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[Yazman]

GuyWithFace, I really think there's something there. Legion is unique among the Geth - he's the most advanced and by his own words he can operate alone. He can operate in complete isolation from the rest of the geth.

I think that he's developed an inking of individuality, and might be moving closer to that although he struggles with that very concept. It gets to a point where you can prod him about the N7 armour and notes that there's no reason for him to have picked that one over anything else, that there logically MUST be another reason that one was chosen.

And Legion just says something like "no data available." I think deep down he chose that himself, and the concept of Legion liking something and feeling something that Geth don't usually experience is something he struggles with and thats why he wouldn't admit to it.

Modifié par Yazman, 07 février 2010 - 07:19 .

[The_KFD_Case]

Rip504 wrote...

Wow Quarians tried to kill of Illegal AI who drove them from their planet...They are right in my eyes.

The AI the Quarians created wasn't illegal at the time. The pivotal difference between the Geth AI and other Council races' AIs, was that the Quarians allowed the Geth AI to upgrade itself.

[BigKahuna25]

Rip504 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

Legion also states that it is unlikly Geth and Quarians could live in peace together...

That's not what I took from it. What Legion states is that the Geth can not bring about peace on their own insinuating that the Quarians have to be willing to meet them halfway. Legion specifically states that the Geth do not judge the Quarians for acting/feeling the way they do since the Geth consider it to be a flaw in the programming as organics, and since the Geth appear to be firm believers in the school of thought that all species should determine their own future it doesn't seem like a problem for them to hand over the Quarian worlds which Legion mentions they don't use but simply clean up and take care of (much like they were originally programmed to do). The Geth only attacked because they were set upon by the Quarians first. Self-defence.

Bring him on Tali's loyalty mission talk to the Quarian Admiral chip chip or w.e. the one who supports peace,ask Legion what he thinks of peace...What I got from it was Geth do not trust organic life.Stats.

yeah he says how when the quarians thought they could win they attacked 100% of the time

[cdsmith0]

I let legion die....I didn't have any emotional connection to him because I cared about what tali thought in regards to him.

[The_KFD_Case]

Collider wrote...

I did like Governator did. I gave Legion to Cerberus. Tali had her father killed by the Geth. Her entire people are screwed over because of the Geth. And Shepard wants a Geth on the Normandy? Risky. I roleplayed as "myself" and I didn't recruit Legion, as I reasoned that I would be too suspicious of AI, especially the Geth who I fought along with Sovereign. In addition, there is the fact that Tali wouldn't be too keen on it. In ME3 I will support the Quarians against the Geth and hopefully Tali will have her homeworld back. Along with a house with Shepard.

Providing Legion is being truthful with Shepard, then it wasn't the Geth but the Heretics (corrupted former Geth) that did that.

What tipped the scales for me was the fact that Legion saved Shepard's life and his squad's (which included Tali) during the IFF mission.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 07 février 2010 - 07:22 .

[BigKahuna25]

well i'm off to poke around in other threads for a while, keep up the tali love.

[Rip504]

I thought the Heritics chose to join the Reapers???

[nitefyre410]

sergio71785 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

antilles333 wrote...

How come I have the feeling that the only thing the Quarians need to do is ask the Geth to leave their world? It seems so...weirdly possible lol.

We share that feeling. As long as the Geth are not attacked I don't think they would get in the way.

Yeah I agree. Geth are machines, their judgments are based on logic and outcome. There's no anger, hatred, or emotions.

I think the Geth would pretty much see it as logical for them to leave and let the Quarians back on to their homeworld. Geth can live anywhere, Quarians can't. Them leaving would also greatly reduce hostility between Quarians and Geth; peace is logical. 

Obviously, the Geth would also lose out on their facilities and installations on the planet, and this loss would be calculated against the benefits of letting the Quarians back on their planet. Maybe the Quarians can sweeten the deal by giving the Geth their flotilla ships and helping them move their stuff? 

  

Honestly  the geth don't need  recouses...  they are not even machines they are software. A Geth city is essential a server hub.   Also he meantions that Geth are working on making their own future... In theroy   the were always orginally designed to  server the  Quarins when the Quarins tried to shut them down the defend themselves out of self presservation.  What if they have been actually rebuilding and tending to the Quarin homeworld all this time.

