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[Sageless Ranger]

Hey guys, from the Tali thread here, posting to show my support for Liara! She was my LI in ME1 and am very excited to continue my relationship with her In ME3! Of course i'll will do Tali's first =P lol, anyway I hope that bioware concludes all of the romances in ME3 epically, too many games have you parting ways once your mission is over. WTF is that? that makes it seem like that the whole romance didn't mean as much as it should have, they should put unique endings for all of the romances, including marriage, such as for Liara maybe paragon continuing researching ancient ciivlizations, or for renegade teaming up as information brokers. Also it would be cool to see Liara have your kid, lol Asari shepard!

[Pres9]

that's something i wanna see too

[jlb524]

ratzerman wrote...

Speaking of the nuke gun, who vaporized themselves the first time they used it?

Raise your hands.....

*looks around suspiciously, raises hand*

Is this a soldier thing?  I've never seen a 'nuke gun'. 

[Sageless Ranger]

jlb524 wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Speaking of the nuke gun, who vaporized themselves the first time they used it?

Raise your hands.....

*looks around suspiciously, raises hand*

Is this a soldier thing?  I've never seen a 'nuke gun'. 

They are referring to the heavy weapon Cain i presume, any class has access to it, for the right price of course

[jlb524]

mione wrote...

I thought I read somewhere when the comic was coming out that it would tie into ME2 as DLC later on, so maybe thats what that sound file everyone is talking about is related too.

I've read the same thing.   I think it was an interview with Mac Walters, saying that they planned on having DLC to tie Me2 to Redemption.  Plans do change, though  

[seyera]

Larask wrote...

Hey fellow Liara fans! Since some people missed some conversations with Liara, or just want to see the little time we have with her again in ME2, I decided to create three videos with her: the first time you meet her, and the other two after the two assignments. I usually don't create youtube videos, I just watch them, but I can spare the moment for her.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHEgG0NkAmk

Thanks!

[jlb524]

Sageless Ranger wrote...


They are referring to the heavy weapon Cain i presume, any class has access to it, for the right price of course

OK, I probably have it then, I just don't really use heavy weapons.  I'm an Infiltrator...I like finesse. 

[ShutIn35]

I definately want to have Liara back as a squadmate in ME3.  Actually I was a bit disappointed she wasn't one in ME2.  Definately want a chance to continue the relationship with her too.  I was a little surprised by her general nonchalance toward Shepard in ME2.  Hope she's a bit more receptive in ME3 & appreciative too.  After all, I passed up alot of opportunities for wild sex with hot chicks in ME2  for the sake of staying faithful to her.

[bjdbwea]

Am I the only one who has no interest whatsoever in comics about video game characters? I expect and in fact demand that everything is explained in-game. As much as I like some characters in video games (Liara included), I'm only interested in them if the medium featuring them is a video game. If done well, it's a form of entertainment that no movie and certainly no comic can compare with. Still, if there's money to be made, fine. But it'd be quite disappointing if they, just to spice up those comics, make decisions that have major influences on our game. For all I care, they should just separate comic and game, make it independent, so that neither influences the other.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 05 février 2010 - 11:00 .

[DigitalMaster37]

jlb524 wrote...

Sageless Ranger wrote...


They are referring to the heavy weapon Cain i presume, any class has access to it, for the right price of course

OK, I probably have it then, I just don't really use heavy weapons.  I'm an Infiltrator...I like finesse. 

Yeah, well after I blew myself to bits, I became more of a finesse player as a result...Scarred for life...

[glen55]

seyera wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Selling or giving my body to Cerberus is a crime for any paragon.

I have this conspiracy theory... BioWare actually wants to dump characters like Liara, so they don't give them their full attention.

Well the other option was allowing your body to be given to the collectors. Who knows what the hell they would have done with it. I think Liara made the right decision IMO. If anything it shows she would do anything to keep you alive.

There's no Taco Bell option?

[Driveninhifi]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

I think it is somehow related. The SB and the reapers are indeed connected if you look at the comic. The collectors want Sheperd, we now know the collectors are controlled by the reapers. The SB was working to help the COllectors, I'd say perfect tie in. So I am now singing to a different tune as it relates to if the Liara DLC will finish the SB story line. I now doubt it.

