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[Cheita_Corps]

Abriael_CG wrote...

Cheita_Corps wrote...
Thats why you save beforehand. Interrupts are spontaneous, paragon or renegade. Like you said, not many of them have foreshadowing but this particular interrupt was pretty predictable considering the context established from encountering her in the first ME.

To be honest I doubt a player should have to save before every single dialogue. That's simply bad design...

If it were a paragon interrupt it might have involved the camera.

Not really. Punching the camera is still a violent action that falls perfectly into the renegade "ethos". Punching a woman that's just talking in a civilian environment isn't "renegade" it's "chaotic [

stillnotking wrote...
I'm tired of your disingenuous assertions!

If in your opinion they are disingenuous, and you're so tired, by all means, don't read them. I promise I won't punch you in the face if you ignore me :innocent:

If you think punching her is bad wait till you see what you do to the guy in the interrogation room if you interrupt. 

There was plenty of foreshadowing for this particular interrupt if you played the first ME not to mention it showing itself as renegade.

Aside from that, are basing your assumption of the renegade option involved here off the one you did with Veetor in the colony mission? If so I can see why you expected the renegade option to fire a shot at the camera.

[RabidWHM]

Ugh, people take things too seriously. "I want to analyze this and analyze that". I mean the game is rated mature so anyone playing should already know that there is a difference between how you handle situations in the real world and what happens in a video game. Video games are so experience things that you can't do in the real world. Sleeping with aliens, commanding your own war ship, killing mobsters, touching elf's inappropriately, killing prostitutes for money. The list is endless. I think hitting that ****hole of a reporter, who happens to be female was very funny. It is also funny how he states "I should have done that when I first met you"

Also when you think of how brutal a renegade shepard can be, I think she got off pretty easy. This man pushes people out of windows for crying out loud. I had garrus when I did that and garrus was like dang, shep you a cold hearted bastard. In so many words anway, LOL

Modifié par RabidWHM, 03 février 2010 - 08:00 .

[Homebound]

Abriael_CG wrote...

Just_mike wrote...

I still stand by what I said earlier. The games for Mature audiences. Us grown-ups should have the mental faculties to comprehend this subject matter.

And given your argument, I have problems believing that you're, in fact, part of the "us grown-ups" group...

....I dont go around punching people in the face if that is what you are implying.

[Maria Caliban]

Rapamaha1 wrote...

its funny how people think this kind of stuff doesnt belong to games but I havent actually heard much moaning about being able to kill a child with knife in Dragon age...

Then I'd suggest you weren't paying attention to the Dragon Age spoiler boards.

[Nialos]

Just_mike wrote...

Abriael_CG wrote...

Just_mike wrote...

I still stand by what I said earlier. The games for Mature audiences. Us grown-ups should have the mental faculties to comprehend this subject matter.

And given your argument, I have problems believing that you're, in fact, part of the "us grown-ups" group...

....I dont go around punching people in the face if that is what you are implying.

...But don't you ever get tired of their snide insinuations? You're a stronger man than me.

[Massadonious1]

I'm pretty sure grown-ups can play GTA4 and not go out and shoot cops afterwords.



I would hope these same grown-ups still know that it's still pretty awful to punch women.



I'm beginning to think you subscribe to the cult of Jack Thompson.

[Abriael_CG]

Cheita_Corps wrote...
Aside from that, are basing your assumption of the renegade option involved here off the one you did with Veetor in the colony mission? If so I can see why you expected the renegade option to fire a shot at the camera.

Nah, I just based it on logic. The most aggressive action that came to mind when i selected that option was breaking the camera. I'm quite happy with the fact that punching the girl didn't even come to mind as an option actually.
Looks like some people in this thread seem to be pretty proud of the contrary. Oh well. The world is nice because it includes variety, I guess...

Just_mike wrote...
....I dont go around punching people in the face if that is what you are implying.

Actually I was just hinting at your eagerness to take an aggressive stance instead of simply discussing. Not that it's uncommon. No need to get this defensive.

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 03 février 2010 - 08:01 .

[Jzier]

I love how Abriael thinks were all gonna go lady punching now

[Nialos]

Abriael_CG wrote...

