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Commander Shepard changed his relationship status to "it's complicated".

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Wintermist

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No matter what other say I was disappointed by the whole Liara interaction. I wanted more, even though she wouldn't join my team at the point I wanted more from her.

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Himmelstor

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Heh heh



Ash: "You cheated on me with WHO?"

Shep: "Tali...what...?

Ash: "I am going to kill you. Then her. Then you again."

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I romanced liara in ME1 and then tali in ME2 because it seemed like tali cared so much more for me, tali even said in ME2 that she wished shepard was here. If I could have romanced tali in ME1 I would have.



Liara just wanted me to do stuff for her when I met her, no omg, your alive! or anything like that. No, of course I'll help you instead of taking on my personal vengeance quest. I don't know, it just seems like tali cares so much more for shepard. And it's not really cheating, it was a one night stand, we didn't get married or anything.

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Well, I'm not worried about this. I went through first with my male shepard romancing Tali and again with a female Shepard remaining faithful with Liara.



No doubt in ME3, BW will force your character to work with your LI from ME and make it awkward as possible if your cheated.


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Wintermist wrote...

The whole "You'll get punished in Mass effect 3 if you don't stay faithful Mass Effect 2" has me confused and irritated. What reason is there to stay "faithful" to something that isn't there?


Because I can. :D

Because really, what other reason does a person need other than "I feel like doing it that way"?

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jlb524 wrote...

November Cousland wrote...

I didn't want to stay faithful, because I never intended to play ME2 with the import I ended up having to use. However, I am having trouble getting the people I am interested in interested back. I keep accidentally hitting on people I don't like and saying asinine things to those I like. Can I romance Jack? If I can romance Jack, can I convince her to stop wearing that dark lipstick???


Yes you can romance Jack (if you are male).  No you can't get her to stop wearing that dark lipstick.


Not male, but I'm still going to try.

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I feel slightly guilty for hooking up with Miranda even though my LI turned into a self-obsessed revenge queen.I'm actually considering replaying ME1 just so I can have an import where I'm single and continue that story line but I really don't want to have to play with the old mechanics again. *Sad Face*

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My ME1 LI was Liara. But honestly, even though I understand she was being cautious because she believed she was being monitored, her Illium appearance just pissed me off. I mean, what, she couldn't be bothered getting out of her chair and walking the one minute walk to my private quarters on the Normandy? Where we could speak freely? Or at least, where she could be guaranteed none of her enemies would overhear?



And saving me from the Collectors wasn't an LI related thing, she did that for all Shepards. The single ones, and the ones who romanced Ash/Kaiden too. Sure, the bonding thing wasn't a one night stand, but if you had no relationship with her, the most she had was a crush, yet she still saved you. That's friendship.



Combine that with the fact that Tali is just... better. More expressive, more animated, more engaging. I can honestly say I won't be looking back.



Although I do agree with the guy who said Shepard's reaction was weird - he didn't question her attitude at all (at least, not in any way the non-LI Sheps don't also do), or mention your relationship in any way. Same with the Ashley conversation actually too. That was kinda lame.

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It's sort of interesting. I think, without a doubt, that my Shep that was with Liara should remain completely faithful to her. But I've read the comic and done her mission and I understand why she did was she did.



My relationship with Ashley? No. The Tali romance was so ... *right* that I'm sorry, if there's some kind of "evil consequences" as a result of leaving Ash for Tali I'll just start a new ME1 and murder the b*tch on Virmire. Srsly, Tali is that awesome.

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"I hope theres a "____ is just a better person than you are" ooption XD

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Honestly I'm not too worried. At the end of the day, it's inevitable that there will be a persuade/renegade option to stay with whichever person you choose. Whether staying with one means losing contact with the other, though, I'm not as sure.

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I wanted Tali as a relationship in ME1 so I am fine cheating in ME2 so I can get her.

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If you go through the Ilos love scene, at least in Kaidan's case, he's completely unsure of what he wants at that point. I know, because I just rewatched it trying to get my game setting tweaks corrected for ultra high res.



Now don't get me wrong, I can empathize with Kaidan. Here he is, the person he cares about dies under his watch. He could have returned to help Shepard after making sure the crew safely boarded the escape pods. He didn't. Secondly, he goes to Horizon because of Cerberus, but rather than give you the benefit of the doubt (he's supposed to know you afterall), he turns his back on you completely.



Now I'm giving BioWare a bit of leeway in that regard because they did it mainly based on how they wanted the story to play out. That doesn't change the fact that Kaidan's betrayal cut about as deeply as it could. And yes my friends, that's exactly what it was. Betrayal. Candy coat it as much as you like, it is what it is. If any of the characters from ME1 who weren't an LI had some a similar thing to you in ME2, I'm fairly certain many of you would have eagerly have blasted them in the face given half the chance.



If he really loved you, he would have given you the benefit of the doubt and put his trust in you. That never happened.



That said, sticking with your ME1 LI or not is entirely your choice. By labeling the ending of it with a new ME2 romance as cheating however is grossly in error.



