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[TheSorrow1175]

crimsoncobra57 wrote...

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...
If you make the LI more engaging you're boarering on a dating sim which I believe is 98% not likely for Bio Ware. But find somebody to make a flash game or something and there ya go.

Well, by more engaging.. I mean what they did with ME2. Make the character more real, and the emotions you feel for that character real. Most LI's in RPG's are good, but for most people I think they go with the relationship just.. because they can. It's in the game, and they can get a kiss from a pretty lady, why not?

Tali's character is designed in a way, that it's truly engaging.. It's not like you spend the whole game pampering her, and buying her gifts. You just have a true connection (or at least I do), which doesn't feel fake or forced. That's all I meant by that. By no means do I feel it needs to get more like a dating sim, I just don't want the feeling that was mastered in ME2 to be lost for ME3. The relationship with Shep & Tali has an incredible ammount of potential.. Call me biased, but I'd say it has the most of any of the LI's.
I'm not trying to decide how they should do it, either. I've never taken a stance on how I hope the relationship ends, or how it plays out.. I just want it to be kept alive, and strong. How they do it is completely up to them; something tells me that the writers know what they are doing

It has the most of it because Tali isn't a character you persue just to see naked or whats under the mask (at least not after the first time). There's no payoff like that here, and you have to know it. It's precisely why Tali's romance is the greatest in the game. You know from the get-go that there's no adult payoff in it for pursuing a relationship with her. And here's the thing:

You
Still
Want
To
Anyway

Her dialog is so perfectly written, you feel a connection to her that transcends anything in any other game out there. Equating further development of the relationship to a dating sim cheapens her so very much. Think not of such things

[The_KFD_Case]

Huacaya wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...
They just launched ME2 about two weeks ago in North America and a week and a half ago in Europe. It's way too early to realistically expect them to come out with public announcements about ME3. I'd be thrilled if they did (providing it's pleasant news) but it's unlikely to occur based on historic precedent.

I've heard that the 'crunch' time in game development is extremely brutal. To the point of destroying
relationships and the health of those involved. I honestly think that the Bioware team deserve a vacation at this point for doing what they did. I can wait.

Yeah, I've come across such horror stories as well. While the pay may not be bad for many of them, I doubt all but a few make out like bandits. I'm not convinced I would enjoy that type of work environment. I've had high stress jobs and can cope with it but it does affect my spirit. Work hard for a fair wage and remember to take time to kick back and relax with the things and people you care about. Emergency work sessions on occasion are okay but it shouldn't become a consistent practice, IMO. It strains the work force too much, too quickly possibly hurting productivity further down the line.

[RazorStar]

So...many...pages..

[Indie Thompson]

crimsoncobra57 wrote...

Indie Thompson wrote...



OK, so this is my first Tali drawing. I am planing to do more. This one is just a try, havent drawn in quite a few years. I used my desktop as reference. So just some feedback would be nice. And i think i am trying to do one of her without the mask.

PS: the pic is a bit to the side due to the fact that my silly scanner repositioned it on its own.

That looks really good! I hope you post any more you draw

Thanks =)
And as soon as i make some more i will post them up here.

[The_KFD_Case]

Sageless Ranger wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

deathscythehellcustom wrote...

you know we never got to see under talis mask what her face looks like so i kinda think talis race might be evoled from birds but who knows for all we know her whole race could be a race of evoled space slugs till we see her face without the mask no one will know what her race is

That's my suspicion as well, though (hopefully) far more humanoid looking after the course of evolution. Interestingly it does appear that quarians have a mammary system in place (i.e. examine their females) which would be decidely unbird-like by Earth standards, Then again, they do hail from a different planet so evolution may have taken an entirely different path.

Tali being part avian has been discussed may times, but I am pretty sure in the books it says that quarians resemble humans, whether this means that they are bird-like humanoids I have no clue  

.... BIG BIRD! Say it ain't so.

[Huacaya]

TheSorrow1175 wrote...

Her dialog is so perfectly written, you feel a connection to her that transcends anything in any other game out there. Equating further development of the relationship to a dating sim cheapens her so very much. Think not of such things

I agree without reservation.
I would pursue the relationship even if from the start it was made clear the she could never take her suit off for any reason.

