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[Cutlass Jack]

Fun tidbit, if you have a ME1 LI you have a photograph on your desk of them. If you romance someone else the Photograph gets slapped face down lololol.

No the real fun tidbit is that Anderson also has a picture of Kaidan on his desk. I still feel a little concerned about that.

[mopotter]

shinobi602 wrote...

People, Ashley/Kaidan are reacting on a spur of the moment emotion. Give them a break, for crying out loud.

I agree.  I can handle the e-mail apology.  I haven't seen any vid screens like we had in ME1.  If we had one then I would want a face to face apology, but without that, e-mail works for me.   

[Faerlyte]

TeenZombie wrote...

I understand the ME1 love interest's position better than I understand Shepard's, honestly. If I had had any say, I would have gone straight to Arcturus Station as soon as I had control of the Normandy, and I would have talked to Alliance leaders about my status, how I could continue to serve, and whether I should go along with Cerberus, or blow them off. In short, I would have acted like a soldier, and obeyed the chain of command, no matter what the extenuating circumstances. The fact that I couldn't do something like that, and the fact that I was never given an explanation WHY I couldn't do something like that, was maddening.

So when Kaidan or Ashley hear these rumors, and suspect that Shepard has been alive all this time, and working for Cerberus, I don't mind that they get a little emotional when they meet up. In fact, their responses to the situation are more realistic than Tali or Garrus.

Realistc has got nothing to do with it. Personalities differ - just because not everyone reacts the same way to a specific situation doesn't make their reaction any less realistic. Tali and Garrus weren't lacking in emotion, but they do come across as being more level headed. If that is their personality, that's their personality. I'm not the sort of person who would start out being accusatory as Ashley/Kaiden did because that's just not the way I do things. I'd have questions and I'd be wary, but I also want to believe in the good of people, especially someone I know and trust, so I'm not going to make a scene without getting an explanation first.

Not all relationships have to have such catastrophic breakdowns in the middle of them...I know people, my parents specifically, who would not have treated the situation that way. If you love someone you've got to trust them and give them the benefit of the doubt. 

And relying on rumors is really a bad idea. But I fully expect everything will be cleared up for all the ME1 romances in ME3. I'm not saying that Ashley/Kaiden are bad people - I'm just saying that, me personally, I wouldn't stand for it in a relationship. I sympathize with their situation to an extent, but when it comes to a romantic level, that's not good enough. 

I was also under the impression that the Alliance was being just as big a pain in the ass about the Reapers as the Council in trying to cover it up. Anderson tells you as much - the Alliance is blowing it off, which is why you're working with Cerberus, because they're not. Not to mention, you do have the choice of funneling information to the Alliance instead of giving it straight over to Cerberus. 

I don't care for Cerberus and what they do, which is why it's so satisfying to use them for the good of the Galaxy, and then flip them the bird when it's done.  

[Xalena]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Fun tidbit, if you have a ME1 LI you have a photograph on your desk of them. If you romance someone else the Photograph gets slapped face down lololol.

No the real fun tidbit is that Anderson also has a picture of Kaidan on his desk. I still feel a little concerned about that.

Wait, what?! How I missed that o.O why the hell he would have Kaidan picture  on his desk?! Or you joking? Why he doesn't have picture of me, I am a hero of the universe omg what a bunch of ungratefull humans they all deserve to be wiped out by Reapers. I hope I can side with Reapers in ME3.
Bioware should made option so we can answer on mails. And...really just one mail? Just one!? That Ashley and Kaidan really care they would send us alot of mails or video mails...bah and they wouldn't use past simple when they talk about love. They say "I lovED you"! Damn I hate them both...and they say they don't want to loose you again but it is ok to let you go on suicide mission? When you love someone and care for someone you treat that person like a drop of water holding on hand. They behave selfish, they are totally blind. Their crappy Alliance is first thing in their life! And in my perspective 2 years is not so long. I know people who lost their loves in real life after 10 years some of them can't move on still! And they both knew you are alive before they met you on Horizon! They totally failed on "trusting" part which is important thing in every relationship. I can't see any logic how and why someone would stay faithful to them. You must be terrible mazohistic to yourself then. I am sorry!

Modifié par Xalena, 02 février 2010 - 11:57 .

[Voods07]

Lady Discordia wrote...

I really wanted a Renegade Interrupt when Kaidan was yelling at me about how i'd betrayed everyone. A Shepard punch would have been very appropriate XD

Falcon slap!

