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[Guaritor]

Orogenic wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...

ScroguBlitzen wrote...

This review was right on the money. It seems to be the only review I've read that was written by someone that really loved ME1.

There is no question that ME2 is a great game. The problem is it does not feel like a spiritual successor to ME1 which was awesome.

I will probably go back and replay ME1 a couple more times, but I doubt I'll even bother with a second playthrough of ME2.

I don't really follow this. The "spirit" of ME1 was undoubtedly in its storytelling. ME2, for whatever differences it has, certainly continues telling that great story.

Ponder this...

After Luke Skywalker was awarded his medal for blowing up the Deathstar, he died in a freak landspeeder accident.

Darth Vader found his dessicated remains a couple years later and reconstituted him (sort of like a sea monkey).

After his revitalization, Luke decides that Darth and his Empire buddies really aren't as bad as he thought....

In fact, they actually have the best interests of the human race at heart. 

It turns out Han Solo really WAS a two-bit criminal and Princess Leia is a tree-hugging space hippie.

Luke gets his own star destroyer and heads out to show the galaxy what human domination is all about.....



Sound like a story you'd like to hear?

...? How does that have anything to do with ME2? The empire would be comparable to the reapers, not cerebrus...

*I guess SPOILERS (though most people probably know how the game starts by now)*




Now i guess if luke was rebuilt by some shady human organization that has a history of wanting whats best for humans, but in this case is fighting against the empire which is good for the whole galaxy, and luke decided that its best for the galaxy to accept help from this organization for the time being in his efforts to defeat darth vader because this organization can give him a ship and some badass crew to get the job done... then ya it might be close to ME2.  Actually wouldn't the role of shady beneficiary to luke be played by solo, so in this instance solo = cerebrus... o.O




*End i guess SPOILERS*

Modifié par Guaritor, 03 février 2010 - 05:40 .

[HawkeyeB55]

Veex wrote...

HawkeyeB55 wrote...

Thanks for the help.

You're welcome. To be more thorough, under your portrait there is a "My Games" tab which expands and gives the registration option.

I just did! Thanks, again.

[Veex]

Guaritor wrote...


...? How does that have anything to do with ME2? The empire would be comparable to the reapers, not cerebrus..

Not the greatest analogy ever, but I think we can see where he's coming from. He thinks that Shepard working with Cerberus is a little far fetched, given the conflict in the original game. While it is explained numerous times why he is allied with them now, I suppose it could be beyond someone's suspension of disbelief to think it plausible.

[For Humanity]

Finally a reviewer that tells it like it is.

[kiyyto]

sedrikhcain wrote...

kiyyto wrote...


I didn’t read any hostility.
He made sense to me.
In fact, you are the one who told him to go somewhere else and play something else, in a thread which is obviously critical of the game.

So, what’s up douche?

He said, in response to me "shove your you know what up your you know what", that would strike me as hostile. I really didn't mean to tick anyone off. that's not why i'm here. Just trying to get some other perspectives on the game.

Honestly, if you're into name-calling, etc. find someone else, please. I mean no one on these boards any ill will.

Peace

signed, the douche

lol, missed that.
I guess you’re right.
Relax!

Who cares.
You’re a douche.
I’m a douche.
whatever.

[kiyyto]

crackseed wrote...

Well stated Sedrik I found the review inaccurate in multiple areas, but I appreciate that he was concise and clear on his points/opinions - so it was a worthwhile read, even if I disagree heavily xD

As for Kalfear/Kiyyto, I wouldn't bother responding to them too much - when their condescending statements/inaccuracies fail, they resort to the tactics they accuse the fans of displaying [I won't say some fans don't do this, but doing it because others do it is just as sad] Report to Mod, move on and debate with people who are worthwhile IMO 

That’s not true.
I call a lot of people douche.
Don’t be a sissy.

[kiyyto]

corebit wrote...

Ever get the feeling that many people are simply looking for reviews that agree with them? If they don't like the game, they will consider all the positive reviews as "fanboyism" and "paid for" and consider any negative review as "great" and "objective"

True, be it vice versa or otherwise.

[kiyyto]

CMD-Shep wrote...

who cares what one dude says? It aint gonna change what I think of the game.
Developers/publishers don't ruin games. Ridiculously high expectations do.
Everyone wants the game to measure up to these lofty ideas they have in their heads so badly, that they forget to enjoy the game itself.

Exactly.
No one here is trying to change your mind either.
This thread is perfectly suited to people who agree with the reviewer.

It makes no sense why people who love the game go into threads just to tell other people that they are wrong.
You are a douche.
You’re douching up my thread, douchey.

