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[SithLordExarKun]

The inventory system could have been improved and not completely discarded, i don't have a problem with the new system but its a little bit of a hassle to go back to your ship just to change gear.



Oh and more armors would have been nice and bad bioware for not giving us the option to purchase/equip kaidens and blue sun helmets.

[Kordeshkistriakor]

Personally, I found ME2 to be quite a b it better than ME1. The characters have SO much more depth (although your crew in the first game weren't cardboard cutouts, compared to the second game they are), and I was really able to get into the game more because of the enhanced gameplay. Perhaps the story wasn't quite as good as the orignial; I have no opinion on that, I found the story to be fine; but what this game had that the first one didn't for me was immersion. All (well, most) of those jarring little flaws in the first game have been greatly reduced, and that really gave the game a flow that, in my opinion, the first one didn't have, and that vastly improved the whole experience for me. I really don't miss the inventory; all you ever had in it were a ton of samey items that all worked in EXACTLY the same manner as all the other items of their type; there really wasn't any point to it since better items almost always had across-the-board better stats and were clearly the right pick. I admit that at first it was disorienting to not be getting tons of loot, but it has definately grown on me; on my third playthrough and I don't even notice I'm missing it anymore.

Modifié par Kordeshkistriakor, 03 février 2010 - 01:44 .

[HardestWorker]

Overall ME2 lost some of its appeal it had in ME, imo.  I didn't like the loot system, I want more weapons, instead of 2.  Armor was a disapointment.  I think the color change was cool, made myself look like a ninja turtle, somewhat atleast.  I didn't dig the story being focused about recruiting people.  I rather have 6 followers then having the whole game based on recruiting 10+. 

I wish the Mako was back, I loved the battle scenes.  I didn't like the random wandering in planets though.  But I guess I have to turn the switch on in my brain to start adapting to the bad qualities I have about the game.  Still haven't gotten use to the scanning system but I'm trying to like it.  It's like trying to enjoy geting punched in the face when it comes to scanning. 

[DarthCaine]

What hate? Here:
http://social.biowar...093/polls/1659/
http://social.biowar...693/polls/1694/
http://social.biowar...596/polls/1670/

[AgentOfAtlas]

I haven't played it yet myself since I'm out of town, but most of my gamer friends have it, are playing it constantly and keep going on about how awesome it is.

[dmajilton]

The reason it seems like ME2 is getting all the bad pub on this board is because everyone who actually likes it(you know not the 2-3 thousand on here that do nothing but whine) IS PLAYING IT!!! Go look at its reviews and tell me its getting bad pub. After having at least 50 reviews done ME2 is AVERAGING a 9.7 out of 10. Thats UNBELIEVABLE to average that score over 50 reviews and to earn perfect scores from places who have never even given a perfect score before. Bottom line if you loved the first one you'll love the second one. I cant even play the first one anymore. The improvements in ME2 make it feel like a brand new game(NOte this is a GREAT thing).

Remember guys when ME1 was first announced it was announced as the first FPSRPG(NOTE it does not say RPGFPS) People who say its straying away from rpgs are completely wrong. Still has customization(Awesome that upgrades are built into the suit so you dont have to switch crap out everytime.), but they've improved the game in every way. Still get Fantastic story with choices that have consequences(If thats not an rpg then wtf is).

Bottom line the Game is great. what ME1 did to make all other games look bad by comparison ME2 does to ME1. This game sets the standard for ANY game in this generation and beyond. People who hate this game would probably be better off returning to their ultima games.

And before i get flamed. I play more rpg's than any other genre

Modifié par dmajilton, 03 février 2010 - 02:46 .

[dmajilton]

fyi i already have 3 games fully cleared, All planets explore all hidden misions all side mission and loyalty missions. This game is like crack. I easliy put 120 hrs into it in the first week and i have no plans to quit playing ME2 anytime soon.

[Chrono Mizaki]

I never really got the 'hate' of Mass Effect 2. As far as I can remember, Deus Ex was one of the best 'RPG' and that has limited RPG elements. Yet people hardly hate it.

Mass Effect 2 is an RPG in a sense that you can control the conversation and its outcome. It also put emphasis on that YOU are the main character, so it put emphasis on picking a class and customising your character with armour and such. But for the life of me, I can't see why ANYONE would prefer the original Mass Effect to the Sequel.

Really, the main storyline was great and the main quest were good, not forgetting the awesome conversation events, but about everything else fall short on horrid design.

1. The Mako was horrid. Extremely bad handling, weak cannon, etc.
2. The Inventory System. Not only you have too much to trod through, yet it's limited to 5 per page? Even the Gameboy FFs have more items per page than this. Not only that, but you can't press 'cancel' if you accidently press a button to customise it.
3. Cancelling is almost non-existence, save the Galaxy Menu, where you press planets. There's also no 'convert all weapons to omni-gel'
4. Dead lifeless planets and you want me to explore it? Screw that, I prefer 'scanning planets' in Mass Effect 2, at least I get something for it.
5. Extremely horrid design when it comes to the planets. There are some which have too many mountains and obstruct my goal to reaching a 'geth base' or a 'Bunker with either thorian, cerberus or biotic terrorist'.
6. The upgrades and customisation were amongst the most terrible. Wide variety, but many of it was useless. Most criminal of all, it was made redundant by later models and lasty, combination mdoels which combines like Optics and Accuracy or Stability and Heat Absorption. It would've been better if you started off with the basic, but upgraded them over time instead of being given new upgrades like smarties.
7. This applies to one and two. Linear Level Design, with lots of corridors. Never bothered me really, but wierdly... in Mass Effect 2, there are a lot more linear corridors, with the Collector's Ship having more of wide-open space. Mind, I haven't completed Mass Effect 2.

