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[XenogearsOwnsAll]

They finish building the Reaper and then what?

Launch a one-Reaper attack on the Citadel without the conduit and try and activate the Relay?? (just stupid)

or

Were the Reapers really relying on the Collectors to build a Reaper army from within the galaxy (which would take decades, but I guess they have all the time in the Universe) and conquer it, taking over the Citadel?  (This seems more plausible, but it's still a bit dumb...for example, they would have to eventually hit Earth to acquire enough humans which seems a bit far-fetched)

And what, when it didn't work out they just go, "oh, we better just fly over there now"?!?!

I'm hoping that the Reapers were planning something more devious involving the human Reaper (to be revealed in ME3...maybe a fusion of the highly adaptable human DNA into a Reaper would create some sort of uber-Reaper or something?) and the whole "backup Reaper army" thing is just a red herring.  Unfortunately, it's more likely that it is one of the above two answers.

Modifié par XenogearsOwnsAll, 03 février 2010 - 01:06 .

[Sursion]

The Reapers (who were controlling the collectors) wanted to know why humans were so successful, and by using humans to make a new reaper, they would hopefully gain the advantages that humans have. What they would do with it once they completed it will never be known.... except maybe in ME3.

[ReubenLiew]

They were trying to ****** Shepard off.

You know, just to see what he does.

It's like a game to them.

[Direwolf029]

Maybe a replacement for Sovereign

[KalosCast]

Since it looks like they're just flying into the galaxy anyway, you think they could have done that and made human-reapers when there was 0 chance of the plan failing. As Garrus points out "they killed you once, and all it did was ****** you off"

[XenogearsOwnsAll]

Yeah, my fear is that Bioware meant for you to assume that the Collectors were going to do one of the two things that I listed, and never mention the human Reaper again. Then again, Bioware tends to meticulously explain every single detail of every single thing as opposed to leaving Reaper-sized plot holes, so I have faith.

[SunfighterG8]

*shrug* i figured the collectors were just the scientist sect for the reapers, they harvest intresting organics for the reapers to play with and apparently that base acted as a reaper shipyard construction area.



I dont think these were seperate plans honestly..like Plan A was the attack on the citadel and plan b was the reapers..... I think the collectors were just another arm of the same plan and were part for a 'normal' reaper invasion. Plus i think we activated something by going though the Omega gate...Something bad...considering every other gate is white/blue colored...and this special gate was red...yet acted just like a normal gate...so my guess is it has a second function that was activated by a reaper signal IFF.

[Myrmedus]

I can't say for sure but I felt it was fairly obvious: the Human-Reaper was meant to take over Sovereign's job in securing passage for the rest of the Reapers to invade.

[KnightofPhoenix]

"Your species has caught the attention of those infinately your greater".

My guess is they want to "absorb" humanity just like they absorbed other aliens. What would the Human Reaper do afterthat? I have no idea.

"You have failed. We will find another way".

Another way to what? That remains to be seen.

[NoUserNameHere]

With a new reaper, they could indoctronate another species like they did the Rachni. Then they could launch an attack on the Citadel again.

[XenogearsOwnsAll]

ReubenLiew wrote...

They were trying to ****** Shepard off.
You know, just to see what he does.
It's like a game to them.

You know, I actually kind of like this explanation, but it's kind of ruined by the fact that Harbinger gets all pissed off that you ruined his plan at the end.  The game makes it clear that the Reapers were really banking on their plan involving the Collectors.  It really seems to indicate that they had some sort of grand plan involving the human Reaper that was never brought to fruition, which gives me more hope that Bioware will explain it in ME3.

[SunfighterG8]

ReubenLiew wrote...

They were trying to ****** Shepard off.
You know, just to see what he does.
It's like a game to them.

Trying to lure the organics to activate something unaware they are doing so....as the Patriarch on Omega said...you screw with their family and they will attack you all stupid... We probably activated something for the reapers when we passed through the omega 4 gate with a reaper IFF.

[XenogearsOwnsAll]

NoUserNameHere wrote...

With a new reaper, they could indoctronate another species like they did the Rachni. Then they could launch an attack on the Citadel again.

Seems kind of repetitive on the writers' part, no?

[XenogearsOwnsAll]

SunfighterG8 wrote...

ReubenLiew wrote...

They were trying to ****** Shepard off.
You know, just to see what he does.
It's like a game to them.

Trying to lure the organics to activate something unaware they are doing so....as the Patriarch on Omega said...you screw with their family and they will attack you all stupid... We probably activated something for the reapers when we passed through the omega 4 gate with a reaper IFF.