[The_KFD_Case]

MarineBorn wrote...

i say we all send a letter to congress asking them to devote the last of are treasury to bioware so that they can speed up Mass effect3....omg if they said they were all ready done and it was on its way to the stores......i would literaly find the bioware head dude and kneel before his awsomeness

Hate to be a killjoy but that's not gonna happen. If it did happen I would want to know what sort of discount the taxpayers funding the venture could expect to receive on the final product? But we are steering dangerously close to politics which is a forum no-no (though I enjoy discussing it).

Anyone know the rough life expectancy of quarians? I seem to recall having read it was ca. 85 years somewhere, but I might be fooling myself.

[The_KFD_Case]

The Quarian Sympathizer wrote...

the postman45 wrote...

U CAN CUDDLE IN DIFFERANT PERSPECTIVES??

I'm not sure about that. However, I don't like the couch scene. I mean it looks like Tali is having a riviting conversation with Shepard but my Shepard just sits there and stares at her blankly. It's kinda saddening.

Like a proper married couple then?  I jest! I jest! (somewhat)

[TheSorrow1175]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

i say we all send a letter to congress asking them to devote the last of are treasury to bioware so that they can speed up Mass effect3....omg if they said they were all ready done and it was on its way to the stores......i would literaly find the bioware head dude and kneel before his awsomeness

Hate to be a killjoy but that's not gonna happen. If it did happen I would want to know what sort of discount the taxpayers funding the venture could expect to receive on the final product? But we are steering dangerously close to politics which is a forum no-no (though I enjoy discussing it).

Anyone know the rough life expectancy of quarians? I seem to recall having read it was ca. 85 years somewhere, but I might be fooling myself.

I;m not all that concerned about how long it takes, in fact, I kinda hope they take their time with it. It needs to be pitch-perfect, especially if its to be the laast of its kind

[The Quarian Sympathizer]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

i say we all send a letter to congress asking them to devote the last of are treasury to bioware so that they can speed up Mass effect3....omg if they said they were all ready done and it was on its way to the stores......i would literaly find the bioware head dude and kneel before his awsomeness

Hate to be a killjoy but that's not gonna happen. If it did happen I would want to know what sort of discount the taxpayers funding the venture could expect to receive on the final product? But we are steering dangerously close to politics which is a forum no-no (though I enjoy discussing it).

Anyone know the rough life expectancy of quarians? I seem to recall having read it was ca. 85 years somewhere, but I might be fooling myself.

85 is all?
Well they have it better than the Salarians.

[Brahlis]

Do these forums have a limit for the amount of pages for a single thread?

[CrookedAsylum]

Hey, stopping in from the Thane Fanclub thread to offer support and all that jazz. (: Hope for the best for Tali and all the Tali fans. And! For my own like of Tali. I hope her face isn't revealed. Maybe a Quarian's face, but not Tali's.

[The_KFD_Case]

Admiral-165 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

deathscythehellcustom wrote...

you know we never got to see under talis mask what her face looks like so i kinda think talis race might be evoled from birds but who knows for all we know her whole race could be a race of evoled space slugs till we see her face without the mask no one will know what her race is

That's my suspicion as well, though (hopefully) far more humanoid looking after the course of evolution. Interestingly it does appear that quarians have a mammary system in place (i.e. examine their females) which would be decidely unbird-like by Earth standards, Then again, they do hail from a different planet so evolution may have taken an entirely different path.

just cause she has 2 toes doesn't mean shes a chicken... it's confirmed she has lips, teeth, eyes, eye lids, and tear ducts. sounds Humanoid to me...

That it does, and it sounds damn good to me!

[Himmelstor]

That...is near 100 more pages...

And I read in the codex that the average life expectancy is equivalent to humans'

[marshalleck]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

Hey, stopping in from the Thane Fanclub thread to offer support and all that jazz. (: Hope for the best for Tali and all the Tali fans. And! For my own like of Tali. I hope her face isn't revealed. Maybe a Quarian's face, but not Tali's.

Likewise. Here's to a satisfying resolution to all the love interests throughout the trilogy.

[spuddragg]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Huacaya wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...
They just launched ME2 about two weeks ago in North America and a week and a half ago in Europe. It's way too early to realistically expect them to come out with public announcements about ME3. I'd be thrilled if they did (providing it's pleasant news) but it's unlikely to occur based on historic precedent.