[kiyyto]

CMD-Shep wrote...

Caion wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

Reviewers are people like you and me, everyone has different tastes and opinions

How easily people seem to forget or ignore this. I also find it puzzling how people hold up more negative/critical reviews as "honest" in comparison to more favorable ones. Nearly all reviews are honest. Simply saying what one wants to hear doesn't make it more "honest" than someone who says something that one doesn't agree with. In the end it's just one guy with an opinion, and that he or she shares that opinion in a blog or a written publication doesn't change this.

Dude, I was thinking the EXACT same thing.

Right, so you came into this thread to what... find people who think the review is spot on and tell them it is just their opinion?

Obviously.

[kiyyto]

jmf4 wrote...

Fhaileas wrote...

I'm so glad to see a more rational and objective perspective emerging amongst some of the newer reviews. Lends credence to not only the true nature of the game but also to the repute of a respected publication like the NYT.

Wait, you're serious? Haha, carry on.

Again, more douches who say one thing and do another.
We get it, your opinions are the only ones that matter.
Anything else?

[kiyyto]

Curry Noodles wrote...

kiyyto wrote...

 An honest review.

You found a review that agrees with you, so clearly it's the only review where the reviewer was honest.  Everyone else was lying because it's impossible for anyone to have different tastes and like a game that you dislike.  

You are an idiot.
The reviewer says the game is great, he likes the game, but you come here and tell me I have no integrity.
What is your purpose other than to suck air through your mouth.

Douche much?

[kiyyto]

Orogenic wrote...

newcomplex wrote...

Orogenic wrote...

newcomplex wrote...

Where are you getting all this two demionshionality from.   Seriously.   Tali had ONE CONVERSATIONS THE ENTIRE GAME, AND GARUSS HAD TWO.

Your imagining their personalities when a significant in game one simply did not exist.   In ME2, almost all characters have fully fleshed out back stories.   Also, I just flat out disagree when you say they are "one demensional".   Each character sort of is presented to you as a stereotypical ramboing badass, and each develop into deep complex characters with their own motivations.   

Yelling? Personal insults? Gross inaccuracies? Typical.

Young poster? Perhaps.

Take seriously? Doubtful.

Salarians process emotional conflicts much more rapidly than humans....

....

Seriously?   You can't yell over the Internet, and at what point in what point do I make a personal insult?

If your not willing to defend a opinion, don't bother posting it.    Read my post carefully, at what point do I make ANY insult towards you?   I think its hilarious too, because you just previously posted: 

caps = yelling

calling me delusional = personal insult

one conversation with Tali?  Everyone knows this is hogwash.

have a nice day

Why did you come to this thread.
Are you stupid?

Do you think that your opinion is more valuable than anyone else’s?
Or, is Mass Effect 2 so important to you that you have to go to critical threads to defend shep’s honor?

I for one am not bothering people in the Mass Effect 2 is awesome threads and telling them how crazy they are. I couldn’t care less what they think. I already know i disagree. I already know they like the game tons and don’t care.

In summary, you’re a douche.

[kiyyto]

sedrikhcain wrote...

stethnorun wrote...

 Not to state the perfectly obvious, but the NYT has lost just about all its credibility since its downward spiral that began around 2000. All newspapers have lost subscribers but the NYT took such a huge dip in the last 10 years that it's pretty self-evident that the American public has soured on them as being a place for objectivity.

None of this is relevant here. Wouldn't it be more constructive to attack the review on its own merits, if you disagree with it?

Yes.

[Kalfear]

crackseed wrote ...

As for Kalfear/Kiyyto, I wouldn't bother responding to them too much - when their condescending statements/inaccuracies fail, they resort to the tactics they accuse the fans of displaying [I won't say some fans don't do this, but doing it because others do it is just as sad] Report to Mod, move on and debate with people who are worthwhile IMO 

Really, what inaccuracies?

I stopped talking to the troll earlier in thread (not Kyyto) cause he was making crap up rather then debating maturely.
What inaccuracies did I state thats not been talked about by the vast majority of people posting on this forum and actually outlined in this very reveiw which is probably the best and most honest reveiw written to date.

I love these kids that run their mouths over the internet like this guy. Go ahead report me to a mod, they will laugh at you and move on because me posting facts is not againt the TOS here.

Just because you dont agree doesnt make you right! I cant help notice that all you little teen ager internet warriors never talk about the topic at hand, you attack me and others, make threads calling us whiners, cry when people dont agree with you, but you never talk about the topic.