As for my Shepard.... I can't fix Kaidan. I have a galaxy to save from the Reapers. There's no time to hold someone's hand and teach them how to walk. There's no time to sit around and wait while he figures out what he wants. My time is short and I need someone who'll stand behind me no matter what. In the end, what matters is who's standing by my side when the dust settles, if I survive. And if I don't, who stood with me till that pivotal moment.






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Wintermist wrote...

The whole "You'll get punished in Mass effect 3 if you don't stay faithful Mass Effect 2" has me confused and irritated. What reason is there to stay "faithful" to something that isn't there? You're brushed off. You got the hand. The shrug and "Did we know eachother" treatment.

I can understand Ashley being upset in a way, but Liara is just weird. I remember first thinking, what's this, and got annoyed and hooked up with Tali since Liara obviously didn't want anymore than what she got.


Liara wasn't there for my character when she was needed, so she can't complain.

Also, her personality seems to have become more obsessive in this one, so I feel no regrets.

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Well said. People are rationalizing Ashley/Kaiden's decision and if it was ANYBODY else they'd say "F you and have a nice day."

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Stoko981

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Hell, if Tali and Garrus - bona fide aliens - can get over the whole working for/with/near Cerberus thing, I can't see Kailey's problem. (Kailey? Or Ashden? I just get so sick of typing both names, and lets face it, they have 99% exactly the same dialogue in the Horizon scene.)



Although I was a little pissed myself that my Shep could question Miranda about the Rachni/Husks/Creepers Cerberus experimented with, but there was no option to question her about the Thresher Maw acid in Toombs' veins, luring entire squads to their deaths just to see what happens and murdering Admiral Kahoku.



So I can understand Ashden's hatred of Cerberus, but considering how much they supposedly care for Shep, and how much they know and trust him/her, you'd think they'd give the benefit of the doubt. Instead of just accusing Shep of feeling grateful to Cerberus for the whole resurrection thing. Like Shepard'd be that stupid. If there wasn't a compelling reason to be doing it, Shepard would have told them where they could shove their shiny new ship and gone on with his life.

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InvaderErl wrote...

Well said. People are rationalizing Ashley/Kaiden's decision and if it was ANYBODY else they'd say "F you and have a nice day."


It's not as simple as saying "F you and have a nice day" to a person if you love them.

Again, not to beat a dead horse, but it's complicated.

#94
Himmelstor

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It's Bioware. Of course it's complicated.

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AlphaFist wrote...

I think it's asking too much of Shepard to remain faithful after the cold treatment received on Horizon and being dead for two years. Can't blame him too much for wanting to move on, he had to check if everything works after two years.


Thats exactly what i wanted to say, or something very close.

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BoogieManFL

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Kyero, you bear a striking similarity to my DAO character... Check out my avatar... Wtf?

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You can use the "x is not real" argument for doing just about anything in the game. If you're not faithful, then obviously that spells trouble for the ME1 romance, possibly an additional headache for Shepard. The ME1 romance options could argue with the ME2 romance options as well.

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I chose to have my female Shep stay faithful because

01] Garrus : he's more of a brother-in-arms (Band of Brothers) so I  find romancing him is rather weird. I get more of this close comrade feeling doing his mission, Shep questioning his decision, etc.  Love? Yes. But not that kind of love.

02] Jacob : he has a history with Miranda, a bit of a blockhead so rather pointless than to be professional with him

03] Thane : flash in the pan ... nah, association period is so short. Nope

Besdies, I like the reunion scene on Horizon, despite the negative aspect. So, no romance for any of my female Sheps in ME2.

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 04 février 2010 - 11:39 .


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I for one loved Ashley as a character in Mass Effect 1, i had allready made my mind up that i would stay faithfull to her and hope for some sort of reward for that in ME3. But i have to admit it was hard, i started to like Tali alot as a character and i actually felt quite bad having to turn her down late on in her romance story, same with Miranda. I think that these possible relationships in ME2 are to test the relationships from the original. With my Shepard holding Ashley's picture before going into the Omega 4 relay, the email from Ashley and the brief encounter on Horizon where a hug was exchanged, there is alot more than a hint that Ashley still has feelings for you and that gives the relationship alot of hope going into ME3. Those of us that actually really liked our li from the original and choose to stay faithfull will hopefully be greatly rewarded in ME3, thats why you should remain faithfull!

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My ME1 Shep romanced Liara, because I liked everything about her, and I stayed faithful through ME2. The scenes that we got regarding the Liara LI were certainly limited, but they proved their point (The quick kiss on Illium, the staring longingly at the picture before the Collector Base) Shepard obviously still has feelings for Liara, and it appears that Liara still has feelings for Shepard. She is probably under constant surveillance because of her job, so she doesn't want to express herself too much, for fear in possibly losing Shepard again to the SB, or something.

The lack of expression of feelings on Shepard's part made me mad, yes, but I can see that it will continue in ME3.

Therefore, I'll be staying faithful.