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smitysmit

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this game is really difficult i am struggeling at bits on easy mode! why cant it be as easy as mass effect 2 on easy XD  also how do i get onto other campaigns instead of the joining the grey wardens as i ahve had 2 worriors and a elf mage and they all becaome gray wardens ??

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NytFantom

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other campaigns option is for stand alone dlc mods. like the little red riding wolf redux one. they are meant to be a thing for the gamers to work with and share amongst the community. the story all follow the tale the grey warden's battle against the blight in one of ferelden's darkest hour. besides, the point of the title "Origins" is that each of the origins are different and duncan only recruits one of the 6 possible candidates.



Also, I found difficulty actually lacking on normal. Once i shifted it up to hard it was a little more on par with my own play level. but that's me personally. i still have trouble on nightmare.

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Lith Maethor

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you... do realise the game is about the Grey Wardens, right?

(yes, this includes your PC, i think it even says that on the box)

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O lol diesnt matter about the campaign then, its still hard im at the part in the temple where you go get something and i go up a hill and their are loads of worriors mages and baby dragons.iI ok when thre all in front of me but some dragonlings come from behind me and ownd my mage! then everyone else ends up dieing!!

also i dont have a game box, downloaded off steam.

Modifié par smitysmit, 02 février 2010 - 09:18 .


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BroBear Berbil

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The game isn't too hard. Most likely the way you are approaching the combat in the game can be handled differently. Make use of the pause feature and plan out your attacks. Also, prioritize your targets and build your group so that they can deal with different situations (I don't mean multi-weapon specs) and compliment your character.

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It depends on your experience and/or play style. Even though I played BG1 & 2, PS:T, and KoTOR 1 &2 I was quite rusty when I came to DA:O. Normal was *so* hard for me. I died so much. I didn't know how to use tactics or what spells were good or anything about aggro. Since then, I've replayed using an almost identical build to my first character, and found it easy as heck. I think a lot of it is just familiarising yourself with the game mechanics. I tend to play on hard at the moment, as its not too difficult but still challenging in parts, which is how I like it. I remember I had one run-through on Easy though and was shocked at how quickly everything died.

Seriously, though - just get used to the game. Even if you die 300 times it doesn't matter in the long-run.

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smitysmit

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LOL its kind of the first time i have played a game like this (except wow which is alot like it).

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Lith Maethor

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...would it be mean of me to say that it shows?

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oblivionenss

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Lith Maethor wrote...

...would it be mean of me to say that it shows?


No most, WoW players play it and they think what real RPGs means :wizard:

Modifié par oblivionenss, 02 février 2010 - 09:28 .


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oblivionenss

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double post

Modifié par oblivionenss, 02 février 2010 - 09:28 .


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smitysmit

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LOL i dont play wow anymore i played for like a month before christmas and got bored.

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Lith Maethor wrote...

...would it be mean of me to say that it shows?


Admittedly even people who play WoW don't know how to play WoW. 4 hour fail PUG FTW!!!


Anyway, here are some tips to win:

Use crowd control. Sleep, Waking Nightmare, Paralyize. Use just use a good healer.

Get your tank to use threaten and taunt so that you don't have to heal everyone.

Focus fire. Have tactics set up that everyone attacks the target of the tank. It's more efficient to kill one at a time than to kill everyone at once, also keeps aggro on the tank. Set up characters to use a health potion at 25% health. Least powerful.

Pause the game, study what is happening, adjust accordingly, use skills available. Try to kill mages first as they tend to be a headache. You could also CC them if they are too far away. I don't know, that's all I got.

Modifié par TyroneTasty, 02 février 2010 - 09:47 .


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BroBear Berbil

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oblivionenss wrote...

Lith Maethor wrote...

...would it be mean of me to say that it shows?


No most, WoW players play it and they think what real RPGs means :wizard:


Actually I raided in WoW for years, and in FFXI prior to that, and EQOA before that. If you're familiar with MMOs you can easily approach DA much the same way when it comes to party tactics and boss fights.

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OnionXI wrote...

Actually I raided in WoW for years, and in FFXI prior to that, and EQOA before that. If you're familiar with MMOs you can easily approach DA much the same way when it comes to party tactics and boss fights.


Call me crazy but I found the similarities to WoW's combat kind of nice since I did actually enjoy the tactical side of WoW or at least the group dynamics. I often said I wished I could just tank every so often without giving my life away. Now I can! :o Now Bioware just needs to push the encounter complexity.

