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I honestly don't think we need a single new squadmate in ME3


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shinobi602

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One or two new ones is fine. But I'm very attached to all my ME1 and ME2 squadmates. Don't throw that away Bioware. I don't want whole new people to get to know and get used to. I want to stay with all my buddies throughout the entire mission.

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They have to have all new squadmates. It's possible for all of the current ones to die in your import save. Since they have to account for that in ME3, i would imagine they would need to provide a new roster of squadmates.

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I don't think we have to worry about them losing the squadmates we're attached to. It seems in ME2 that they've made Shepard into a pretty sentimental character. Naming his/her new ship the exact same thing as his previous ship, constantly interested in seeking out his old crew, rehashing the good old days with Joker, trying to get old friends to join his mission. Shepard won't allow his old friends to be lost.

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*could have* being the key words here.

Remeber they do warn you that your decisions can have dire effect on ME3.

They have already said Liara and Kaiden/Ashley got a pass in ME2 so they can be in 3 for sure.



My expectation for me3 squad choice is Liaria,Kaiden/Ash,Any surviving me2 squaddies,mabey 2 new characters.In other words the more you screw up me 2 the worse you are in ME3.

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I can't see Wrex returning as a squad member at the moment, it seems that he will play a huge role in uniting the Krogan Clans against The Reaper threat. Ashley/Kaiden depending on who survived in the previous play-through could possibly return. Liara though is the only one garenteed  to return and her quest against the Shadow Broker will definitely play a huge part in it.

Now as for the Mass Effect 2 squad member it would be alot trickier to implement, Garruys and Tali are a given even if they both can die in Mass Effect 2, Grunt will more than likely return if he survives ME2 due to the fact that Sheppard is his Battlemaster.

Really I would like to think that every squad member can possibly return with the exception of Zaaed and other DLC squad-mates.

Modifié par The BS Police, 02 février 2010 - 06:31 .


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samuraix87

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i say if the choose to make new ones for people that lost some make them not required if your whole squad survived me2 its only fair

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It should work like this transfer over your surviving ME2 party members. Add in Liara plus Ashley/Kaidan and 2 new people and call it good to go.

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jeah, the squadmates are already exellent. thane, legion, garrus, jack, mordin. i don't need new ones.....but a return of wrex in ME3 would be great :D

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ME2 was all about building loyalty and listening to your squadmembers stories. It will ****** me off if all that is put behind and a completely new team is made.

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Yeah, we should have the people we know around for the final act. *fingers crossed* Heck, even Samara mentions coming back if you need her, etc.

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TudorWolf wrote...

Bioware are really going to have to choose whether to favour the fans or the newbs.

Mass Effect 2 had a new squad for that reason pretty much, limit the "wtf who is this?" factor for the new guys.
I'm seriously hoping that we see most of the past characters back. I'd be seriously let down otherwise


The first game purportedly sold between 2 and 3 million copies, it's not some quaint little game they were trying introduce to the unwashed masses.  The main reason Mass Effect 2 had a new squad was because it was a suicide mission and they didn't want to kill off the original characters.  If anything, they tailored most of their decisions in the sequel to the people who played the first game and gave them substantial feedback.

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I am pretty certain that you will have almost no old squadmates with you in ME3. Maybe Liara since she is the only one who has definitely survived the story through ME2. And possibily either Ashley/Kaiden, although I say unlikely.



Because of the suicide mission at the end of ME2, there is a possibility of everyone can die. Even if shep survives and you can import your game into ME3, there is no garantee that certain people made it through with Shep.



The Mass Effect series was always designed to be your game, so if you made a decision that involved the death of a teammate, that is a part of your game. (This is excluding the case where Shepard dies, which does not create an import option.)



MASS EFFECT 3 WILL NOT HAVE ANY ME2 SQADMEMBERS.

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it has to have me2 squadmates cause if the all died in the missionso do you and what would be the point of the no one left behind achievement if we only get me1 squadmates that only 2 cause wrexwont leave the krogan and the main part of me2 is to make a team of badass people and gain there loyalty if bioware does all cameos for the me2 squad i bet you no one will buy me3

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Man785 wrote...

I am pretty certain that you will have almost no old squadmates with you in ME3. Maybe Liara since she is the only one who has definitely survived the story through ME2. And possibily either Ashley/Kaiden, although I say unlikely.

Because of the suicide mission at the end of ME2, there is a possibility of everyone can die. Even if shep survives and you can import your game into ME3, there is no garantee that certain people made it through with Shep.

The Mass Effect series was always designed to be your game, so if you made a decision that involved the death of a teammate, that is a part of your game. (This is excluding the case where Shepard dies, which does not create an import option.)

MASS EFFECT 3 WILL NOT HAVE ANY ME2 SQADMEMBERS.


I find your last two points contradictory. Mass Effect is indeed designed to be your game, where your choices matter. For that exact reason, if you choose to save the ME2 squadmates, they should continue working with you as part of your crew. If everyone, regardless of their success rate in the suicide mission, saw their entire ME2 team abandon them, then the choice didn't matter.

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Man785 wrote...

I am pretty certain that you will have almost no old squadmates with you in ME3. Maybe Liara since she is the only one who has definitely survived the story through ME2. And possibily either Ashley/Kaiden, although I say unlikely.

