, same with Garrus. The reason they put them in ME2
on the first place is because they were most popular, which is why
they'll continue with them.
You'll see. Just wait.

I
pray to god you are right. But it's just silly to say that you know I'm
wrong. I mean, I remember people saying we were wrong when we said that
Liara would probably be a cameo in ME2.

Also, I don't understand
why you would want me out of this thread. I mean, up untill a couple of
weeks ago I enjoyed being a very active member of the Tali community
(I've been onboard since summer 2007). I go on hiatus for a bit to play
the game and all of the sudden you "are pretty sure and have reasons"
to know she'll have a major role in ME3, and I have to leave the
thread... Wow. Things change around here quickly.

Litos456 wrote...

Apologies, the escort thing is an inside joke in the thread. We use that line to "escort" trollers or spammers. I used it here since you were extremely skeptic about Tali being in ME3

But anyway; Liara is different. First of all, she was never as awesome. Second of all, the circumstances are different. In ME1->ME2 the ship is destroyed and Shepard's gone for 2 years, everyone had to move on. That included Tali. And she continued to be like that until the second set of Dossiers. Liara however couldn't give up her work.
Now Tali is with Shepard, in a relationship, on the ship, 50% that she's exiled. I doubt she has or wants anywhere to go.

The point is not that Liara's case is different. The point, like Marshalleck just wrote, is that at this time it is impossible for any of us to claim what the status of Tali will be in ME3. I propose a certain outcome that is not preferable to most Talimancers but nevertheless should not be discounted as a possibility. We're a long way from seeing ME3 and it is unlikely that much has been set in stone, so a lot can happen--good and bad.

As for your inside joke (an inside joke in a thread that is not even a week old, really?), I understand what you meant by escorting me out. I'm just flabbergasted by the fact that you are so eager to conclude that I'm a troll without considering what is said; it makes Talimancers come across as a bunch of zealots.

Modifié par RVonE, 06 février 2010 - 12:21 .

[The_KFD_Case]

Admiral-165 wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

Admiral-165 wrote...

BLACKOUT228 wrote...

I love all the ideas for how the game may end. But I have 100% faith in Bioware. They had this set as a trilogy to begin with. I'm sure their amazing story telling skills are at work right now designing an epic and mind blowing ending. How ever they decide to end the game will work for me. Now if 2012 or whenever its coming out will hurry up and get here...

if there's any company that can Start, Continue and Finish an Epic Sci-Fi Action-RPG Trilogy it's Bioware...

Made in Canada BTW...

mass effect and maple syrup are the only good things to come out of canada



and tali <3:D

I'll ignore this comment to prevent a flame war. you really don;t know how much Canada has done for thw world...

I tend to have a positive image of Canada, so tell me, how much has Canada done for the world?

[Huacaya]

The_KFD_Case wrote...
Short
of blowing up a space station in the process and igniting an
intergalactic war between the Council and the Hegemon, I see little
that would be of sufficient scale in a rescue operation of Tali which
would warrant such drastic action from the Council. However, just
about anything is plausible, if not perhaps quite
believable.

I don't think its that unbelievable.
Most of Tali's action revolve around assisting the migrant fleet.
What if this brings her into direct conflict with the Council?
Shepard will be between a rock and a hard place if she asks for help
in a way that directly contradicts the Council.

[The Quarian Sympathizer]

243 pages!



KEELAH!

[The_KFD_Case]

BLACKOUT228 wrote...

I love all the ideas for how the game may end. But I have 100% faith in Bioware. They had this set as a trilogy to begin with. I'm sure their amazing story telling skills are at work right now designing an epic and mind blowing ending. How ever they decide to end the game will work for me. Now if 2012 or whenever its coming out will hurry up and get here...

Agreed. I'm aiming for sometime in late autumn or perhaps winter of 2011. BioWare has apparently confirmed that ME3 will not have a graphics overhaul (doesn't need it either, IMO) and will be extensively focusing on the actual story and gameplay. In light of the fact that we have just barely craked open the month of Feb. in 2010 that should provide BioWare with at least 1½ years to prepare, cook and serve ME3.

[RVonE]

marshalleck wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Admiral-165 wrote...

BLACKOUT228 wrote...

I love all the ideas for how the game may end. But I have 100% faith in Bioware. They had this set as a trilogy to begin with. I'm sure their amazing story telling skills are at work right now designing an epic and mind blowing ending. How ever they decide to end the game will work for me. Now if 2012 or whenever its coming out will hurry up and get here...

if there's any company that can Start, Continue and Finish an Epic Sci-Fi Action-RPG Trilogy it's Bioware...