Floors all yours, prove what I said wrong but if you say stuff thats not there is, I have no time for you because making crap up isnt maturely debating and when your older you will come to understand how annoying that is to adults like myself.

Modifié par Kalfear, 03 février 2010 - 06:35 .

[trope]

Lame review, and only one among many. Most liked the streamlined rpg elements. This guy is so hung up on this rpg question. Sorry pal but most reviews are positive, sales a great, and other then your dumb review, most have seen this game for what it is, a great rpg shooter. Items, skills blah blah. I ended up walking around with 150 items, mostly guns, in me1. That sucked and I'm so glad they streamlined it.

[kiyyto]

trope wrote...

Lame review, and only one among many. Most liked the streamlined rpg elements. This guy is so hung up on this rpg question. Sorry pal but most reviews are positive, sales a great, and other then your dumb review, most have seen this game for what it is, a great rpg shooter. Items, skills blah blah. I ended up walking around with 150 items, mostly guns, in me1. That sucked and I'm so glad they streamlined it.

Wow, you are an idiot.
I call you out to be an idiot because the reviewer liked the game.

For everyone else out there who’s emotional state is inextricably linked to this game, the NYT doesn’t hate ME2. In fact, they pretty much like it with only a few exceptions.

[Wintermist]

novaseeker wrote...

"Hybrids are certainly possible. The original Mass Effect was a role-playing game that BioWare was ambitiously, almost rambunctiously, trying to cram into the form of an action game. With Mass Effect 2, by contrast, BioWare clearly decided to build the game as a shooter type first, leaving in only the lightest of customization options for each character — with far fewer skill options than in the first game — and fuse them with a combat system that can be played almost entirely as a real-time shooter. In terms of the combat dynamics, imagine Gears of War lite with some science-fiction magic powers.
There’s nothing wrong with that; it works well. But it leaves Mass Effect 2 feeling a bit generic. By role-playing-game standards, it is unacceptably thin in its core play systems. ...

Mass Effect 2 is a wonderful example of what a world-class developer can produce when it wants to create a comfortably popular and profitable sequel in an established mass-market franchise. It is not, however, an example of what a world-class developer can produce when it challenges itself to new heights. BioWare, we’re waiting."

 

This does sound very accurate to me.

[twaninator]

Guy is smart. An honest review.

[oHasho]

The review seems fair when considering the game by RPG standards...but fun is fun. I find the ME2 experience much more enjoyable than so many other games I've played, it really does deserve the high scores its been getting.

[maladosteo]

trope wrote...

Lame review, and only one among many. Most liked the streamlined rpg elements. This guy is so hung up on this rpg question. Sorry pal but most reviews are positive, sales a great, and other then your dumb review, most have seen this game for what it is, a great rpg shooter. Items, skills blah blah. I ended up walking around with 150 items, mostly guns, in me1. That sucked and I'm so glad they streamlined it.

What you just said made no f'n sense at all. He's hung up on the RPG aspect....because YES, that's right it was supposed to be an rpg/3PS, and Bioware ended up axing a TON of the RPG elements.

Sure they streamlined the shooting aspect....but they cut out a ton of stuff.

[Elanareon]

The game is good, no doubt about that. But global cooldowns is stupid, and shields preventing skills is lame. That is why this game is a shooter! Its obvious they wanted to make guns have the upper hand...

[Elanareon]

One more thing, to the guy who was comparing the number of skills of me1 v me2. LOL did you know all the bullet skills of me2 was the customizable bullet mod in me1? So your comparison is LAME! Bullet mods is so much better that those bullet skills...

[LostHH]

I agree with the reviewer. Good review.

[BouhPwet]

Good review in the OP.

Especially the part about the "comfort" (no-risk) zone and making profit ; it's like the Hollywood mania struck the game industry: take no chances, use generic and proven formulas, draft simple scenarios... If 1st movie is a hit, make a sequel: people will go see it even if reviews aren't all that good...

Oh, and if the sequel racks in much $ anyway, then it must be good, right ? (not).

[LoweGear]

Elanareon wrote...

One more thing, to the guy who was comparing the number of skills of me1 v me2. LOL did you know all the bullet skills of me2 was the customizable bullet mod in me1? So your comparison is LAME! Bullet mods is so much better that those bullet skills...

How is bullet mods - where you put in the highest level mod you can find anyway (why would you prefer Shredder Rounds XIII over Shredder Rounds IX?), and which you have to change by opening the inventory - better than ammo powers, where you level up it's damage effects and select from a couple of new variants when maxed out, and you can switch bullet powers with a single hotkey?