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[Himmelstor]

Litos456 wrote...

Alright let's stop this conversation... it's a flame war waiting to happen.

Concur. Apologies.

[FsDxRAGE]

The Gay Warden wrote...

Ooh, Tali fanfic, that reminds me.

I scrapped the other, I actually dreamt a good plot for a novel taking place after ME2. It has Kal'Reegar, and a romanced Shep and Tali. Expect it posted later in the OP.

im so glad i am not the only one dreaming about mass effect and Tali.

[Litos456]

Apologies accepted, Doctor. I do agree with your post though.

[Litos456]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

The Gay Warden wrote...

Ooh, Tali fanfic, that reminds me.

I scrapped the other, I actually dreamt a good plot for a novel taking place after ME2. It has Kal'Reegar, and a romanced Shep and Tali. Expect it posted later in the OP.

im so glad i am not the only one dreaming about mass effect and Tali.

Yeah I also dream about both. Hard to get her and the game out of my mind. Often I recall the sweet scenes between Shepard and Tali, they were just so amusing.

[The Gay Warden]

You can't help what you dream. But yes, I did dream a good plot for a novel, oddly.

[smore006]

Litos456 wrote...

I fully agree with you. I seriously can't take all the people who want same sex romance. This game, Bioware, isn't obligated to do it just because they want it, YET THEY BLAME THEM.

Besides, seriously, there's no way you can take Shepard seriously if he's gay/lesbian. He/she is not fully 100% what the player is. And it isn't just that. The characters have their own personality. They have their own sexual preferences.

You despise the very same argument some people here are using, namely that by the enormous scale of support shown here, they'd 'force' Bioware to include Tali in ME3. That may or may not be true, personally i think emphasizing the 'force' part, talking about the consequences (in case BW doesn't give Tali a big enough role), can very well invoke the opposite reaction from Bioware.


As for the gay/straight stuff, that's your personal opinion, to which you are certainly entitled to. But saying " there's no way you can take Shepard seriously" you seem to try to promote your opinion as the universal truth. Others may very well disagree, saying their Shepard is gay/lesbian and they most probably feel 'unloved' for the lack of such romance possibilities. If Bioware decides to add a gay/lesbian romance option, that's their decision, no one is forced to go there if (s)he doesn't want to. But if there is need for the option itself, i see no real reason why not to include.

Please don't take this post as an attack against yourself. I'm playing the devil's advocate here, saying we should be objective and treat everyone the same way as we expect ourselves to be treated. <-- this is my opinion. 
Also, there's a difference between an opinion and a fact. <-- this is a fact 

[Himmelstor]

antilles333 wrote...

OR I WILL ESCORT YOU OUT OF HERE.

Krogans, Turians, Vorcha all obvious threats.
Never see me coming.

[SgTKilmor]

I hardly remember my dreams, but I would not be surprised.

[FsDxRAGE]

you know you have played a good game when you dream about it

[Naltair]

This Tali thread scares me, but I admire everyone's zealous support of her character.

[Nightvision91]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

you know you have played a good game when you dream about it

Not if you had a dream about being abducted by Collectors haha.

[Elastica]

Yeah, I too had a dream about her after my first playthrough. Not a good one, tho. She died and I couldn't load a previous save while sleeping. -.-

[Pineconeboy]

Tali rules, but I think Bioware should do what they feel is best for their story rather than trying to bow to every fan whim. That never ends well.

[nitefyre410]

I have couple of Story Idea running around in my head, once I am done play ME 2 i will post a preview and see what you guys think...

[FsDxRAGE]

Nightvision91 wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

you know you have played a good game when you dream about it

Not if you had a dream about being abducted by Collectors haha.

i imagine that would be a dream where you wake up because the dream was hurting you. being turned into a gray liquid wouldn't be pleasent

[smore006]

The Gay Warden wrote...

Ooh, Tali fanfic, that reminds me.