Remember the Geth that attack with Saren where hetics, rebals.... they did not represent the majority..

okay this topic is about to get REAALY heavy. Cause  then you have to asked the question ...what diffines something being  'Life"

[GuyWithFace]

Yazman wrote...

GuyWithFace, I really think there's something there. Legion is unique among the Geth - he's the most advanced and by his own words he can operate alone. He can operate in complete isolation from the rest of the geth.

I think that he's developed an inking of individuality, and might be moving closer to that although he struggles with that very concept. It gets to a point where you can prod him about the N7 armour and notes that there's no reason for him to have picked that one over anything else, that there logically MUST be another reason that one was chosen.

And Legion just says something like "no data available." I think deep down he chose that himself, and the concept of Legion liking something and feeling something that Geth don't usually experience is something he struggles with and thats why he wouldn't admit to it.

Pretty much exactly what I meant!

But, to expand on that last point a bit. He could have chosen Shepard's former armor by 'himself,' but that doesn't mean the 'no data available' was a lie. For all we know, Legion, being a synthetic, could simply not *understand* why he chose that specific piece of scrap. We, however, do understand, having similar feelings ourselves on a day-to-day basis.

[crimsoncobra57]

I just finished up this piece of fan-art that I've been working on, and thought I'd post it before I go to bed.



And with that, I bid you all a good night. Keep the thread going strong ^^

[EDarkness]

It's hard to believe that this thread is now over 350 pages. Man, that's some serious dedication, there.



Anyway, to stay on topic, I think that Legion and Tali could be the ones to put things back together. Once people realize that he's not really a bad guy unlike the rest of the Geth. I'm hoping that they do allow the Quarians to find a decent home in the next game. Would make a nice ending to their story.

[The Gay Warden]

crimsoncobra57 wrote...

I just finished up this piece of fan-art that I've been working on, and thought I'd post it before I go to bed.



And with that, I bid you all a good night. Keep the thread going strong ^^

Pretty damn nice!

[smore006]

I'm back after 8 hours... Would someone mind summarizing the highlights of the last 50 pages? =)

Edit: *agrees with The Gay Warden about the fanart*

Modifié par smore006, 07 février 2010 - 07:26 .

[Indie Thompson]

crimsoncobra57 wrote...

I just finished up this piece of fan-art that I've been working on, and thought I'd post it before I go to bed.



And with that, I bid you all a good night. Keep the thread going strong ^^

Hey, that is a pretty darn good picture mate. Well done.

[The_KFD_Case]

Indie Thompson wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

GuyWithFace wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

I remember reading that post of yours. I wanted to agree with you at the time but let it go, but what the heck! Yeah, my next girlfriend, wherever she may be and whomever she may be, has her work cut out for her (then again, that may very well be the case for me as well in regards to getting on her good side).

Good luck to you with that!

I actually have a friend of the opposite sex that I've known *very* well for four years now. She's (almost) everything I look for in a partner: Smart, funny, knows what she wants, innocent enough to be innocent, but she's not naive.The chemistry is definately there, and we both know it. Problem is, she's always with some guy or another, and I'm too worried that our friendship would be effed if anything did happen, then we broke it off later.

Why can't RL choices be as easy as the ones in ME?

The short answer: Because in real life we have to deal with real consequences.

Now I haven't seen you and your lady friend together (that I'm aware of at any rate), and it's easier said than done, but I'd say that the next time she's not in a relationship (and seems emotionally ready) why not bring it up gently? Yeah, it's going to bite a big one if it blows up in your face but ilfe's too short and none of us are getting any younger, especially if you two do compliment each other so well. Like the good Shepard says at one point in ME2, "Nothing worthwhile ever comes easily", right?

...And just to keep this related to Tali, isn't that precisely what she did with Shepard?

Yeah, that is what you should do. There was a girl i liked, for years. And i never took my courage to talk to her.
Well, finally i thought that i am going to tell her how i feel but then it was too late. 

Sometimes you just have to get a quad and jump in there. At least you would get closure.
It would still be better then years passing and you being uncertain about what could have been.

Aye, I met a girl during my postgraduate time and we hit it off instantly (ended up talking for 3 ½ hours non-stop in the hallway of the house we met at for a party). We never did date because either she had a boyfriend or I had a girlfriend. Years later I was saying goodbye to her and I said "You know, if you had been single back then I would have asked you out", to which she replied with a smile "If I had been single I would have said yes". It was satisfying to hear but I was in a relationship at the time so I didn't act on it. She's happily in love with a guy who seems to be very much on her wavelength these days. I'm pleased for her but sometimes I still wonder what might have been.