I've heard that the 'crunch' time in game development is extremely brutal. To the point of destroying
relationships and the health of those involved. I honestly think that the Bioware team deserve a vacation at this point for doing what they did. I can wait.

Yeah, I've come across such horror stories as well. While the pay may not be bad for many of them, I doubt all but a few make out like bandits. I'm not convinced I would enjoy that type of work environment. I've had high stress jobs and can cope with it but it does affect my spirit. Work hard for a fair wage and remember to take time to kick back and relax with the things and people you care about. Emergency work sessions on occasion are okay but it shouldn't become a consistent practice, IMO. It strains the work force too much, too quickly possibly hurting productivity further down the line.

Well bioware did abandon kotor 2 because the publisher rushed the release so maybe it isn't that bad at bioware.  They are a company that will extend the date if it isn't the product they want.

[TheSorrow1175]

Huacaya wrote...

TheSorrow1175 wrote...

Her dialog is so perfectly written, you feel a connection to her that transcends anything in any other game out there. Equating further development of the relationship to a dating sim cheapens her so very much. Think not of such things

I agree without reservation.
I would pursue the relationship even if from the start it was made clear the she could never take her suit off for any reason.

And that is the attitude I like to hear

[marshalleck]

spuddragg wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Huacaya wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...
They just launched ME2 about two weeks ago in North America and a week and a half ago in Europe. It's way too early to realistically expect them to come out with public announcements about ME3. I'd be thrilled if they did (providing it's pleasant news) but it's unlikely to occur based on historic precedent.

I've heard that the 'crunch' time in game development is extremely brutal. To the point of destroying
relationships and the health of those involved. I honestly think that the Bioware team deserve a vacation at this point for doing what they did. I can wait.

Yeah, I've come across such horror stories as well. While the pay may not be bad for many of them, I doubt all but a few make out like bandits. I'm not convinced I would enjoy that type of work environment. I've had high stress jobs and can cope with it but it does affect my spirit. Work hard for a fair wage and remember to take time to kick back and relax with the things and people you care about. Emergency work sessions on occasion are okay but it shouldn't become a consistent practice, IMO. It strains the work force too much, too quickly possibly hurting productivity further down the line.

Well bioware did abandon kotor 2 because the publisher rushed the release so maybe it isn't that bad at bioware.  They are a company that will extend the date if it isn't the product they want.

Bioware didn't make KOTOR 2, Obsidian did

[Himmelstor]

TheSorrow1175 wrote...

Huacaya wrote...

TheSorrow1175 wrote...

Her dialog is so perfectly written, you feel a connection to her that transcends anything in any other game out there. Equating further development of the relationship to a dating sim cheapens her so very much. Think not of such things

I agree without reservation.
I would pursue the relationship even if from the start it was made clear the she could never take her suit off for any reason.

And that is the attitude I like to hear

As all Tali fans like to hear...
Me included.

[Indie Thompson]

spuddragg wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Huacaya wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...
They just launched ME2 about two weeks ago in North America and a week and a half ago in Europe. It's way too early to realistically expect them to come out with public announcements about ME3. I'd be thrilled if they did (providing it's pleasant news) but it's unlikely to occur based on historic precedent.

I've heard that the 'crunch' time in game development is extremely brutal. To the point of destroying
relationships and the health of those involved. I honestly think that the Bioware team deserve a vacation at this point for doing what they did. I can wait.

Yeah, I've come across such horror stories as well. While the pay may not be bad for many of them, I doubt all but a few make out like bandits. I'm not convinced I would enjoy that type of work environment. I've had high stress jobs and can cope with it but it does affect my spirit. Work hard for a fair wage and remember to take time to kick back and relax with the things and people you care about. Emergency work sessions on occasion are okay but it shouldn't become a consistent practice, IMO. It strains the work force too much, too quickly possibly hurting productivity further down the line.

Well bioware did abandon kotor 2 because the publisher rushed the release so maybe it isn't that bad at bioware.  They are a company that will extend the date if it isn't the product they want.

It was like that with ME2 as well. I remember Evil Chris saying somewhere that they will publish the game when it is ready. And that is the reason it was published in January. BioWare has always been there to make sure that the game  is good and ready not rushed or anything. before they release.