I scrapped the other, I actually dreamt a good plot for a novel taking place after ME2. It has Kal'Reegar, and a romanced Shep and Tali. Expect it posted later in the OP.

Hope you mean to post it as link to your personal blog, right?
(Me here would like to see a nice and tidy forum so when the Evil Chris comes, he says "them Tali fans are cool indeed")

[Himmelstor]

Naltair wrote...

This Tali thread scares me, but I admire everyone's zealous support of her character.

Frightened of words? Requires serious help. Psychological issues. Yes. Yes.

Shepard: "For the love of god, take a breath!"

We want Tali back. We want no flaming. We have been reasonably successful.

And We Are Legion!

[perfectstranger84]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

you know you have played a good game when you dream about it

Have I fallen too far to rise
Been burning too long in the fire
Then it all falls down - Tearing the night away

It must be - Fever dreams

[PwrGetter]

Pineconeboy wrote...

Tali rules, but I think Bioware should do what they feel is best for their story rather than trying to bow to every fan whim. That never ends well.

Bioware will do what they feel is best, but they'll make compromises to please the fans.  Rabid fans can sometimes go a little overboard, but it doesn't make them less qualified to express what they want in ME3.  Once BioWare is back from vacation and working on ME3, they'll sure be eye'ing this thread, that's for sure.

[TheSorrow1175]

Himmelstor wrote...

Litos456 wrote...

Alright let's stop this conversation... it's a flame war waiting to happen.

Concur. Apologies.

we have an accord then

[Nightvision91]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

Nightvision91 wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

you know you have played a good game when you dream about it

Not if you had a dream about being abducted by Collectors haha.

i imagine that would be a dream where you wake up because the dream was hurting you. being turned into a gray liquid wouldn't be pleasent

I would hope it wouldn't be pleasent haha. The only ME dream I had was the drop on ILos.

[Litos456]

smore006 wrote...

Litos456 wrote...

I fully agree with you. I seriously can't take all the people who want same sex romance. This game, Bioware, isn't obligated to do it just because they want it, YET THEY BLAME THEM.

Besides, seriously, there's no way you can take Shepard seriously if he's gay/lesbian. He/she is not fully 100% what the player is. And it isn't just that. The characters have their own personality. They have their own sexual preferences.

You despise the very same argument some people here are using, namely that by the enormous scale of support shown here, they'd 'force' Bioware to include Tali in ME3. That may or may not be true, personally i think emphasizing the 'force' part, talking about the consequences (in case BW doesn't give Tali a big enough role), can very well invoke the opposite reaction from Bioware.


As for the gay/straight stuff, that's your personal opinion, to which you are certainly entitled to. But saying " there's no way you can take Shepard seriously" you seem to try to promote your opinion as the universal truth. Others may very well disagree, saying their Shepard is gay/lesbian and they most probably feel 'unloved' for the lack of such romance possibilities. If Bioware decides to add a gay/lesbian romance option, that's their decision, no one is forced to go there if (s)he doesn't want to. But if there is need for the option itself, i see no real reason why not to include.

Please don't take this post as an attack against yourself. I'm playing the devil's advocate here, saying we should be objective and treat everyone the same way as we expect ourselves to be treated. <-- this is my opinion. 
Also, there's a difference between an opinion and a fact. <-- this is a fact 

Sorry. I personally imply that Tali should be in ME3 by using facts as evidence, instead of pressuring Bioware to do it (I.E. her support for Shepard may prevent her from going back to the fleet).
Didn't want to spur up an argument. I was aware that would start something when I was posting it, but  was willing to take the risk. I like expressing my opinions in an open minded ready to take some flame way.

[Naltair]

Himmelstor wrote...

Naltair wrote...

This Tali thread scares me, but I admire everyone's zealous support of her character.

Frightened of words? Requires serious help. Psychological issues. Yes. Yes.

Shepard: "For the love of god, take a breath!"

We want Tali back. We want no flaming. We have been reasonably successful.

And We Are Legion!

It was not an attack, by any means.