9490 réponses à ce sujet

[Terwox_]

Hey, the pissing contest is two forums down and 43 pages to the left.

[saggsett]

Kami102 wrote...

Shepard: *walks in on Tali pointing a gun at Legion*
....Tali?

Tali: Shepard! He was trying to scan my omni-tool!

Shepard: Legion, is this true?

Legion: Yes, Shepard Commander.

Shepard: ...Well WHY were you going through her Omni-tool?

Legion: This platform wanted to make a simple message to the others.

Shepard: Well what's wrong with that Tali?

Tali: W-well, he doesn't know how to operate it, what if he presses a wrong button or something?

Legion: Unlikely. We are very knowledgeable in Omnitools. See?
*presses a button*

-Tali's voice is heard in a playback message-

Oh oh oh
Today, shepard did the CUTEST thing~
When he walked by, he did this little smile at me.
I practically melted -- thank KEELAH for this mask, I would of been SOOO embarrassed!!!
I mean, some nights I just lay awake at night thinking about him.. I.. I mean the little pole beside my station does have a little grip where if i lean on it right i ca--

Shepard: ........

Legion: ........

Tali: ..........

Legion: ....oops

Genius

[Pauravi]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Well think about it; everyone has their own perfect image of Tali. Finally revealing her face would ruin that for many people.

Eh.. I dunno.
The thing is, I could dream up what I HOPE Tali looks like all day long, but at the end of the day I am still curious how she "really" looks. She is a character not invented by me -- Bioware made her, her personality, and the whole Quarian race.  Bioware has done a masterful job crafting Tali so she feels like an
actual person, and as an actual person, her characteristics exist
independent of what I wish or hope they are.  Because of that, I don't feel like I have the license to create my own Tali.

I just want Bioware to give me something canon.  If I try to simply imagine something it won't feel "real.  I know I am not the only person who thinks that way.

[SerSpiffy]

ipro_carltron wrote...

if mass effect was played through the first person perspective instead of a free floating cinematic/over the shoulder camera we would have all seen tali's face...

and i have to agreed with everyone here. Seeing tali face would finally give a face to the lovable quarian we all love (although her mask is her face, think of tali think of the mask...). But i also agreed that she doesn't need/ shouldn't have a face under the mask. Everyone is free to fantasize what they personally think is the perfect tali face. Lack of codex description or developer pictures hints that they don't plan on revealing the face (at least in the near future).
In short: tali needs a face, but not really cuz she already has one...


note: "the majority of players preferr(ing) other relationships" don't have forum posts that hit 45 pages in a day...

In short: tali needs a face, but not really cuz she already has one...
Keelah Se'lai; She doesn't need a Face. We Love Her already. Her Face. is in her Personality. Her Character. her Face is What she is.

[grayfox4000]

You know I wish you could have convos with her like that where she thinks about shepard like that. lol You already know she thought of shepard like that. But still it'd just be more Tali goodness.

Modifié par grayfox4000, 03 février 2010 - 11:25 .

[Terwox_]

Tbh, I'd still like to see her without the mask on, if only for a brief glimpse. If only to satisfy my curiosity.

[KainrycKarr]

Pauravi wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Well think about it; everyone has their own perfect image of Tali. Finally revealing her face would ruin that for many people.

Eh.. I dunno.
The thing is, I could dream up what I HOPE Tali looks like all day long, but at the end of the day I am still curious how she "really" looks. She is a character not invented by me -- Bioware made her, her personality, and the whole Quarian race.  Bioware has done a masterful job crafting Tali so she feels like an
actual person, and as an actual person, her characteristics exist
independent of what I wish or hope they are.  Because of that, I don't feel like I have the license to create my own Tali.

I just want Bioware to give me something canon.  If I try to simply imagine something it won't feel "real.  I know I am not the only person who thinks that way.

Honestly, I'll be happy either way. I'm just playing devil's advocate.