[deusofnull]

crimsoncobra57 wrote...

I just finished up this piece of fan-art that I've been working on, and thought I'd post it before I go to bed.



And with that, I bid you all a good night. Keep the thread going strong ^^

Wow, that is very good.  Seriously, I wish I could draw like that.

[deusofnull]

smore006 wrote...

I'm back after 8 hours... Would someone mind summarizing the highlights of the last 50 pages? =)

Edit: *agrees with The Gay Warden about the fanart*

Well, we talked about Tali a lot...

[The_KFD_Case]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Hmmm, I'd rather facilitate diplomacy between them, that way the quarians can reclaim their home world and the galaxy keeps both the largest armada of ships and the giant military power of the geth intact for when the Reapers come.

Agreed. Besides, as Kal states, send the Quarian fleet after the Geth and all he expects the admirals will get in return is shredded metal. I don't think he was referring to the Geth judging by the tone of his voice.

[Indie Thompson]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Aye, I met a girl during my postgraduate time and we hit it off instantly (ended up talking for 3 ½ hours non-stop in the hallway of the house we met at for a party). We never did date because either she had a boyfriend or I had a girlfriend. Years later I was saying goodbye to her and I said "You know, if you had been single back then I would have asked you out", to which she replied with a smile "If I had been single I would have said yes". It was satisfying to hear but I was in a relationship at the time so I didn't act on it. She's happily in love with a guy who seems to be very much on her wavelength these days. I'm pleased for her but sometimes I still wonder what might have been.

Yeah, that is the thing with that isnt it. I have a GF right now, but sometimes i still think what could have been. 
But really, you never know what might happen. 

[TheSorrow1175]

Just one last quick thing before I sign off. Anyone remember the Space Age Fairytale vid that was making the rounds a while back. Changed the song to something equally appropriate. Lemme know what you think

[GuyWithFace]

smore006 wrote...

I'm back after 8 hours... Would someone mind summarizing the highlights of the last 50 pages? =)

Edit: *agrees with The Gay Warden about the fanart*

Talked about Tali some, a few of us had a short conversation about how Bioware made some of us think about life, love, and all of that outside of the game, which is a big accomplishment for any form of entertainment. I was silly and gave off some personal information. We started talking about the interactions between Legion and Tali.

Nothing too special!



The picture's purdy good, cobra, but I think her breasts are too... spherical.

[The_KFD_Case]

GuyWithFace wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

No sorry this was wrong of me...

Already posted that I was done with it. Shouldn't have let any personal info slip into this thread. And I apologize.


And I read your post, clicked "Reply" and saw that you had changed it. No offense taken. I don't expect you to know the extent of our relationship, so there's no harm done.

Back to Tali!

No apologies needed on my account. I think there should be some leeway for off-topic commentary. Besides, it's not as though we don't have healthy Tali and ME universe related discussions taking place here.

[The_KFD_Case]

1N54N3 wrote...

So yeah...Bioware....375 pages says that we want to see Tali back in ME3 and we want to see her face. 'Nuff said

Not all the entirety of the 375 pages, but the message is clear.

[nitefyre410]

EDarkness wrote...

It's hard to believe that this thread is now over 350 pages. Man, that's some serious dedication, there.

Anyway, to stay on topic, I think that Legion and Tali could be the ones to put things back together. Once people realize that he's not really a bad guy unlike the rest of the Geth. I'm hoping that they do allow the Quarians to find a decent home in the next game. Would make a nice ending to their story.

I agree... I don't even  think the reset of the Geth save the Heretics are the bad guys...   I think the whole Quarin/Geth all started because  A. Quarins tried to shut them down when they asked about a soul and B.the Geth acting out of self preservation.  

Think about like this...  You have  child and that child walks up to ask

"Mommy, Daddy do i have soul..."   and  you  attack that child..   I know extreme but  follow me here. 

The Geth are the  essential the Quarins childern... they ask  do they have a soul... the Quarins then react  in fear  and attempt to shut down   Geth. Problem once  the Geth asked the question about having  a Soul it was beyond the point of no return, they became there own sentient speices.   

A fear that is understandable  given how intergated the Geth were in Quarin  life...