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[Venix245]

so was playing earlier and the whole team was down except for me and Leliana, only to have a Ogre take her down, I dont think Ive ever made my PC go as nuts on somthing before as i did that ogre and the slow mo kill topped it off



BTW quick question in the thread how do i upload my warden screenshots and such ive looked in the profile and cant find a way to link my Gamertag i have an EA master account with my GT on it but i want it on this one anyhelp anyone?

[Barbarossa2010]

BTW, How did the romance in DA:O make me feel?



Being that I romanced Morrigan on my first playthrough, pretty much like I had been stabbed in the face with one of Bodahn's Cheese knives.

[Venix245]

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

BTW, How did the romance in DA:O make me feel?

Being that I romanced Morrigan on my first playthrough, pretty much like I had been stabbed in the face with one of Bodahn's Cheese knives.

thats pretty harsh, is morrigan's romance really that bad?

[errant_knight]

Liquidcz wrote...

Well they can always make 2 versions and then present a dialog box upon beginning a new game with something like "This game contains nudity and graphic sex scenes. If you do not wish to see such content, tick the box and press OK" - much like MW2 did it with the civilian-slaughtering mission. Mods can only go as far as the original game permits (in terms of animations, facial expressions etc) and then we end up with awkward stuff like some parts of the BSC scenes.

Though the current implementation is certainly better than nothing.

I'd rather they spent that development time making interesting conversations, quests, or items/creatures rather than more extensive or graphic sex.

Modifié par errant_knight, 03 février 2010 - 11:58 .

[Maria Caliban]

My Leliana romance made me feel like a chocolate chip cookie straight from the oven.

[Liquidcz]

errant_knight wrote...
I'd rather they spent that development time making interesting conversations, quests, or items/creatures rather than more extensive or graphic sex.

They could still settle with the graphic version and just fade out the normal one, considering there were people who found even the scenes currently present in DAO offensive 

[SusanStoHelit]

Venix245 wrote...

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Being that I romanced Morrigan on my first playthrough, pretty much like I had been stabbed in the face with one of Bodahn's Cheese knives.

thats pretty harsh, is morrigan's romance really that bad?

Some people certainly think so. I've seen some of the guys talking about feeling 'gutted' and so on. I can't really relate to that, because it's clear to all from the get-go what kind of character Morrigan is, and she tells you right up front before you even start a relationship that love is fleeting and has no meaning - only survival and power have meaning. I'm not quite sure what they expected, really. Probably, that love would 'tame' her, and she's suddenly give up everything she'd ever wanted and planned just to be with them. The world well lost for love ... it wasn't ever going to happen with her. And if it had, I'd have been very disappointed. The end of that romance was - pretty near perfect. It fitted her character absolutely.

Nevertheless, the fact that we are able to get so attached to a virtual person that we can feel anything about them - let alone something that strong - is a testament to good writing. Kudos to Bioware.

Modifié par SusanStoHelit, 04 février 2010 - 12:22 .

[TheBlackBaron]

Well, from a storytelling perspective Morrigan's romance is fantastic - the best in the game in my humble opinion. It's complex, can be prematurely terminated in a number of ways (it's far easier to shake Morrigan loose than it is any of the others), and the ending is certainly true to her character and can be seen from a ways off depending on you interpret the dialogue.

Doesn't stop it from being a massive kick in the balls, though.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 04 février 2010 - 12:27 .

[LordBegrezen]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Well, from a storytelling perspective Morrigan's romance is fantastic - the best in the game in my humble opinion. It's complex, can be prematurely terminated in a number of ways (it's far easier to shake Morrigan loose than it is any of the others), and the ending is certainly true to her character and can be seen from a ways off depending on you interpret the dialogue.

Doesn't stop it from being a massive kick in the balls, though.

I'd have to agree with out, although I like the Zevran Romance just as well.
But with Morrigan it really felt realistic for me, the way she handled our relationship, it was in my opinion
totally according to her character. It was exciting to see her go through these different stages of affection... and in the end, i felt like she really loved me. However, I never believed that she would stay with me... that would have been unfitting...
So I was okay with the end, but It certainly made me sad and angry.
This is actually quite funny, because in Real Life i am not into women... but Morrigan, I don't know what it is about her...

[errant_knight]

Liquidcz wrote...

errant_knight wrote...
I'd rather they spent that development time making interesting conversations, quests, or items/creatures rather than more extensive or graphic sex.

They could still settle with the graphic version and just fade out the normal one, considering there were people who found even the scenes currently present in DAO offensive 

Very, very few. I guess I just don't see it as important. What we have gets the point across about the relationships and level of intimacy, it offends few, and serves its purpose within the game. Longer, more graphic scenes would be much more difficult and time consuming, taking away from more important aspects of the game. And pity the poor modeler/animator who has to tell his/her family and friends that their new job at Bioware is creating and animating functional penises. Seriously, who wants that?

[Venix245]

errant_knight wrote...

Liquidcz wrote...

errant_knight wrote...
I'd rather they spent that development time making interesting conversations, quests, or items/creatures rather than more extensive or graphic sex.