[ipro_carltron]

tali with no doubt HAS to be in the final installment. because...

in Me1: guess who has the evidence that initially supports your investigation against Saren. Is the only Quarian crewmember who anyone would accept into their crew, and seeing how the quarians will play a major role in Me3 (with the largest fleet in the galaxy?). The geth (creations of the Quarians) play a pretty significant role in the game too. Her name is now Tali'Zorah vas Normandy... One of the more developed romances (that spans the whole game so far and did so beautifully) and imo did a better job of playing the shy type than liara did. And is also the stereotypical 'Machinist'/tech wizard that every game needs. Not to mention she uses teh shotguns!! and the epic hips!! and a orange ball thingy that goes for the optics!! the optics! F-yeh!!

[SerSpiffy]

Pauravi wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Well think about it; everyone has their own perfect image of Tali. Finally revealing her face would ruin that for many people.

Eh.. I dunno.
The thing is, I could dream up what I HOPE Tali looks like all day long, but at the end of the day I am still curious how she "really" looks. She is a character not invented by me -- Bioware made her, her personality, and the whole Quarian race.  Bioware has done a masterful job crafting Tali so she feels like an
actual person, and as an actual person, her characteristics exist
independent of what I wish or hope they are.  Because of that, I don't feel like I have the license to create my own Tali.

I just want Bioware to give me something canon.  If I try to simply imagine something it won't feel "real.  I know I am not the only person who thinks that way.

.... you know. this reminds me of Legion and Tali's Confrontation.

and all i can say. is both sides are right.

you want a face, other don't.

how about we give you non-classified Canon data instead?

SHE LOOKS HUMAN, HER FACE IS HUMAN.

She has a Nose, She has Eyes, She has a Mouth, She has No Ears.

What you see through that mask. is what you get.

leave us to imagine her face. i know. curiousity kills. but still. just be happy with Humanoid face description.

thats Canon.

what you want. is a Face.

But what if the Face is not what you want?

Do You Want a Face? or do you just want a reason to love her?

seriously. i'm starting to feel like all you care about is the Face.

[Swanea]

Tali said she would connect our suits for my shep, but than won't talk to me after that , I'm one sad panda...

[KainrycKarr]

SerSpiffy wrote...

Pauravi wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Well think about it; everyone has their own perfect image of Tali. Finally revealing her face would ruin that for many people.

Eh.. I dunno.
The thing is, I could dream up what I HOPE Tali looks like all day long, but at the end of the day I am still curious how she "really" looks. She is a character not invented by me -- Bioware made her, her personality, and the whole Quarian race.  Bioware has done a masterful job crafting Tali so she feels like an
actual person, and as an actual person, her characteristics exist
independent of what I wish or hope they are.  Because of that, I don't feel like I have the license to create my own Tali.

I just want Bioware to give me something canon.  If I try to simply imagine something it won't feel "real.  I know I am not the only person who thinks that way.

.... you know. this reminds me of Legion and Tali's Confrontation.

and all i can say. is both sides are right.

you want a face, other don't.

how about we give you non-classified Canon data instead?

SHE LOOKS HUMAN, HER FACE IS HUMAN.

She has a Nose, She has Eyes, She has a Mouth, She has No Ears.

What you see through that mask. is what you get.

leave us to imagine her face. i know. curiousity kills. but still. just be happy with Humanoid face description.

thats Canon.

what you want. is a Face.

But what if the Face is not what you want?

Do You Want a Face? or do you just want a reason to love her?

seriously. i'm starting to feel like all you care about is the Face.

I've said about three or four times that i'll be happy either way. >_>

[SerSpiffy]

Swanea wrote...

Tali said she would connect our suits for my shep, but than won't talk to me after that , I'm one sad panda...

you have do FULL missions. with FULL Resolutions. then she'll talk.


Unless. Unless you already beat the game.

or maybe you're not that far in the game.

[Theronyll Itholien]

Somebody made a Facebook group for Tali'Zorah.



http://www.facebook....id=451490580441



Fun, fun, fun! I joined

[SerSpiffy]

KainrycKarr wrote...