Because of the suicide mission at the end of ME2, there is a possibility of everyone can die. Even if shep survives and you can import your game into ME3, there is no garantee that certain people made it through with Shep.

The Mass Effect series was always designed to be your game, so if you made a decision that involved the death of a teammate, that is a part of your game. (This is excluding the case where Shepard dies, which does not create an import option.)

MASS EFFECT 3 WILL NOT HAVE ANY ME2 SQADMEMBERS.


You counter your own point. If the ME series was always designed to be my game, then It would have the ME2 squadmemebers I cared about in it. Because it was my game.

If Bioware cleans out all the old members just to make it 'easy' then there was no point to any of the decisions you made during the first two installments. I hate the 'slap in the face' cliche, but it kind of would be that to the loyal fans and the decisions they made.

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There are a lot of ways they could go. There does absolutely HAVE to be some new squadmates, at least to account for bloodbath ME2 scenarios. And I don't expect all former squadmates to return to that status. I mean, there are good story reasons why some characters would go do something else. Something like 7 returning squadmates and 5 new ones would be OK. OF course ones who don't make squadmate ststaus would still deserve roles, and I really hope there is a big scene/gathering before the ending involving EVERYONE surviving from all your teams, where you can resolve all relationships, etc.

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I think they should put a twist on it. They should allow you to recruit prior squadmates, but because that pool may be small, they should have additional 'green' recruits, and you not only earn their trust which should have varying degrees of difficulty, you need to get them experienced and up to speed.

That way those who saved as many people as possible have a strong crew to begin with, and can possibly add to it, and those who barely escaped a blood bath are hosed.

Uniting the galaxy is inevitable and I hae a feeling former crew members will be leaders of their sects, and saving their lives makes your job easier. Wrex and the Krogan, Tali and the Quarians (if you didn't screw over her relation ship with the flotilla), Legion and his Geth... then other possibilities are Garrus and the Turians, and either Samara or Liara and the Asari... even more remote is Mordin and the Salarians.

Not every crew member from either game will be recruitable because that is too many, especially when some people will only have liara, ashley/kaidan to recruit from that pool

Although, BioWare, the more involved you get every character from the past the better, particularly former and current crew members - reward those of us who saved people

I played my very first playthrough of ME 1 through ME 2 first to see how things turned out for me when I don't know how to get the best ending, only fatalities are kaidan, thane, and miranda, kelly, and gabby (and preston but thats not in your control)... then I played again and saved everyone... but I'd like to be able to see all these people again

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Alraiis wrote...
I find your last two points contradictory. Mass Effect is indeed designed to be your game, where your choices matter. For that exact reason, if you choose to save the ME2 squadmates, they should continue working with you as part of your crew. If everyone, regardless of their success rate in the suicide mission, saw their entire ME2 team abandon them, then the choice didn't matter.

You counter your own point. If the ME series was always designed to be my game, then It would have the ME2 squadmemebers I cared about in it. Because it was my game.

If Bioware cleans out all the old members just to make it 'easy' then there was no point to any of the decisions you made during the first two installments. I hate the 'slap in the face' cliche, but it kind of would be that to the loyal fans and the decisions they made.


I see where both of you are coming from, but I am coming from Bioware's point of view with the assumption that they will not dedicate resources into coding and voicing characters that may or may not be used in the game. They were able to do this in ME 2 with Ashley and Kaiden because they were given side plots and weren't used in the main arch of the story. Wrex was also replacable, but did not have a large role in the main story. NPCs you run across are different than main story squadmembers.

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Well it's pretty obvious there has to be because what will happen to the people who lost all their team mates in the second game? I just hope it;s not to many that we can't still use the old characters. But since the Art and Animations for the current characters are already done, and I highly doubt there is gonna be an upgrade in visuals going from 2 to 3, they really already have most of their work done for them they just may need to tweak a few things or a add a few new animations. Maybe some new textures and some new normal maps.

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Yeah, there are too many characters and it's going to harm the story again if they do this. They need to ramp up the main story arc not give us 6 or 12 new characters to work with.

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i would only want 1 new squadmate which would be an Elcor. They are awesome

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its not to many squadmates if you take out zaeed you have 11 squadmate from me2 and 3 from me1 thats 14 from both games thats enough and like most people that will import there me2 save will import the one where they save all the me2 squadmates if you have people died in me2 you should not get any new squadmates in me3 cause it was your choices that had them die

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Sabre120 wrote...

Not only do I like the idea of squad mates from 1 and 2 returning, I don't think it would be easy to put in many more new ones and give them the amount of dialogue they deserve, hence only keep what we have!


   Agreed.... a handful of optional new faces.   I don't think the game could be long enough if they did an entire new cast.

   Besides, if they update the look of the Me-1 and 2 charecters and gace them some new abilities it would be close to having new charecters.

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I agree. I say 2-3 new team members, and the rest will be who ever survived your ME1 -2 games. The more that you have live, will make your chances of defeating the Reapers even better.

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I actually want to see a whole new crew in the third game. If any of the old crew does show up at some point in the story I would like to see each have Virmire hug-a-thermonuclear-device moment. If they are coming in let them go out with a bang I say.