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[Driveninhifi]

Well, I think Liara has good reasons logically, they just aren't presented well in game (along with a lot of stuff in that conversation). If she and Shepard were lovers, it's totally unbelievable she'd let Shepard walk away to get killed without saying anything. (I also think it's unbelievable she'd fall so deeply into revenge if she had the slightest hope Shepard could come back to her. To some extent it makes sense, I feel like it's taken a bit too far. She's even got the resources to keep tabs on Shepard's progress! Wouldn't she obsessively be searching for info on him/her as well?) The frustrating thing is that a few more lines of dialogue would have made it seem a bit more natural.



Ashely/Kaiden's reasons are just incomprehensibly bad. They should have made them incapacitated/seriously injured by the Collectors so they literally couldn't come along. Again, a pretty simple solution.

[seyera]

Ya, a few more dialouge lines if Liara was your LI in ME would have been great. It would have made it different from those who didn't romance her, thus a little more personal. It definitely could have been handled better. I probably just give it too much reasoning because its Liara.

[Driveninhifi]

Well, part of the reason I think it doesn't work well as presented is that I think the 2 years would affect Liara differently if she was Shepard's lover as opposed to not. If not, then it makes a lot of sense for her to be angry and have nothing to live for but revenge. I like the idea that Liara is in love with Shepard regardless of Shepard's feelings - but if Shepard does not love her it really leaves her out in the cold.



Now, if she was Shepard's lover I think it makes sense for her character to really hold on to the hope that they could be together again. She is shown to love Shepard deeply, and is extremely loyal. 2 years is not long for an Asari. And if Shepard tells her she did the right thing in resurrecting him/her, then I would think Liara should begin to believe "Wow, maybe we CAN actually be together again. Maybe I can let go of this guilt and fear...." That doesn't mean she would immediately be able to let go of what she's doing, but that inner conflict would be great to explore.

[Dermain]

seyera wrote...

Driveninhifi wrote...

And the human love interests have no good reason not to come. Yeah, they hate Cerberus, but they also just saw big scary aliens wipe out a colony without any trouble. It's not very believable they wouldn't trust Shepard enough to at least do some research and see that, oh wait, these Collectors ARE actually trying to wipe out the human race.

Exactly! People claim Liara's reasons were fabricated, how more abstract can Ash/Kaiden's reasons be? They just got attacked by Collectors, saw them first hand, and survived thanks to Shepard. But no. They don't believe its a threat at all. I was like... really? Thanks guys. At least I got the impression Liara was really doing something and needed to focus on it. She was having heated business meetings, being spied on, and dealing with the Shadow Broker. I'll let her pass on my suicidal mission this time. Especially after I found out she saved me.

Ash/Kaidan's responses to Shepard I can see, seeing as Cerbus is labeled as a terrorist organization, it's a logical response. They are also currently serving in the Alliance Navy which is why they are unable to join Shepard. Did the writers approach this awkwardly? Definitely.

Now to Liara:

I was rather disappointed by Liara in ME2, Ash/Kaidan show some interest in Shepard romantically. Liara, not so much. Besides a kiss when you first see her again, all she ever talks about is the Shadow Broker. She's to obsessed with the Shadow Broker to deal with anything else. I was hoping there would be a conversation option "Liara stop being an idiot!, your obsession is going to get you killed!"(which it nearly does, depending on how you finish her quests). Either way I have a feeling that she is going to get herself killed in a DLC, expansion, or ME3.

[preacher0057]

Yup want the love of my life back:(

[seyera]

Oh no I don't want her to die in ME3, or at least one that we can't control. That would be devastating.

[jinrsx]

If she died I would use the renegade option every time.

[Dark Glasses]

I want my biotic squadmate! Samara/Morith, Jack or heh.. Samara sucks at biotic. Liara is the only badass here, even though she is young 108.

[Deamon023]

Someone mentioned playing has Liara in a DLC, would love the idea if we got to play the prelude to ME2 with Dr. T'soni but guess we have the comics for that

[Deamon023]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I think reading the comic is alot more rewarding if she was your love interest in the original game. You get the feeling of such a special bond between her and Shepard that way. Makes me love Liara even more.

What's not to love about Liara? 

and about other LI's for my male Shep, Ash kindda did it since she shot Wrex in my first Renegade run in ME happy I had a save, so guess who died in my ME run  

Modifié par Deamon023, 08 février 2010 - 11:21 .

[Mox Ruuga]

Has anyone brought Garrus and Tali to Wrex?

Does he react to them, or is it just like with Liara and the old shipmates get ignored?

[TLK Spires]

posting to add more support

[Deamon023]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

Has anyone brought Garrus and Tali to Wrex?

Does he react to them, or is it just like with Liara and the old shipmates get ignored?

Only old shipmates interaction have seen thus far is Garrus and Tali in the Citadel, pretty fun btw

[Deamon023]

Sry peeps, to long without an image of Liara can't be healthy, so...


 

[Sharn01]

Pretty damn sure she will be a squadmate in ME3.

[Mox Ruuga]

Deamon023 wrote...

Only old shipmates interaction have seen thus far is Garrus and Tali in the Citadel, pretty fun btw

Kaidan does note Garrus' presence incredulously on Horizon. One of the things why no one noticing Liara or the Liara / Shepard romance is so aggravating: the Ash/Shepard and Kaidan/Shepard romances were commented on... As were Ash and Kaidan in general.

[Deamon023]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

Deamon023 wrote...

Only old shipmates interaction have seen thus far is Garrus and Tali in the Citadel, pretty fun btw

Kaidan does note Garrus' presence incredulously on Horizon. One of the things why no one noticing Liara or the Liara / Shepard romance is so aggravating: the Ash/Shepard and Kaidan/Shepard romances were commented on... As were Ash and Kaidan in general.

I haven't done Horizon with my good old friend Garrus yet (the only Turian My Shep trusts giving hes back to) something for my next playthrough  

[Mox Ruuga]

Deamon023 wrote...


I haven't done Horizon with my good old friend Garrus yet (the only Turian My Shep trusts giving hes back to) something for my next playthrough  

It isn't much, but the devs made the effort there to show that these two actually knew each other from before.

A ME2 noob would have no idea Garrus, Tali, or Joker ever met Liara before.

[Deamon023]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

Deamon023 wrote...


I haven't done Horizon with my good old friend Garrus yet (the only Turian My Shep trusts giving hes back to) something for my next playthrough  

It isn't much, but the devs made the effort there to show that these two actually knew each other from before.

A ME2 noob would have no idea Garrus, Tali, or Joker ever met Liara before.

I bet lots of new players of the ME universe will try ME1, and imo importing a lvl 60 char into ME2 is very rewarding, made me also more careful in my decision making for ME3.

[BeetleBrewin]

We must have more of sweet Liara as LI in ME3. As she couldn't let Shepard go and gave her body away to be rebuilt, why did she only greet Shepard with a kiss and then no more interaction? She waited 2 years to see her!

My Shepard remained loyal to her, so she must appear as a LI in ME3, please.

[Barquiel]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

A ME2 noob would have no idea Garrus, Tali, or Joker ever met Liara before.

I agree, that's is disappointing (Miranda knows Liara too - the comic)

[Keltoris]

I need to get more of the comic.



=/

[Deamon023]

We need more of this blue godess.
Look at that face (sry for the other faces, kept Wrex hidden to minimize the shock) no doubt what she feels for Shepard here

can't say no to so much cuteness

[Keltoris]

It's ironic, so many of the best Liara photos are from when she was trapped in the barrier curtain.