Right, but the problem is that you don't know how they are connected in the ME2 timeframe. Even Liara doesn't know what the SB is doing with the Collectors. And now that you've wiped out the Collectors, that piece of her motivation goes away.

As it stands, there are too many missing pieces. If she has been waiting for Shepard to return, why would she let Shepard leave again (possibly to be killed!) so easily? Not to say she should join up, but her telling Shepard she'd like nothing more than to be together again and wants his/her help once the Collectors are dealt with would make things feel much more natural.

The game only scratches the surface - there needs to be a ton more depth there. There needs to be several more conversations on the level of the final one about the body.
It feels contrived - the writers are holding back. And it feels very artificial because it would be natural for Shepard to want to know exactly what happened to Liara. Especially if it concerns him and doubly so if Shepard is in love with her. Not being able to bring that up makes absolutely no sense - it feels like it's solely because Bioware wants the player to cheat on their love interest.

Modifié par Driveninhifi, 05 février 2010 - 11:34 .

[DigitalMaster37]

Driveninhifi wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

I think it is somehow related. The SB and the reapers are indeed connected if you look at the comic. The collectors want Sheperd, we now know the collectors are controlled by the reapers. The SB was working to help the COllectors, I'd say perfect tie in. So I am now singing to a different tune as it relates to if the Liara DLC will finish the SB story line. I now doubt it.

Right, but the problem is that you don't know how they are connected in the ME2 timeframe. Even Liara doesn't know what the SB is doing with the Collectors. And now that you've wiped out the Collectors, that piece of her motivation goes away.

As it stands, there are too many missing pieces. If she has been waiting for Shepard to return, why would she let Shepard leave again (possibly to be killed!) so easily? Not to say she should join up, but her telling Shepard she'd like nothing more than to be together again and wants his/her help once the Collectors are dealt with would make things feel much more natural.

The game only scratches the surface - there needs to be a ton more depth there. There needs to be several more conversations on the level of the final one about the body.
It feels contrived - the writers are holding back. And it feels very artificial because it would be natural for Shepard to want to know exactly what happened to Liara. Especially if it concerns him and doubly so if Shepard is in love with her. Not being able to bring that up makes absolutely no sense - it feels like it's solely because Bioware wants the player to cheat on their love interest.

See this is where I'm thinking there is some situation where she can give something away or she might be under threat not to befriend or link up with Sheperd or someone dies, or she dies. Something is behind her cover up and new outer shell. I'm betting on it. That's why I can't wait to find the truth and who's behind it so I can take him/her/it/them out.

[Dark Glasses]

I want my true Biotic companion back!

[Fallen311]

I definitely want to see a good conclusion to the relationship with Liara, I hate games that let you start something like that and never refer to it later in the game.

It made the first game so much more real, and involving. It made it feel like you had a personal investment in the game and in the relationship, rather than just playing the game for the sole purpose of getting achievements.

That's what I really miss from the first game. Even the relationships you can build in ME2 seemed stale and simple, you never really have to work for it.

I would be very disappointed if ME3 isn't more focused on the relationships from the first 2 games, and more so on the relationships from the first game.

I needs me my Liara!

[Driveninhifi]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

See this is where I'm thinking there is some situation where she can give something away or she might be under threat not to befriend or link up with Sheperd or someone dies, or she dies. Something is behind her cover up and new outer shell. I'm betting on it. That's why I can't wait to find the truth and who's behind it so I can take him/her/it/them out.

Sure, something has to be up - but it makes some sense for her to be standoffish at first because she's afraid Shepard will hate her. Her being hunted by the Shadow Broker would also make her paranoid and lonely.

I think they needed more sequences to show that she really doesn't like the violence and everything that comes with her current position. I can't imagine it appeals to her. I can see her enjoying figuring out the puzzles and sleuthing, but not enjoying strongarming people. They should show it really weighing on her - it would be a great insight to have her confide something like that to Shepard. It would also go a long way towards explaining why she's so cold. Having to do things you hate for two years would make anyone bitter.

I'm not sure I buy the danger thing, it seems too boring. Plus it wouldn't be that hard of a problem for Shepard to solve - and she would know that.