[spuddragg]

marshalleck wrote...

spuddragg wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Huacaya wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...
They just launched ME2 about two weeks ago in North America and a week and a half ago in Europe. It's way too early to realistically expect them to come out with public announcements about ME3. I'd be thrilled if they did (providing it's pleasant news) but it's unlikely to occur based on historic precedent.

I've heard that the 'crunch' time in game development is extremely brutal. To the point of destroying
relationships and the health of those involved. I honestly think that the Bioware team deserve a vacation at this point for doing what they did. I can wait.

Yeah, I've come across such horror stories as well. While the pay may not be bad for many of them, I doubt all but a few make out like bandits. I'm not convinced I would enjoy that type of work environment. I've had high stress jobs and can cope with it but it does affect my spirit. Work hard for a fair wage and remember to take time to kick back and relax with the things and people you care about. Emergency work sessions on occasion are okay but it shouldn't become a consistent practice, IMO. It strains the work force too much, too quickly possibly hurting productivity further down the line.

Well bioware did abandon kotor 2 because the publisher rushed the release so maybe it isn't that bad at bioware.  They are a company that will extend the date if it isn't the product they want.

Bioware didn't make KOTOR 2, Obsidian did

Because Bioware backed out of the project.

[The_KFD_Case]

Admiral-165 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

im not saying bits about the new game its just.....i want to see what she looks like.hmmmm maby a expansion pack like everyone has been saying were you can like go do something for her like save another quarian spaceship and make her fall more deeply in love, i just hate having to start from the very begining of a relationship its like nothing is long term in this game when it comes to relationships...../sigh

I share your frustation, yet ironically it is precisely because BioWare wanted the love interests from ME1 to be long term that they weren't active to the same extent in ME2 because they wanted to ensure they would be alive for ME3 (you can kill every team member you acquire, including Shepard, in ME2 which will impact what happens in ME3).

Like they said on the Sci VS Fi video "Games can be emotinally fulfilling as a movie is"

ME1 was called out because of this yet they did it again in ME2 and it's great... it adds so much depth to the game.

Agreed. After returning from that brief year long spell of DRM insanity with EA, BioWare is once more my favourite developer now that sane DRM has been implemented which I feel does not infringe upon my private liberties and property (i.e. my PC). I still loooovee you BW!  MUAH! *big wet kiss* 

[Brahlis]

You all are braver than I. My Shepard would be hitting up Miranda then. No nookie makes Shepard a dull boy.

[nitefyre410]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Admiral-165 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

deathscythehellcustom wrote...

you know we never got to see under talis mask what her face looks like so i kinda think talis race might be evoled from birds but who knows for all we know her whole race could be a race of evoled space slugs till we see her face without the mask no one will know what her race is

That's my suspicion as well, though (hopefully) far more humanoid looking after the course of evolution. Interestingly it does appear that quarians have a mammary system in place (i.e. examine their females) which would be decidely unbird-like by Earth standards, Then again, they do hail from a different planet so evolution may have taken an entirely different path.

just cause she has 2 toes doesn't mean shes a chicken... it's confirmed she has lips, teeth, eyes, eye lids, and tear ducts. sounds Humanoid to me...

That it does, and it sounds damn good to me!

 

http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Quarian 


this  is all we know about Quarins so far... given the information in  article you can assumes she is basically humanoid in appearence. ....

I remeber reference being made that concept art for the Quarins had them looking like the Na'vi from Avatar

[The_KFD_Case]

Theronyll Itholien wrote...

the postman45 wrote...

SgTKilmor wrote...

Sageless Ranger wrote...

Keltoris wrote...

Swear this thread is going to get her killed.

I would be so pissed, sure in theory it would make a good story, but most likely people would rage like no other, and bioware would have created WWIII, rofl probably not that dramatic, but still. 

I could seem them doing that. I wouldn't be suprised.

weve got to think positivly in this thread

But it's true though. To remind us who's boss...

I would agree...and then I remember who ultimately provides the funds that pays for their salaries.... Both companies and consumers have leverage. Sometimes one more than other, but power is transferable - be it economic, military, political, cultural or intellectual, etc.