[InvaderErl]

Anderson's unspoken love for Alenko will burn brightly.

[Hepzi3]

Dead for 2 years. (Keep in mind, only Liara knows for certain that you were dead. Ashley did not. I have to imagine she thought you simply abandoned her.)



Working for the Enemy. (We blew up TONS of Cerberus stuff in ME1. They were a rogue terrorist organization with tons of money and a penchant for terrorism.)



Can you blame them? I cant. Shepard...has some explaining to do.



And Liara....Give youre body to Cerberus (Again, The Enemy) or the Shadow Broker (who was apparently working with Reapers/Collectors)



If you want to be angry at anyone, Be angry at TIM for telling Ashley/Kaiden these things.



TIM tried to ruin youre relationship with Ash/Kaiden. I do think it is pretty reasonable to say that TIM did not ONLY say you were working for Cerberus, I think he threw in a few things (Eg Shepard moved on, He/She does not want/need you anymore.)



Ash/Kaiden thought you were...I dont even know, when you asked them back to the Normandy. I have to imagine Ash/Kaiden thought that you were going to introduce them to their replacements.



I brought Miranda with me to Horizon. Not a pleasant sight, Although I do wish Miranda would have at least said that she had no interest in Shep.

[Xalena]

@ Hepzi3

I am sorry but would you be with someone who can be easily manipulated by others?

for damn sake they have their own damn brains to think!

They failed at trusting you. No trust, no love= they moved on and they tell you that on Horizon clearly and in mail. They don't care, maybe I can tell that they even are obsessed with you in some way a little. Maybe. I throwed this...take it how you want.

[Xalena]

-double post sorry-

Modifié par Xalena, 03 février 2010 - 12:04 .

[Faerlyte]

Hepzi3 wrote...

Dead for 2 years. (Keep in mind, only Liara knows for certain that you were dead. Ashley did not. I have to imagine she thought you simply abandoned her.)

Working for the Enemy. (We blew up TONS of Cerberus stuff in ME1. They were a rogue terrorist organization with tons of money and a penchant for terrorism.)

Can you blame them? I cant. Shepard...has some explaining to do.

And Liara....Give youre body to Cerberus (Again, The Enemy) or the Shadow Broker (who was apparently working with Reapers/Collectors)

If you want to be angry at anyone, Be angry at TIM for telling Ashley/Kaiden these things.

TIM tried to ruin youre relationship with Ash/Kaiden. I do think it is pretty reasonable to say that TIM did not ONLY say you were working for Cerberus, I think he threw in a few things (Eg Shepard moved on, He/She does not want/need you anymore.)

Ash/Kaiden thought you were...I dont even know, when you asked them back to the Normandy. I have to imagine Ash/Kaiden thought that you were going to introduce them to their replacements.

I brought Miranda with me to Horizon. Not a pleasant sight, Although I do wish Miranda would have at least said that she had no interest in Shep.

Cerberus isn't the enemy. The Reapers are. When it's all said and done, if the Reapers win it doesn't matter what Cerberus' ongoing transgressions are because everyone will be dead, or indoctrinated, including Cerberus. 

People who otherwise wouldn't have anything to do with one another, good and bad, come together against a threat of that magnitude. You don't look a gift horse in the mouth. 

As for what TIM might have told Ashley/Kaiden - that's all very understandable, but I expect a certain amount of loyalty from people when it comes down to the roughest situation a person could find themselves faced with. Who are you going to listen to? TIM or Shepard? Seriously, that would be a no brainer. I'd take basically anything TIM says with a grain of salt - the same goes for rumors. 

Shepard shouldn't have to explain anything to anyone. You've been dead for 2 years and then thrust into a situation that sucks, but what are you going to do? Say no to what might possibly be the only way to save the Galaxy? I would call this a classic scenario of choosing the lesser of two evils. Besides which, Shepard doesn't take part in what Cerberus does to people - would not stand for it (as a paragon), and therefore shouldn't be taking the blame. It's probably best that it IS Shepard doing the work for Cerberus, because Shepard will not stoop to their methods of going about things, and will make sure it's done right, whereas Cerberus wouldn't. 

I hope that all the Ashley/Kaiden fans get their happy ending and I'm 99% positive they will, come ME3. But I still think that the Horizon scene is poorly done and not very conducive of positive thoughts towards those characters. I didn't like them in the first place though, so it's a losing battle for them where I'm concerned. 

Modifié par Faerlyte, 03 février 2010 - 12:12 .