SerSpiffy wrote...

Pauravi wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Well think about it; everyone has their own perfect image of Tali. Finally revealing her face would ruin that for many people.

Eh.. I dunno.
The thing is, I could dream up what I HOPE Tali looks like all day long, but at the end of the day I am still curious how she "really" looks. She is a character not invented by me -- Bioware made her, her personality, and the whole Quarian race.  Bioware has done a masterful job crafting Tali so she feels like an
actual person, and as an actual person, her characteristics exist
independent of what I wish or hope they are.  Because of that, I don't feel like I have the license to create my own Tali.

I just want Bioware to give me something canon.  If I try to simply imagine something it won't feel "real.  I know I am not the only person who thinks that way.

.... you know. this reminds me of Legion and Tali's Confrontation.

and all i can say. is both sides are right.

you want a face, other don't.

how about we give you non-classified Canon data instead?

SHE LOOKS HUMAN, HER FACE IS HUMAN.

She has a Nose, She has Eyes, She has a Mouth, She has No Ears.

What you see through that mask. is what you get.

leave us to imagine her face. i know. curiousity kills. but still. just be happy with Humanoid face description.

thats Canon.

what you want. is a Face.

But what if the Face is not what you want?

Do You Want a Face? or do you just want a reason to love her?

seriously. i'm starting to feel like all you care about is the Face.

I've said about three or four times that i'll be happy either way. >_>

I know... I know... but it just... Tali is a great Character. but if you Reveal her Face. it just makes her like any other character. then those guys who think she's "Beautiful" just cause of her face kinda disgrace this fanbase.

instead shouldn't we care about the Character herself?

Firm, Sexy, Soft Speaking, Nervous, like a shy girl with a crush on a clueless boy who finally get a clue.

[KainrycKarr]

SerSpiffy wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

SerSpiffy wrote...

Pauravi wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Well think about it; everyone has their own perfect image of Tali. Finally revealing her face would ruin that for many people.

Eh.. I dunno.
The thing is, I could dream up what I HOPE Tali looks like all day long, but at the end of the day I am still curious how she "really" looks. She is a character not invented by me -- Bioware made her, her personality, and the whole Quarian race.  Bioware has done a masterful job crafting Tali so she feels like an
actual person, and as an actual person, her characteristics exist
independent of what I wish or hope they are.  Because of that, I don't feel like I have the license to create my own Tali.

I just want Bioware to give me something canon.  If I try to simply imagine something it won't feel "real.  I know I am not the only person who thinks that way.

.... you know. this reminds me of Legion and Tali's Confrontation.

and all i can say. is both sides are right.

you want a face, other don't.

how about we give you non-classified Canon data instead?

SHE LOOKS HUMAN, HER FACE IS HUMAN.

She has a Nose, She has Eyes, She has a Mouth, She has No Ears.

What you see through that mask. is what you get.

leave us to imagine her face. i know. curiousity kills. but still. just be happy with Humanoid face description.

thats Canon.

what you want. is a Face.

But what if the Face is not what you want?

Do You Want a Face? or do you just want a reason to love her?

seriously. i'm starting to feel like all you care about is the Face.

I've said about three or four times that i'll be happy either way. >_>

I know... I know... but it just... Tali is a great Character. but if you Reveal her Face. it just makes her like any other character. then those guys who think she's "Beautiful" just cause of her face kinda disgrace this fanbase.

instead shouldn't we care about the Character herself?

Firm, Sexy, Soft Speaking, Nervous, like a shy girl with a crush on a clueless boy who finally get a clue.

I agree completely. But again, playing devil's advocate...more fans = louder fan voice = more dev concentration on Tali.

[grayfox4000]

Fall for the personality not the face. Looks are a bonus. I don't want to know what she looks like. I want her to be what I imagine her face to be. I fell for her personality. I said Oooo I'm going to like this character 1st time she started talking tech. And it seems so long ago when ME1 1st came out. Tho I don't really care what she might look like. Tho like its been said shepard saw her face and liked what he saw = good enough for me.