They could still settle with the graphic version and just fade out the normal one, considering there were people who found even the scenes currently present in DAO offensive 

Very, very few. I guess I just don't see it as important. What we have gets the point across about the relationships and level of intimacy, it offends few, and serves its purpose within the game. Longer, more graphic scenes would be much more difficult and time consuming, taking away from more important aspects of the game. And pity the poor modeler/animator who has to tell his/her family and friends that their new job at Bioware is creating and animating functional penises. Seriously, who wants that?

I lol'd like somone said a few posts back its amazing the emotion we can feel towards a virtual person, it was great going through the relationship stages with Leliana i just like her character so much more than the others, she is always the first person i pick in the party screen now she goes absoutley everywhere with me,

in fact when i first encounterd Zev and he started hitting on me i was like woaaaaaah already spoken for lol and had to tell him no... repeatedly did he not realise Leliana was with me, infact what would have been a nice inclusion was if somone starts hitting on your character and if you in a relationship with somone they step into the conversation that would of been intresting

[ComTrav]

Having just finished ME2, I have to say I really liked how DAO treated the romances overall. It was nice to get involved in a particular relationship early, and have the potential for complications down the road. (When Morrigan asked me what my opinion was on love, I knew this was going to be hard to get through with +approval.)



The romantic interlude is an important part of the relationship, but it's not the end-all, be-all.

[TheLion36]

Venix245 wrote...
thats pretty harsh, is morrigan's romance really that bad?

I thought the romance was great, the ending hurts a little but you can tell it doesn't just hurt for the player but also for her... I know people stated it would be out of character for Morrigan if she stayed with you and if with that you mean live in the city like a housewife then I agree... However I still think it is possible for her to engage in a long term relationship with someone and stay in character.

She is however an interesting character and it appears like even tho we all read and heard the same dialogs everyone perceives her and her character differently.

[blademaster7]

It wouldn't be possible for Morrigan to stay in a relationship with you no matter how you look at it. Are you forgetting that you are cursed with the taint? The darkspawn are gonna keep coming after you. Do you really wanna lead them straight to another Old God? It's probably one of the reasons she doesn't want you to follow.

I respected her request not to follow her for that, and for plenty of other reasons I explained in some other topic.

It is selfish for a Grey Warden to engage in a romance no matter who you choose( with the possible exception being a female with Alistair). Not only you're neglecting your duties but you are also putting your beloved one in danger.

[Venix245]

blademaster7 wrote...

It wouldn't be possible for Morrigan to stay in a relationship with you no matter how you look at it. Are you forgetting that you are cursed with the taint? The darkspawn are gonna keep coming after you. Do you really wanna lead them straight to another Old God? It's probably one of the reasons she doesn't want you to follow.

I respected her request not to follow her for that, and for plenty of other reasons I explained in some other topic.

It is selfish for a Grey Warden to engage in a romance no matter who you choose( with the possible exception being a female with Alistair). Not only you're neglecting your duties but you are also putting your beloved one in danger.

you sound like Wynne when she was talking to me about me and Leliana lol, to be fair even if you wern't in a relationship with wichever companoin you choose they'd stil be in danger because they are following a grey wardern around, and if the blight is over the Darkspawn wont come after you will they? unless they still pop up out the ground for a laugh every now and then lol and whichever companoin you do choose to romance i think they all know they are in danger just being around you.

As for the selfish /neglecting duties part i never understood that, im still killing darkspawn and uniting fereldon to fight the archdemon its not like you stopping doind what your doing just or the person you love cause your still carrying on with your quest there is no reason Love cant blossom anywhere if any of hat made sense lol

[TheLion36]

blademaster7 wrote...
It wouldn't be possible for Morrigan to stay in a relationship with you no matter how you look at it. Are you forgetting that you are cursed with the taint? The darkspawn are gonna keep coming after you. Do you really wanna lead them straight to another Old God? It's probably one of the reasons she doesn't want you to follow.

They sense you if you are close yes, but I don't remember it ever being mentioned anywhere that they where actively hunting grey wardens. As far as I know (and I'm no expert in the lore), they are attracted by the "song" of the old gods, if they find the old god and touch it they turn it into an Archdemon almost unwillingly. Then the Archdemon speaks to them and commands them.
I do have a similar theory to you though that the pull of the old gods soul inside Morrigans baby and the fact that the darkspawn can sense you might applify their attraction.

Must make a sidenote that I looked on the wiki and found this quote: "Also, while they can sense darkspawn, darkspawn are also capable of sensing the Wardens. As much of a boon as this dark gift is for the Wardens, it has also allowed them to be hunted by the darkspawn on occasion."
Whether this is means during a blight or when there is no blight at all remains unclear but it indicates you might be right! 

There is however also the possibility that the child is immune to the taint, considering Grey Wardens are immune (sort of) and the child has the Grey Warden blood (which attracts the soul in the first place) and the child is not really an old god but a child with the soul of an old god. However this could be wishful thinking.

About the general relationship thing with Grey Wardens (besides Morrigan), I don't really think it is selfish. We are saving the world from the blight(s) and I think we should be able to enjoy this world even though we only have a short existence. A soldier can also get a wife and still perform his duty, I don't really see how this is different from a Grey Warden with the exception that we only live 30 years after getting tainted, however the soldier could also die tomorrow! 