I think they need to give the player more information and explore her character more deeply. There's a great opportunity to explore her inner conflicts once Shepard returns to her. She probably wants nothing more than to be with Shepard again, but feels she can't. You aren't really given a good reason in game. There's a lot of good stuff there and I wish they had gone into it.

[Thievius Sisko]

Sageless Ranger wrote...

Hey guys, from the Tali thread here, posting to show my support for Liara! She was my LI in ME1 and am very excited to continue my relationship with her In ME3! Of course i'll will do Tali's first =P lol, anyway I hope that bioware concludes all of the romances in ME3 epically, too many games have you parting ways once your mission is over. WTF is that? that makes it seem like that the whole romance didn't mean as much as it should have, they should put unique endings for all of the romances, including marriage, such as for Liara maybe paragon continuing researching ancient ciivlizations, or for renegade teaming up as information brokers. Also it would be cool to see Liara have your kid, lol Asari shepard!

This is exactly how I feel also. I think that all possible LI's should be included in ME3, and I don't think *any* of the romances should be sidelined this time. I think everyone deserves an epic conclusion for their chosen romance.

p.s. those unique ending ideas for romances sound great! That adds some awesome replayability

[MassEffect762]

All romances WILL suffer greatly because of all the possibilities, you wait and see.

[jlb524]

MassEffect762 wrote...

All romances WILL suffer greatly because of all the possibilities, you wait and see.

Hmm...you might be right.  There are, what, 9 of them now?  ME2 had too many, IMO.

[Nozybidaj]

Driveninhifi wrote...

There's a lot of good stuff there and I wish they had gone into it.

Well if they had, they were worried people wouldn't gravitate to their Yvonne blow up doll.

[Nozybidaj]

MassEffect762 wrote...

All romances WILL suffer greatly because of all the possibilities, you wait and see.

Yeah I'm expecting them to be extremly shallow because of how many there are now.  Makes me doubly mad about Liara not being in ME2.

[Driveninhifi]

I don't know if that's true. I think it depends on whether or not they add a bunch more.

There's a lot they can do with the ME2 romances going forward though, I think it's got a ton of potential. I've only done male, so here are some thoughts:

Miranda has essentially thrown her lot in with Shepard so how does she react without Cerberus being there? She's new to the whole "love" thing, so how does that impact her?

Jack is likely to be rabidly loyal to Shepard if she's the love interest. She'd probably do anything for Shepard, and she doesn't exactly have many qualms about doing nasty stuff. Which could set up some really interesting interactions with previous lovers - Jack's probably also the very, very jealous type if Shepard were to go back to the previous relationship.

Tali I'm not sure about, but that's a hard one. They definitely can't procreate or even be intimate that much. I don't have many ideas there....

There's lot of ground to cover with Liara whether or not she's the love interest. I think you can argue she loves Shepard regardless of how ME1 played out. I also don't think she'd be infuriated if Shepard left her. Emotionally crushed, definitely, but I can't see her turning against Shepard. She's expecting Shepard to hate her anyway, so wouldn't she expect Shepard to move on? Suicide or a noble sacrifice for Shepard to live on would fit her in this case, I think. And if Shepard does come back to her, I'd think she'd be overjoyed. It also needs to really mess with her priorities and obsession, as I'd mentioned before.

Ashley is least interesting storywise, as she just has to get over her anger. We don't really know what she's been up to anyway.

[DigitalMaster37]

Yeah I agree, there are too many romances now. I fear what will happen as a result. Everyone will get a generic romantic climax with their LI... *sigh*

[Nozybidaj]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

Yeah I agree, there are too many romances now. I fear what will happen as a result. Everyone will get a generic romantic climax with their LI... *sigh*

With the number of characters and different possibilities on who may or may not be alive I anticipate everyone to be pretty generic.  All the LI's will probably get the exact same plot path and everyone else will pretty much amount to being a red shirt.

[ERJAK2]

jlb524 wrote...

MassEffect762 wrote...

All romances WILL suffer greatly because of all the possibilities, you wait and see.

Hmm...you might be right.  There are, what, 9 of them now?  ME2 had too many, IMO.

Trust me, if you play femshep, there is only one romance option.