Cheita_Corps wrote...
Aside from that, are basing your assumption of the renegade option involved here off the one you did with Veetor in the colony mission? If so I can see why you expected the renegade option to fire a shot at the camera.

Nah, I just based it on logic. The most aggressive action that came to mind when i selected that option was breaking the camera. I'm quite happy with the fact that punching the girl didn't even come to mind as an option actually.
Looks like some people in this thread seem to be pretty proud of the contrary. Oh well. The world is nice because it includes variety, I guess...

Your first mistake was assuming that a Renegade goes by logic 24/7.

[Homebound]

Jzier wrote...

I love how Abriael thinks were all gonna go lady punching now

No kidding.

[Abriael_CG]

Jzier wrote...

I love how Abriael thinks were all gonna go lady punching now

Well, given the untapped aggressivity i see in some of the posts here, I wouldn't be that surprised. If that's how you behave in a normal discussion, violence isn't that far away.

[Fishy]

Abriael_CG wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...
So, if they're in a civillian environment, it's not okay.
Cool, I'm going to go rifle butt some female Eclipse mercs.

I'd say there's quite a difference between a kill-or-be-killed combat situation and an interview...

Well .. Okay ..Hmm .. Anyway!

The whole thing's that journalist try to make you look worse than a ghetto thug .. She just pin you down with stuff  to embarass you on live vid.I mean you're here trying to save everyone asses and that what you get .. Remember .. for her embarrasing Shepard  on live t.v mean a promotion..



Ok now think about it.Would this thread exist if she was a HE?

Oh and you know what?The best solution with bullying it's kicking their bully ass.I don,t buy the diplomacy crap . You can't argue ith a bully..Just kick their ass ..

When i was in High school (Long time ago) .. I was bullied.I solved  my problem with my hand into his teeth.

Modifié par Suprez30, 03 février 2010 - 08:04 .

[Massadonious1]

Personally, ME2 made me want to go squash some flies and cockroaches.



Maybe Abriael can get PETA on the horn.

[Abriael_CG]

Nialos wrote...
Your first mistake was assuming that a Renegade goes by logic 24/7.

Well, it depends on your idea of renegade. A bad guy doesn't necessarily need to be also an idiot. There are plenty villains in history or fiction that behave in a quite clever way. Personally, I feel that the "chaotic stupid" stereotype is normally a sign of low quality writing...

Suprez30 wrote...
Oh and you know what?The best solution with
bullying it's kicking their bully ass.I don,t buy the diplomacy crap .
You can't argue ith a bully..Just kick their ass ..

Actually, with the paragon choice you argue with the "bully" quite effectively. By punching her you just give in to the provocation. By arguing effectively, you humiliate her in front of her whole audience.

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 03 février 2010 - 08:06 .

[Nialos]

Abriael_CG wrote...

Jzier wrote...

I love how Abriael thinks were all gonna go lady punching now

Well, given the untapped aggressivity i see in some of the posts here, I wouldn't be that surprised. If that's how you behave in a normal discussion, violence isn't that far away.

Except that this isn't a 'normal' discussion. Most fans of the first game know full well of the Renegade scene involving the reporter. To them, it was so over the top (and funny) that it stuck. It's a joke among fans. Don't be surprised if people aren't going to take it seriously.

[Jzier]

Abriael_CG wrote...

Jzier wrote...

I love how Abriael thinks were all gonna go lady punching now

Well, given the untapped aggressivity i see in some of the posts here, I wouldn't be that surprised. If that's how you behave in a normal discussion, violence isn't that far away.

I'm tired of your snide insinuations

[Homebound]

Abriael_CG wrote...

Cheita_Corps wrote...
Aside from that, are basing your assumption of the renegade option involved here off the one you did with Veetor in the colony mission? If so I can see why you expected the renegade option to fire a shot at the camera.

Nah, I just based it on logic. The most aggressive action that came to mind when i selected that option was breaking the camera. I'm quite happy with the fact that punching the girl didn't even come to mind as an option actually.
Looks like some people in this thread seem to be pretty proud of the contrary. Oh well. The world is nice because it includes variety, I guess...

Just_mike wrote...
....I dont go around punching people in the face if that is what you are implying.