Modifié par TheLion36, 04 février 2010 - 09:43 .

[Liquidcz]

blademaster7 wrote...
It is selfish for a Grey Warden to engage in a romance no matter who you choose( with the possible exception being a female with Alistair). Not only you're neglecting your duties but you are also putting your beloved one in danger.

I'd love to see you personally as a Grey Warden. If you could function for 20-30 years as a mindless husk without any feelings or emotions. GWs are not tranquil. Pretty much all possible romance partners can take care of themselves well enough and thanks to you at their side, they will always know in advance when the Darkspawn are coming.

[blademaster7]

Liquidcz wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...
It is selfish for a Grey Warden to engage in a romance no matter who you choose( with the possible exception being a female with Alistair). Not only you're neglecting your duties but you are also putting your beloved one in danger.

I'd love to see you personally as a Grey Warden. If you could function for 20-30 years as a mindless husk without any feelings or emotions. GWs are not tranquil. Pretty much all possible romance partners can take care of themselves well enough and thanks to you at their side, they will always know in advance when the Darkspawn are coming.

I said it is a selfish act. That is not to say that I cannot be selfish if I want. No one is forbidding you from enjoing the pleasures of life. Go out and get as many girlfriends as you want. But if you want to settle down and start a family, simply know that your dragging them with you. That's how I feel.

[ejoslin]

blademaster7 wrote...

Liquidcz wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...
It is selfish for a Grey Warden to engage in a romance no matter who you choose( with the possible exception being a female with Alistair). Not only you're neglecting your duties but you are also putting your beloved one in danger.

I'd love to see you personally as a Grey Warden. If you could function for 20-30 years as a mindless husk without any feelings or emotions. GWs are not tranquil. Pretty much all possible romance partners can take care of themselves well enough and thanks to you at their side, they will always know in advance when the Darkspawn are coming.

I said it is a selfish act. That is not to say that I cannot be selfish if I want. No one is forbidding you from enjoing the pleasures of life. Go out and get as many girlfriends as you want. But if you want to settle down and start a family, simply know that your dragging them with you. That's how I feel.

Well, a Grey Warden isn't going to be starting a family.  And as far as it being selfish, not really.  As long as the other person is aware of what you are, they are making a choice too.

Edit: And you see many people dying young in this game.  30 years isn't a short amount of time.  You'll be dying in your 50s -- yes, that's young, but that doesn't mean you can't have a good life with someone in that time.

Modifié par ejoslin, 04 février 2010 - 11:53 .

[Venix245]

just seen the sacred ashes trailer for the first time and for a CGI animation, Leliana looked absolutley stunning makes me appreciate her even more in game   and sh kicked som ass too lol

[LillithMabon]

LOL, I was disappointed that once you have the love scene, you dont get it again. All your choice is "Let's go to sleep", a little dark before the camp comes back up. What, you only get to have the sex once?



I would also have like more conversation around the camp fire about the days events. Especially after the Fade, I felt there should have been more discussion, like Alistair having a sister. You actually find out then, not later when the conversation comes up for his personal quest.

[Addai]

blademaster7 wrote...

It is selfish for a Grey Warden to engage in a romance no matter who you choose( with the possible exception being a female with Alistair). Not only you're neglecting your duties but you are also putting your beloved one in danger.

As is the case for any regular soldier.  It's a quote from somewhere else, but wars are not fought only by childless men.

[Addai]

LillithMabon wrote...

LOL, I was disappointed that once you have the love scene, you dont get it again. All your choice is "Let's go to sleep", a little dark before the camp comes back up. What, you only get to have the sex once?

I would also have like more conversation around the camp fire about the days events. Especially after the Fade, I felt there should have been more discussion, like Alistair having a sister. You actually find out then, not later when the conversation comes up for his personal quest.

I would have liked more conversation, too, especially in that lag time between the romance heating up and its turning point.  For Alistair, between sleeping with him and the Landsmeet, and with Zevran, between learning about Rinna and the Taliesin encounter.

I also was hoping for an additional tent scene with Zevran after the relationship changes.  It seems so significant.

[LillithMabon]

I tried to get sex with Duncan before he died LOL, no go, too bad what a sexy man.

My human noble suggest asking questions that night in my room, but he said it wouldnt be proper.

Modifié par LillithMabon, 04 février 2010 - 05:18 .

[Ilvra]

Another vote for more conversation. Part of RP is filling in those gaps, I suppose, and there's no point in lots of conversations about things that don't advance the plot. Still, it would be nice.

I'm another one that protects my love in combat as well. But, the ultimate "oh my god, I am such a fangirl" moment for me was this: Playing my mage, I stupidly allowed myself to get surrounded, and, of course, they all resisted CC. I was trying to stay alive, and wasn't paying much attention to where everybody else was, when suddenly, Alistair is right beside me, knocking them away for all he's worth. In my nerdy little heart, I knew it was just game mechanics, but still, it quite took my breath away.

Modifié par Ilvra, 04 février 2010 - 10:07 .