So yes. Mass Effect 1 was a good game, but have terrible design. If the story, conversation and the core gameplay wasn't up to scratch, I would've called it an extremely terrible game and this, I would never understand anyone who prefers the original. So yes, Mass Effect 2 is a huge improvement, it's just considered as a 'bad sequel' as it didn't build on previous elements, but rather abandon them in favour of new, streamlined stuff.

Modifié par Chrono Mizaki, 03 février 2010 - 03:04 .

[Killian Kalthorne]

New streamlined stuff that makes no sense such as running around in damaged armor or going into a firefight half naked..

[Chrono Mizaki]

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

New streamlined stuff that makes no sense such as running around in damaged armor or going into a firefight half naked..

I haven't lost sleep over that. I play many JRPGs for me to not care, especially when I didn't care about the look of the armour in ME1 as it was just bland.

[JrayM16]

I'm about halfway through my first play so I feel fairly qualified to pass some degree of judgement on the game. It is a fantastic game. I feel it is better than ME1. However it is not great for the same reasons that ME1 was great. Still, some people really overstate the differences. If you liked ME1 I find it hard to imagine that you wouldnt like ME2 unless you really hate shooters, which ME1 was atleast partially to begine w/.

[MasterChief13Va]

I personally found the second game amusing. While it lacked RPG elements, it was still enjoyable to play. If you really like ME1, then you probably will like ME2 but if you are looking for an in-depth RPG with TPS then you will be disappointed as many people are. If you are looking for less of an RPG and more of a TPS, then you will probably like more.

[Jacob3219]

I dont this is much of a spoiler. but OMFG!!! the best game i have played in this decade. BEST ENDING.

and it is better than ME1, i enjoyed the rpg elements in ME1 but this one, blows it out of the water.

Modifié par Jacob3219, 05 février 2010 - 09:26 .

[BusterPoindexter]

sjeremy7777 wrote...

I am on my second play through and I am a little over half way through.  This time I have not awarded a single sqaud point nor have i done a single upgrade.  I can not tell the difference in difficulty between my second play through and my first play through.  None of the RPG elements in ME2 matter, at all.

However, ME2 in my opinion is one of the greatest FPS games ever made.

Am I the only one a little annoyed by almost everyone calling mass effect 2 a FPS?

[sHePhArD44]

Personally, I think the Gears of War style shooting is way better than the weightless combat from the first. I also think some of the new characters are just absolute stand-outs, namely Thane and Jacob. I can't blame people for thinking the first is better though; both have their own merits, I seem to believe it's a matter of preference; ME1 is a more tightly controlled RPG, whilst ME2 is more of an explosive shooter.

[CatatonicMan]

As far as I'm concerned, ME2 is sub par; it just isn't as fun as the original. I don't know exactly what caused it (likely an amalgamation of all the individual changes), but ME2 is lacking the soul of the original.



I enjoyed ME1 in spite of the flaws, but I can't say the same for ME2.

[Tom Adama]

That's because all the fans of ME1 have abandoned ME2 after voicing their dissapointment and the ONLY people who like ME2 are new-comers who have not played ME1.

[SithLordExarKun]

CatatonicMan wrote...

As far as I'm concerned, ME2 is sub par; it just isn't as fun as the original. I don't know exactly what caused it (likely an amalgamation of all the individual changes), but ME2 is lacking the soul of the original.

I enjoyed ME1 in spite of the flaws, but I can't say the same for ME2.

So you enjoy the horrible inventory system, copy and past uncharted worlds, clunky combat, crappy mako controls and emtionless speechs in the first game? Wow.

Tom Adama wrote...

That's because all the fans of ME1
have abandoned ME2 after voicing their dissapointment and the ONLY
people who like ME2 are new-comers who have not played ME1.

I
would like to call bull**** on this one, i LOVED the original ME1 and
replayed it 6 times and yet i found ME2 far more satisfying than the
unpolished first.

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 06 février 2010 - 02:09 .

[sos986]

there are alot of fanboys out there, alot of people who think that talking on a forum will change how the dev's see the gamegoing in 2 years



you can still pick enemys up into the air and shoot them with a shotgun the voice acting is still unmached



it suffers from middle child syndrom, but lets face it, its. a middle child



play it, enjoy it

[noobzor99]

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

New streamlined stuff that makes no sense such as running around in damaged armor or going into a firefight half naked..

This was one of the things that really annoyed me.  The inventory system (aka lack of any) was depressing as well.  And the plot, well, at least the end was epic.  Too bad the beginning and the end was the only central plot.


Though, the combat was MUCH improved.  Bioware gets mega-props for that.

[highcastle]

Don't judge it before you play it, but I personally was disappointed. I'm a hardcore BioWare fan and RPG fan, and this is the first BioWare title to disappoint me. Yes, it's definitely far more of a shooter than an RPG, but for me the most tragic thing of all was the lack of an emotional connection in this game. I found it far harder to get to know NPCs, making it difficult to care about them (honestly, I think Dragon Age and the original ME did a better job at fleshing out your crew members), and the overall storyline just wasn't as engaging. But this is just one woman's opinion. I know several people who think this game is the best thing ever, and that's great for them. It just didn't appeal to me personally and what I look for in a game (and that's story, characters, and the freedom to shape my character the way I want).

[lokikallas]

No, it's a good game, but they streamlined it for mass appeal.

[MoonChildTheUnholy]

ME2 is a dumbed down version of ME, they improved combat and still got dumbed down in some areas like limited ammo, special ammo only as power, no crouch, squad mates with no armor sets, Garrus damaged armor for the entire game, etc the annoying list goes on.

[SithLordExarKun]

ME1's annoying list IMO trumps that of ME2.

[MassEffect762]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

ME1's annoying list IMO trumps that of ME2.

ME1 Awesome list Trumps that of ME2.