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[StefanBW]

Jacob is cool, but sadly I never have him on my squad. There's just to many other cool squadmembers.

[NICKjnp]

Barker673 wrote...

Deltateam Elcor wrote...

Also has 2 more balls.

QFT. 

Grunt is amazing. Jacob is not.

It's true though... Krogan have 4 balls.  It says so in the first game.

[kraidy1117]

Grunt take a huge beating and still be hard to kill, even with his armor gone. Jacob dies in like five shots when his barrier is down. Jacob is the most useless, worthless and boring squadmate in ME and don't forget the priiiize.

[Collider]

What I don't get is why they did a few things...

Jacob doesn't use Assault rifles even though he did in Galaxy. He also does not have the same abilities as he did in Galaxy. And he doesn't look the same as he did in galaxy (WTF).



His romance sounds like femshep wants to violate him, and he has that terrible priiiize line like femshep is a trophy.



They should have made him recall his space pirate days as a privateer.

[kraidy1117]

Collider wrote...

What I don't get is why they did a few things...
Jacob doesn't use Assault rifles even though he did in Galaxy. He also does not have the same abilities as he did in Galaxy. And he doesn't look the same as he did in galaxy (WTF).

His romance sounds like femshep wants to violate him, and he has that terrible priiiize line like femshep is a trophy.

They should have made him recall his space pirate days as a privateer.

They should have just not added Jacob at all.

[NICKjnp]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Grunt take a huge beating and still be hard to kill, even with his armor gone. Jacob dies in like five shots when his barrier is down. Jacob is the most useless, worthless and boring squadmate in ME and don't forget the priiiize.

Yeah... I did a NG+ Insanity Adept playthrough and Grunt almost always stood the test.  On Horizon he went toe to toe with the first scion (though Mordin was the one who brought down the Praetorian).  On Miranda's loyalty mission he and a vanguard just stood there firing at each other until she died (it was like 2 minutes... I didn't even realize what was happening until I had killed Boss).  At the collector's base he stood infront of the scion and just took the pain while Shep and Samara finished it off.  Then when I was fighting the Human Reaper... Grunt stood face to face with Harbinger and just took it the entire time (didn't go down) while Shep and Samara finished off the Human Reaper.  Nothing beats spamming fortification.

[kraidy1117]

NICKjnp wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Grunt take a huge beating and still be hard to kill, even with his armor gone. Jacob dies in like five shots when his barrier is down. Jacob is the most useless, worthless and boring squadmate in ME and don't forget the priiiize.

Yeah... I did a NG+ Insanity Adept playthrough and Grunt almost always stood the test.  On Horizon he went toe to toe with the first scion (though Mordin was the one who brought down the Praetorian).  On Miranda's loyalty mission he and a vanguard just stood there firing at each other until she died (it was like 2 minutes... I didn't even realize what was happening until I had killed Boss).  At the collector's base he stood infront of the scion and just took the pain while Shep and Samara finished it off.  Then when I was fighting the Human Reaper... Grunt stood face to face with Harbinger and just took it the entire time (didn't go down) while Shep and Samara finished off the Human Reaper.  Nothing beats spamming fortification.

LOL thats Grunt for you, he is the tank for ME2. Plus if they get to clsoe to him he just charges and it is almost a instant kill

[Vaenier]

Jacob is a redshirt, just doesnt seem to wana stay dead. Fixed in suicide mission.

[tonnactus]

The_mango55 wrote...

Grunt can do anything better than you. I mean jacob.

But seriously, even though he's an ever so slightly boring character (not as bad as Kaiden), I would still like to use him in my party. However, it seems like by taking him I gimp myself somewhat by not taking Grunt instead. Let's look at the skills:

Jacob - Grunt

• Incendiary Ammo = Incendiary Ammo | Nothing to discuss here
• Barrier = Fortification | These skills are basically identical
• Pull ≈ Concussive shot | I can see the argument for pull as CC, but concussive blast can do CC pretty well too, plus the damage isn't shabby either.
• Cerberus Operative <<<<< Krogan Berserker | Berserker gives about the same health and damage bonuses (a bit more health and a bit less damage), but also offers significant regen bonuses.
• Shotgun/pistol < Shotgun(including Claymore)/Assault Rifle

Add to this that Grunt has naturally much higher health and armor and a powerful melee attack, there's really no reason to ever have Jacob in your party.

Warp explosions with grunt?But jacobs pull works great there.
Jacob is not that bad for a adept/sentinel.

Modifié par tonnactus, 03 avril 2010 - 10:18 .

[SirEmilCrane]

All the squad members have something they can do well. I like Jacob because he has the priiiiize, Grunt, well I don't like Krogan at all but he cool

[tonnactus]

kraidy1117 wrote...

They should have just not added Jacob at all.

No.They shouldnt gimp him for Miranda.In the first gameplay videos jacob was the one that has warp.Not Miranda.

Modifié par tonnactus, 03 avril 2010 - 10:27 .

[Sago_mulch]

The_mango55 wrote...

I HATE BLACK PEOPLE..

YOU HUMANS ARE ALL RACIST

[Pacifien]

I took Jacob to the first couple of missions, but then all he was ever good for was the Normandy's armour upgrade. This is because you can't get Barrier until after his loyalty mission, so his ability for CQC is negligible. Even without Fortification, Grunt is a force to be reckoned with.

So if I wasn't going to use Jacob as a tank, then he's only good when used in combination with another biotic. Again, Grunt doesn't necessarily need to be paired with a certain squadmate in order for him to be effective.