[SerSpiffy]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Ryouseiken wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

hawat333 wrote...

aaniadyen wrote...

45 pages in a day? Huh...guess there are a few people around here who like Tali or something.

One thing for certain, the Talibase is louder than a Cain.

Reminder: Tha majority of players preferred other relationships, so if one gets in, all should. Either include all or none of them.

That's opinion, not fact. Only bioware knows the real percentile. And Tali/Garrus' roles in ME2 seemed pretty indicative...

Yes, most awesome original squad members ever. Why not another Lazerous Project or something in case your ME2 Garrus/Tali died. Then they can just use that plot scenario and we can do our happy dances cause our male (or) female shephard's snuggle-buddy is back. Haha.

Ew. No more back-to-life stuff. just make the characters available depending on if they died or not. replace them with a new one if they died.

Or just make some of the characters canon-survivors(I.E. they live regardless of if they died in your ME2 playthrough, much like Shepard. You can't import a dead Shepard).

Canon-Survivors? your not serious are you? don't you see? everyone is a canon survivor or a canon death.

ANYONE on the team can die. 3 can survive. yes. maybe. but if you think about it. everyone can.

in other words. if you don't do your homework. you're gonna get schooled.

you're in the wrong thread.

this thread is for supporting bringing back the original Garrus and Tali, Battling the fight against the Reapers. seeing the fight through till the end.

like my good friend said, the pissing contest is 2 threads down, 43 pages that way.

[KainrycKarr]

SerSpiffy wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Ryouseiken wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

hawat333 wrote...

aaniadyen wrote...

45 pages in a day? Huh...guess there are a few people around here who like Tali or something.

One thing for certain, the Talibase is louder than a Cain.

Reminder: Tha majority of players preferred other relationships, so if one gets in, all should. Either include all or none of them.

That's opinion, not fact. Only bioware knows the real percentile. And Tali/Garrus' roles in ME2 seemed pretty indicative...

Yes, most awesome original squad members ever. Why not another Lazerous Project or something in case your ME2 Garrus/Tali died. Then they can just use that plot scenario and we can do our happy dances cause our male (or) female shephard's snuggle-buddy is back. Haha.

Ew. No more back-to-life stuff. just make the characters available depending on if they died or not. replace them with a new one if they died.

Or just make some of the characters canon-survivors(I.E. they live regardless of if they died in your ME2 playthrough, much like Shepard. You can't import a dead Shepard).

Canon-Survivors? your not serious are you? don't you see? everyone is a canon survivor or a canon death.

ANYONE on the team can die. 3 can survive. yes. maybe. but if you think about it. everyone can.

in other words. if you don't do your homework. you're gonna get schooled.

you're in the wrong thread.

this thread is for supporting bringing back the original Garrus and Tali, Battling the fight against the Reapers. seeing the fight through till the end.

like my good friend said, the pissing contest is 2 threads down, 43 pages that way.

...I created the support Tali and Garrus in ME3 group, genius.

Attacking other supporters is clearly a smart way to handle it.

[grayfox4000]

Now we need somebody to do Tali on twitter and say what shes doing every now and then.

[Pauravi]

SerSpiffy wrote...

how about we give you non-classified Canon data instead?
SHE LOOKS HUMAN, HER FACE IS HUMAN.
She has a Nose, She has Eyes, She has a Mouth, She has No Ears.

But that isn't a face, it is a list of attributes.  If I tell you that someone has two eyes and a nose and a mouth that doesn't tell you anything about what that person looks like.

What you see through that mask. is what you get.
leave us to imagine her face. i know. curiousity kills. but still. just be happy with Humanoid face description

Not possible

what you want. is a Face.
But what if the Face is not what you want?

It will be what I want, as long as it is Tali's face.

Do You Want a Face? or do you just want a reason to love her?

No, I'm pretty much already smitten with Tali's character -- I just want to know what she looks like.