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Too hard? The game was really easy even on Nigthmare diffuculty. I kind of miss the times when games were actually hard...

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After the first day or two, I felt the mechanics came rather easily. You could with a pause button assemble your characters, etc.



On my last run on hard, I tried to play everything in real time without using pause and that was very difficult/cumbersome. Thats the real challenge in the game imo.

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TyroneTasty wrote...

OnionXI wrote...

Actually I raided in WoW for years, and in FFXI prior to that, and EQOA before that. If you're familiar with MMOs you can easily approach DA much the same way when it comes to party tactics and boss fights.


Call me crazy but I found the similarities to WoW's combat kind of nice since I did actually enjoy the tactical side of WoW or at least the group dynamics. I often said I wished I could just tank every so often without giving my life away. Now I can! :o Now Bioware just needs to push the encounter complexity.


Haha yeah, when I first started playing DA I thought "Hey this is like playing WoW but without the terrible people." It's more fun to heal Alistair than say...cocky guild MT. <_<

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Hey, don't worry, be happy. I downloaded off Steam, too, which meant I didn't get a manual :( Like you, hadn't played a game like this before. And I got absolute-a-ly SMOOSHED on Normal mode. I turned it down to Easy and had a much better time of it.



I actually would avoid reading the spoilers section here. Goofing up your first character is no big deal-- but the game shines in narrative and you can only read a book for the first time once. I envy people who watched Psycho for the first time not knowing about the shower scene or Norman's mother. Spoilers spoil.



That said, there are a few good spoiler free guides out there. This one talks about how to build characters:

http://www.gamefaqs....le/950916/58309



And here's a general tips guide I found useful:

http://social.biowar...66/index/266227



I also liked the IGN guide:

http://guides.ign.co...217/page_2.html



Again, don't stress too much the first playthrough, just enjoy yourself. After that, come back and read all about how to solo a dual weapon rogue on Nightmare wearing nothing but your bunny slippers of evasion (+6 defense, +20 cunning)

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If you're having trouble with any specific fights, you could try the link in my signature.

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Some good general advice:



You want Cunning to be at least 20+ regardless of class. You also want to put points into Coercion. This is a role playing game. The better you are at persuading/intimidating people, the better the game will play for you.



Pause often. If you downloaded it off of Steam, then you're playing on a PC. The pause button is the space bar. Always pause before a fight. Always. Think about what you want to do. This includes your companions. You can preset their tactics for them, but if this is your first time playing a Bioware rpg, then you probably want to cherry pick what each one of them does.



Healing is your friend. You can get healing from either Health Poultices or magic. Both are good to have.



If your party has a rogue, then they will do more damage one of two ways. Either have them shoot arrows or position them behind their target. Rogues get extra goodness for stabbing from behind.



Whoever your biggest baddest, toughest warrior is in your party needs to have the best armour they can wear and you can afford. They then need to do everything they can to annoy the bad guys. Taunt, Stoneroar, etc are the ticket for them. Don't worry too much about damage. What you want is for all the enemy to concentrate their attacks on your main fighter (generally known as a tank). Keep your main healed up (either by magic or poultices). This frees everyone else to do the damage.



Enjoy!

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Once you understand that blindly running into a big group of enemies isn't the way to approach a battle, the game gets easy. I bet once you finish your first run and get a feel for tactics, micromanaging, buffs, builds, etc...you'll be back on the forum saying it's too easy.



Pause often, micromanage your party, use your head.



Side note, I do enjoy the similarity to WoW. With my Rogue character I especially feel the similarity. I find myself telling my party to hold and just going off on my own with my bow and pulling mobs.

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how do i train the woman from the swamp to be a healer?

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smitysmit wrote...

how do i train the woman from the swamp to be a healer?


Take the Heal spell, and then when she hits level 14, take the Spirit Healer Specialization, which can be bought from a Merchant if l recall correctly.

But Heal spell and making potions can cover most healing needs.

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Morrigan from the Korcari Wilds?

If you have the PC version you can download the respecialization mod to respec her, or wait until she is high enough level to unlock a second specialization. IMO, the vanilla companion builds are rubish.

http://social.bioware.com/project/469/

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It's difficult at the 1st half of levels and once you have all your abilities/spells towards lvl 25 it is a joke. That is what I felt my 1st playthrough on normal. All you need is patience and a desire to win. Some fights can be won on simple luck and cheap tactics.