See, THAT'S the kind of thing that I want to see Bioware pull with Mass Effect 3.  Like, the whole thing was just a trick to get them to use the Reaper IFF on the gate, and they were building the Human Reaper just to screw with Shepards' head.

Now HOW BADASS would that be.  It would be like the greatest ironic F-you they could pull on humanity.

Edit: ****, that theory is also ruined by Harbinger getting pissed off at the end.  But what I'm saying is, I really hope there is some kind of twist like that involved.

Modifié par XenogearsOwnsAll, 03 février 2010 - 01:19 .

[withateethuh]

Direwolf029 wrote...

Maybe a replacement for Sovereign

This is what I was thinking. Sovereign made a fatal mistake by fusing himself with Saren. It seems like there's something about humans that could potentially make a far superior type of Reaper than those who are similar to Sovereign.

It seemed like it was more or less an experiment to see what they could accomplish with human DNA fused with reaper technology before a full scale invasion.

[Frotality]

obviously their plan was to ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL:alien:

[Annihilator27]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

"Your species has caught the attention of those infinately your greater".
My guess is they want to "absorb" humanity just like they absorbed other aliens. What would the Human Reaper do afterthat? I have no idea.
"You have failed. We will find another way".
Another way to what? That remains to be seen.

Another way to get to the milky way, Looks like the whole fleet is flying there.

[KnightofPhoenix]

annihilator27 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

"Your species has caught the attention of those infinately your greater".
My guess is they want to "absorb" humanity just like they absorbed other aliens. What would the Human Reaper do afterthat? I have no idea.
"You have failed. We will find another way".
Another way to what? That remains to be seen.

Another way to get to the milky way, Looks like the whole fleet is flying there.

Probably, but how would a Human reaper help?

[XenogearsOwnsAll]

Okay, if you look at it from another perspective, Sovereign's job was to facilitate the invasion of the galaxy by the Reapers. So, I guess it would make sense if they created a replacement, not necessarily to try and activate the Citadel, but to find some other way to transport them there and catch the Galaxy off-guard, or to otherwise prepare the galaxy for the impending invasion (possibly stir up conflicts between races to prevent them from uniting, etc). This explanation works, but I'm really hoping that there is SOME kind of clever twist to the intended purpose of the Human Reaper.

Also, if they end up just flying into the Milky Way I'm gonna be PISSED.  I mean, I know the point of the Citadel Relay was to launch a surprise attack on the center of government of the galaxy, and them flying all the way over gives tthe galaxy time to prepare, but COME ON.  Bioware should think of something better than "ok, we had better just fly over there then"

Modifié par XenogearsOwnsAll, 03 février 2010 - 01:27 .

[Brand New]

Whos to say that is just one section of the reapers & that the reapers aren't just floating around dark space in the billions doing this to every galaxy there is and in the end unlike most of us want to imagine bioware takes a bullet to our heads and the reapers prevail and the cycle isn't broken?



Crazy and far fetched, but for the love of humanity in one game i would like to see evil prevail...always!

[Anticitizen1]

Yes, I always thought that it was the Reapers plan just to lure humans into the Omega 4 Relay.

What I don't get however, is why the Collectors attacked the Normandy, apparently trying to kill Shepard, and then turned right around and wanted to collect his body. Why didn't they just board the ship the first time like they did later in the game if they wanted to get Shepard? Destroying the ship ran the risk of completely incinerating him.

And honestly. Come on. The Illusive Man has to be the Shadow Broker. He's just playing both sides, whichever one wins, he comes out on top.

[KalosCast]

Humanity killed a god, so now they have to become the new one. Haven't you people ever played God of War?



The more I think about it, the more I believe that Humanity's actions in ME1 gained at least a grudging respect from the Reapers. This is them saying that we're good enough to be a Reaper. It's actually a horrifying, bloody, compliment.

[XenogearsOwnsAll]

Anticitizen1 wrote...

Yes, I always thought that it was the Reapers plan just to lure humans into the Omega 4 Relay.
What I don't get however, is why the Collectors attacked the Normandy, apparently trying to kill Shepard, and then turned right around and wanted to collect his body. Why didn't they just board the ship the first time like they did later in the game if they wanted to get Shepard? Destroying the ship ran the risk of completely incinerating him.
And honestly. Come on. The Illusive Man has to be the Shadow Broker. He's just playing both sides, whichever one wins, he comes out on top.

Again, as much as I love this theory, why did Harbinger get pissed at the end that his plan had failed?  I don't think this explanation is possible.  However, I DO think that the Omega 4 Relay may have been utilized in some way to transport the rest of the reapers, had the Human Reaper been completed.  Perhaps if the Human Reaper used it, the rest of them might have been able to lock onto its coordinates and use it, or something like that.  Again, I hope the explanation is something like this.