Like I said, I didn't create Tali.  She is a character that exists independent of my whims.  As such, her face is also not subject to my whims, and thus any face I dream up will simply be speculation.  I don't get to GIVE her one, even if you (or even the writers) give me permission to do so.  If they never show her face I will still not feel entitled to give her one, it will simply feel like I never got to find out.  Considering that she was my friend and romance through 2 (hopefully 3) epic games, I think that would be a terrible letdown.

Modifié par Pauravi, 03 février 2010 - 11:43 .

[SerSpiffy]

KainrycKarr wrote...

SerSpiffy wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Ryouseiken wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

hawat333 wrote...

aaniadyen wrote...

45 pages in a day? Huh...guess there are a few people around here who like Tali or something.

One thing for certain, the Talibase is louder than a Cain.

Reminder: Tha majority of players preferred other relationships, so if one gets in, all should. Either include all or none of them.

That's opinion, not fact. Only bioware knows the real percentile. And Tali/Garrus' roles in ME2 seemed pretty indicative...

Yes, most awesome original squad members ever. Why not another Lazerous Project or something in case your ME2 Garrus/Tali died. Then they can just use that plot scenario and we can do our happy dances cause our male (or) female shephard's snuggle-buddy is back. Haha.

Ew. No more back-to-life stuff. just make the characters available depending on if they died or not. replace them with a new one if they died.

Or just make some of the characters canon-survivors(I.E. they live regardless of if they died in your ME2 playthrough, much like Shepard. You can't import a dead Shepard).

Canon-Survivors? your not serious are you? don't you see? everyone is a canon survivor or a canon death.

ANYONE on the team can die. 3 can survive. yes. maybe. but if you think about it. everyone can.

in other words. if you don't do your homework. you're gonna get schooled.

you're in the wrong thread.

this thread is for supporting bringing back the original Garrus and Tali, Battling the fight against the Reapers. seeing the fight through till the end.

like my good friend said, the pissing contest is 2 threads down, 43 pages that way.

...I created the support Tali and Garrus in ME3 group, genius.

Attacking other supporters is clearly a smart way to handle it.

Sorry... but i truely felt he was attack this cause.

i must have misread something. i apologize.

still what i read. i felt he was intentionally flaming the fact that we are supporting to bring Garrus and Tali back.

[KainrycKarr]

SerSpiffy wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

SerSpiffy wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Ryouseiken wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

hawat333 wrote...

aaniadyen wrote...

45 pages in a day? Huh...guess there are a few people around here who like Tali or something.

One thing for certain, the Talibase is louder than a Cain.

Reminder: Tha majority of players preferred other relationships, so if one gets in, all should. Either include all or none of them.

That's opinion, not fact. Only bioware knows the real percentile. And Tali/Garrus' roles in ME2 seemed pretty indicative...

Yes, most awesome original squad members ever. Why not another Lazerous Project or something in case your ME2 Garrus/Tali died. Then they can just use that plot scenario and we can do our happy dances cause our male (or) female shephard's snuggle-buddy is back. Haha.

Ew. No more back-to-life stuff. just make the characters available depending on if they died or not. replace them with a new one if they died.

Or just make some of the characters canon-survivors(I.E. they live regardless of if they died in your ME2 playthrough, much like Shepard. You can't import a dead Shepard).

Canon-Survivors? your not serious are you? don't you see? everyone is a canon survivor or a canon death.

ANYONE on the team can die. 3 can survive. yes. maybe. but if you think about it. everyone can.

in other words. if you don't do your homework. you're gonna get schooled.

you're in the wrong thread.

this thread is for supporting bringing back the original Garrus and Tali, Battling the fight against the Reapers. seeing the fight through till the end.

like my good friend said, the pissing contest is 2 threads down, 43 pages that way.

...I created the support Tali and Garrus in ME3 group, genius.

Attacking other supporters is clearly a smart way to handle it.

Sorry... but i truely felt he was attack this cause.

i must have misread something. i apologize.

still what i read. i felt he was intentionally flaming the fact that we are supporting to bring Garrus and Tali back.