It also doesn't help that I preferred talking to Grunt over Jacob, but now I'm just getting nitpicky.

[NICKjnp]

tonnactus wrote...

The_mango55 wrote...

Grunt can do anything better than you. I mean jacob.

But seriously, even though he's an ever so slightly boring character (not as bad as Kaiden), I would still like to use him in my party. However, it seems like by taking him I gimp myself somewhat by not taking Grunt instead. Let's look at the skills:

Jacob - Grunt

• Incendiary Ammo = Incendiary Ammo | Nothing to discuss here
• Barrier = Fortification | These skills are basically identical
• Pull ≈ Concussive shot | I can see the argument for pull as CC, but concussive blast can do CC pretty well too, plus the damage isn't shabby either.
• Cerberus Operative <<<<< Krogan Berserker | Berserker gives about the same health and damage bonuses (a bit more health and a bit less damage), but also offers significant regen bonuses.
• Shotgun/pistol < Shotgun(including Claymore)/Assault Rifle

Add to this that Grunt has naturally much higher health and armor and a powerful melee attack, there's really no reason to ever have Jacob in your party.

Warp explosions with grunt?But jacobs pull works great there.
Jacob is not that bad for a adept/sentinel.

An adept can set off their own warp bombs... no need for Jacob.  Once you get Jack it is better to have her because she has the same skill set but can use shockwave and he class skill gives her a better recharge time.  Barrier is useless becasue it is too long of a recharge time for setting up combos.  Grunt doesn't really need concusive shot... all he has to do is activate incendiary ammo (especially squad if you are an adept)... and fortification is the only power you really need to use for him.

[kraidy1117]

tonnactus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

They should have just not added Jacob at all.

No.They shouldnt gimp him for Miranda.In the first gameplay videos jacob was the one that has warp.Not Miranda.

Um Miri is a sential, she would still have had warp and overload, no matter if Jacob had it, he still would suck. They should have gave him a AR instead of a shotgun.

[OneBadAssMother]

I AM KROOOGAN!

[NICKjnp]

kraidy1117 wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

They should have just not added Jacob at all.

No.They shouldnt gimp him for Miranda.In the first gameplay videos jacob was the one that has warp.Not Miranda.

Um Miri is a sential, she would still have had warp and overload, no matter if Jacob had it, he still would suck. They should have gave him a AR instead of a shotgun.

Then he would have had to yell "Assault Rifle" instead of "shotgun" when he fired.

[kraidy1117]

NICKjnp wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

They should have just not added Jacob at all.

No.They shouldnt gimp him for Miranda.In the first gameplay videos jacob was the one that has warp.Not Miranda.

Um Miri is a sential, she would still have had warp and overload, no matter if Jacob had it, he still would suck. They should have gave him a AR instead of a shotgun.

Then die five seconds later because he sucks

Then he would have had to yell "Assault Rifle" instead of "shotgun" when he fired.

[tonnactus]

kraidy1117 wrote...

tonnactu

Um Miri is a sential, she would still have had warp and overload, no matter if Jacob had it, he still would suck. They should have gave him a AR instead of a shotgun.

Jacob is a vanguard and all enemie vanguards have warp.


Miranda never had warp in the early gameplay videos.

They gimped jacob for miranda.Dont know why.He was the hero of galaxy,not this stupid ****.

Warp,pull, group inferno.That would be a great squadmate.

Modifié par tonnactus, 03 avril 2010 - 10:32 .

[kraidy1117]

tonnactus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

tonnactu

Um Miri is a sential, she would still have had warp and overload, no matter if Jacob had it, he still would suck. They should have gave him a AR instead of a shotgun.

Jacob is a vanguard and all enemie vanguards have warp.


Miranda never has warp in the early gameplay videos.

They gimped jacob for miranda.Dont know why.He was the hero of galxay,not this stupid ****.

Then she would have been gimped because she is a sential, she is a biotic and tech genus. Giving her overload and not warp is just <_<

[Tlazolteotl]

'cos Miranda is suppoed to be "perfect"

[tonnactus]

[quote]NICKjnp wrote...

[quote]kraidy1117 wrote...


Yeah... I did a NG+ Insanity Adept playthrough and Grunt almost always stood the test. [/quote]

Really?The scion still kill him in with shockwaves,despite his fortification.Against harbinger,his regen rate also never helps,because harbinger attacks stops health regeneration und destroys armor.

[NICKjnp]

kraidy1117 wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

They should have just not added Jacob at all.

No.They shouldnt gimp him for Miranda.In the first gameplay videos jacob was the one that has warp.Not Miranda.

Um Miri is a sential, she would still have had warp and overload, no matter if Jacob had it, he still would suck. They should have gave him a AR instead of a shotgun.

Then die five seconds later because he sucks

Then he would have had to yell "Assault Rifle" instead of "shotgun" when he fired.

Tell me about it... you know what his favorite thing to do is?  Run underneath Praetorians when they are dropping to dish out their AoE damage and Barrier recharge.  That is the dumbest squad AI ever.

[tonnactus]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Then she would have been gimped because she is a sential, she is a biotic and tech genus. Giving her overload and not warp is just <_<

Sentinels never had warp.Squadmates are different from shepardt.Liara never had marksmen or basic armor...
But she was adept.
And miranda die to fast to be usefull anyways.
And trie to stop rockets with her huge forehead.

Modifié par tonnactus, 03 avril 2010 - 10:39 .