Actually I was just hinting at your eagerness to take an aggressive stance instead of simply discussing. Not that it's uncommon. No need to get this defensive.

My stance isnt aggresive, I dont know why you'd percieve it as such.  All I've said is that this is a mature game for mature audiences.  nothing more, nothing less.

[Cheita_Corps]

Nialos wrote...

Abriael_CG wrote...

Cheita_Corps wrote...
Aside from that, are basing your assumption of the renegade option involved here off the one you did with Veetor in the colony mission? If so I can see why you expected the renegade option to fire a shot at the camera.

Nah, I just based it on logic. The most aggressive action that came to mind when i selected that option was breaking the camera. I'm quite happy with the fact that punching the girl didn't even come to mind as an option actually.
Looks like some people in this thread seem to be pretty proud of the contrary. Oh well. The world is nice because it includes variety, I guess...

Your first mistake was assuming that a Renegade goes by logic 24/7.

Naw most of the renegade options are pretty straight forward once you think about it. Its more logical that you'd punch the reporter than destroy the camera considering just how much the renegade options involve laying down the pain.

[Maria Caliban]

Nialos wrote...

Your first mistake was assuming that a Renegade goes by logic 24/7.

Correct. Later on, there's a renegade sequence where you beat a man bound to a chair for information. I found it far more egregious than the reporter interrupt, though I avoided both.

[Nialos]

Cheita_Corps wrote...

Nialos wrote...

Abriael_CG wrote...

Cheita_Corps wrote...
Aside from that, are basing your assumption of the renegade option involved here off the one you did with Veetor in the colony mission? If so I can see why you expected the renegade option to fire a shot at the camera.

Nah, I just based it on logic. The most aggressive action that came to mind when i selected that option was breaking the camera. I'm quite happy with the fact that punching the girl didn't even come to mind as an option actually.
Looks like some people in this thread seem to be pretty proud of the contrary. Oh well. The world is nice because it includes variety, I guess...

Your first mistake was assuming that a Renegade goes by logic 24/7.

Naw most of the renegade options are pretty straight forward once you think about it. Its more logical that you'd punch the reporter than destroy the camera considering just how much the renegade options involve laying down the pain.

You are right. Thought I think he's basing it off actual society's morals and logical processing. In regards to that... the Renegade is anything but logical.

[Jzier]

Abraiel the only reason you see us in an aggressive stance is because there isnt anyone on your side.

[KalosCast]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Nialos wrote...

Your first mistake was assuming that a Renegade goes by logic 24/7.

Correct. Later on, there's a renegade sequence where you beat a man bound to a chair for information. I found it far more egregious than the reporter interrupt, though I avoided both.

You beat a man into unconsciousness no less. That probably means that he's probably waking up in a hospital with at least mild brain damage. Especially considering nobody was exactly rushing to his aid.

Modifié par KalosCast, 03 février 2010 - 08:08 .

[jd757575]

i always punch that reporter, i thought it was kinda over the top though

[Abriael_CG]

Just_mike wrote...
My stance isnt aggresive, I dont know why you'd percieve it as such.  All I've said is that this is a mature game for mature audiences.  nothing more, nothing less.

Insinuating that someone isn't mature just because he has some problems with seeing a digital representation of beating on women (and mind you, I'm not sure going to cry to the press, I'm just discussing it in a forum) is quite derogatory, hence, aggressive, I'd say.

Jzier wrote...

Abraiel the only reason you see us in an aggressive stance is because there isnt anyone on your side.

There are a few quite more civil ways to engage in a discussion without insulting the other side. Numbers have no bearing to it (unless it's mob mentality I guess). You're simply being aggressive and insulting, and that makes me wonder about the reasons of such hostility.

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 03 février 2010 - 08:14 .

[Rapamaha1]

Cheita_Corps wrote...

Rapamaha1 wrote...

its funny how people think this kind of stuff doesnt belong to games but I havent actually heard much moaning about being able to kill a child with knife in Dragon age...

There was PLENTY of moaning about that. There was even a debate about whether it was more evil to do the deed yourself or force the mother to. I was on the force the mother side. 

okay maybe there was, I havent seen any personally eventho I browse quite many diffrent gaming sites usually, my mistake