I, personally, am in favor of bringing the majority of the ME2 people back. It renders ME2's story pointless otherwise. however, to do so ruins the idea of "choice" in the suicide mission.

but, more characters are, in some cases hugely, more popular than others. Tali and Garrus are up at the top, so, to me, the sensible thing is to write in the most popular ME2 characters as canon surivors, and if others died, replace them with new characters OR if they survived, simply keep them recruited.

I am 110%% in favor of a continued Tali squadmember and romance. I hope I've made my intentions clear enough.

[SkywardDescent]

Kami102 wrote...

Shepard: *walks in on Tali pointing a gun at Legion*
....Tali?

Tali: Shepard! He was trying to scan my omni-tool!

Shepard: Legion, is this true?

Legion: Yes, Shepard Commander.

Shepard: ...Well WHY were you going through her Omni-tool?

Legion: This platform wanted to make a simple message to the others.

Shepard: Well what's wrong with that Tali?

Tali: W-well, he doesn't know how to operate it, what if he presses a wrong button or something?

Legion: Unlikely. We are very knowledgeable in Omnitools. See?
*presses a button*

-Tali's voice is heard in a playback message-

Oh oh oh
Today, shepard did the CUTEST thing~
When he walked by, he did this little smile at me.
I practically melted -- thank KEELAH for this mask, I would of been SOOO embarrassed!!!
I mean, some nights I just lay awake at night thinking about him.. I.. I mean the little pole beside my station does have a little grip where if i lean on it right i ca--

Shepard: ........

Legion: ........

Tali: ..........

Legion: ....oops

Oh wow that's gold!

[Pathogen69]

jeebus. i leave for two hours to try adn get my pc fixed (which its not, have a feeling my video card is about to go ****** up /crai) and there are 200 more posts. grats on breaking the 1k post mark though. kudos on that achievement.

[SerSpiffy]

Pauravi wrote...

SerSpiffy wrote...

how about we give you non-classified Canon data instead?
SHE LOOKS HUMAN, HER FACE IS HUMAN.
She has a Nose, She has Eyes, She has a Mouth, She has No Ears.

But that isn't a face, it is a list of attributes.  If I tell you that someone has two eyes and a nose and a mouth that doesn't tell you anything about what that person looks like.

What you see through that mask. is what you get.
leave us to imagine her face. i know. curiousity kills. but still. just be happy with Humanoid face description

Not possible

what you want. is a Face.
But what if the Face is not what you want?

It will be what I want, as long as it is Tali's face.

Do You Want a Face? or do you just want a reason to love her?

No, I'm pretty much already smitten with Tali's character -- I just want to know what she looks like.

Like I said, I didn't create Tali.  She is a character that exists independent of my whims.  As such, her face is also not subject to my whims, and thus any face I dream up will simply be speculation.  I don't get to GIVE her one, even if you (or even the writers) give me permission to do so.  If they never show her face I will still not feel entitled to give her one, it will simply feel like I never got to find out.  Considering that she was my friend and romance through 2 (hopefully 3) epic games, I think that would be a terrible letdown.

If you think about it. giving Tali a face. is like Giving Master Chief a Face.

He's a White Guy, if he has scar on his face and a couple of breaks on his skin and baggy eyes and looks like an old man... don't you think plenty of people are gonna be disappointed?

if you make him a black guy, don't you think plenty of people are gonna be disappointed?

if you make him hispanic, don't you think plenty of people are gonna say "chingado wey"

don't you think it's the same concept?

Giving a Tali a Face is like saying "**** your imagination, we give her a face to make a couple of people happy. the rest of you. deal with it."

i say reveal her face when it's all over. when. EVERYTHING. is over.

The Reapers are more important that facial expressions from a specific Quarian. i'm sure at the end though... she will reveal her face. and you will be granted your wish. until then i am enjoying the time of mysteriousness she has.

as much as nice a face would be... it'd be better not to reveal one. considering... you'd be disappointing alot of people in doing so...