Made in Canada BTW...

It occured to me a short while ago that there might be a ground swell of interest in more sci-fi RPG'ing set in the ME universe. How about being able to pick your own alien species and class the way we are accustomed to with RPGs in medieval-settings? Anyone fancy being a Krogan battlemaster or warlord? No? Ok, how about a lithe and femme fatal Asari commando? I think such a game, even if closer to more "standard RPG fare", would sell like hotcakes on the backs of ME1,2 & 3.

I'd love it if Bioware took the Origins concept from DAO and grafted it onto a next-gen Mass Effect game which is a story separate from Shepard's. I'd totally make a quarian engineer.

A Quarian machinist!
Yeah, that actually sounds like something that could be really cool.

[Huacaya]

I've never been a grammar **** before, an I'm far from perfect in that regard, but Tali should always be spelt with a capital T.



(EDIT: lol, a certain German political
parties name is obscene.)

Modifié par Huacaya, 06 février 2010 - 12:23 .

[Admiral-165]

The_KFD_Case wrote...
I tend to have a positive image of Canada, so tell me, how much has Canada done for the world?

lol you really wanna hear it?

[TheSorrow1175]

We are now at 6061 posts. This is madness

[marshalleck]

RVonE wrote...

A Quarian machinist! ../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png
Yeah, that actually sounds like something that could be
really cool.

I want to make my own Lemm.

Modifié par marshalleck, 06 février 2010 - 12:22 .

[The Quarian Sympathizer]

Mass Effect MMO, imo.



Maybe by 2020...

[Admiral-165]

Huacaya wrote...

I've never been a grammar **** before, an I'm far from perfect in that regard, but Tali should always be spelt with a capital T.

and also Quarians in the game is never capitalized in the subtitles...

[Handren]

TheSorrow1175 wrote...

We are now at 6061 posts. This is madness

Madness?

THIS..

IS..


TALI!!!!!!!!!!

*Kicks thesorrow1175 down a pit*

[marshalleck]

Admiral-165 wrote...

Huacaya wrote...

I've never been a grammar **** before, an I'm far from perfect in that regard, but Tali should always be spelt with a capital T.

and also Quarians in the game is never capitalized in the subtitles...

None of the names of species are. Only Protheans and Reapers are capitalized.

[TheSorrow1175]

Also, I'm a member of 3 separate Tali/Garrus support groups which have a combined membership total of 1016 members. Bioware has created something, and only 2 weeks after the game has released

[Crackseed]

marshalleck wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Admiral-165 wrote...

BLACKOUT228 wrote...

I love all the ideas for how the game may end. But I have 100% faith in Bioware. They had this set as a trilogy to begin with. I'm sure their amazing story telling skills are at work right now designing an epic and mind blowing ending. How ever they decide to end the game will work for me. Now if 2012 or whenever its coming out will hurry up and get here...

if there's any company that can Start, Continue and Finish an Epic Sci-Fi Action-RPG Trilogy it's Bioware...

Made in Canada BTW...

It occured to me a short while ago that there might be a ground swell of interest in more sci-fi RPG'ing set in the ME universe. How about being able to pick your own alien species and class the way we are accustomed to with RPGs in medieval-settings? Anyone fancy being a Krogan battlemaster or warlord? No? Ok, how about a lithe and femme fatal Asari commando? I think such a game, even if closer to more "standard RPG fare", would sell like hotcakes on the backs of ME1,2 & 3.

I'd love it if Bioware took the Origins concept from DAO and grafted it onto a next-gen Mass Effect game which is a story separate from Shepard's. I'd totally make a quarian engineer.

This would be pretty fun, though I think if there's one thing I want to see for more "interaction/build-up" it's more conversation topics/choices. ME2 did well overall on that front, especially as the characters ARE interesting but when you compare it to the depth you can explore/talk to party members in DA:O, it could use a bit of work.

[Admiral-165]

marshalleck wrote...

Admiral-165 wrote...

Huacaya wrote...

I've never been a grammar **** before, an I'm far from perfect in that regard, but Tali should always be spelt with a capital T.

and also Quarians in the game is never capitalized in the subtitles...

None of the names of species are. Only Protheans and Reapers are capitalized.

Really? well i only ever payed attention to the Quarians...

[TheSorrow1175]

Handren wrote...

TheSorrow1175 wrote...

We are now at 6061 posts. This is madness

Madness?

THIS..

IS..


TALI!!!!!!!!!!

*Kicks thesorrow1175 down a pit*

:crying:Why?