Shepard punching a woman? Seriously?
#151
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:45
#152
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:45
#153
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:45
#154
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:46
#155
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:48
#156
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:49
Just_mike wrote...
Honestly, Im just glad the majority of us in this thread understands the whole punching reporter thing for what it really is. Its just a shame a small minority refuse to see that this is a videogame and all that jazz.
May I direct you to Kevin McCullough?
http://darkzero.co.u...-orgasmic-rape/
#157
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:49
Just_mike wrote...
Honestly, Im just glad the majority of
us in this thread understands the whole punching reporter thing for
what it really is. Its just a shame a small minority refuse to see that
this is a videogame and all that jazz.
I came in seeking opinions. And respect the fact that many aren't phased. This doesn't mean that i condone some people's aggressivity and angst in expressing that.
Jzier wrote...
are you trying to say TOUGH guy? Because you are spelling it wrong.
Oh, now now, you've stepped as low as playing the grammar cop?
Don't worry my friend. When you'll write in my language as well as I write in yours, you'll have something to be proud of.
#158
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:50
Abriael_CG wrote...
Just_mike wrote...
Its unfortunate that everybody in this
thread except you Abriael can understand that this is a game. Instead
of understanding what we have to say, you have spent your time
undermining us. In return some of us have retaliated, while some choose
to be civil.
Actually you didn't "retaliate", you came in as extremely aggressive and condescending since your very first "contribution" to this thread. If you want to say something, I'm all ears, but try to do it in a more civil way, next time.
Your opinions and biases have impeded you from understanding the true words that I and many others have put down.
You seem to be obsessed with discrediting us and belittling us with no actual regard to the topic of the thread.
The subject of the reporter being punched has been resolved. read what we've had to say with a clear mind, and hopefully you will understand that in the end, this is simply a videogame.
#159
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:51
#160
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:51
HEY ABRIAEL! I PUNCH WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND BACKHAND PUPPIES!
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tunnel vision?
#161
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:53
Just_mike wrote...
Your opinions and biases have impeded you from understanding the true words that I and many others have put down.
If you want to say some "true words", please do so, possibly not clouded by personal attacks and aggressivity. I most certanly assure you that they will come out much easier to understand.
@binaryemperor: yes, yes, I like you too.
Modifié par Abriael_CG, 03 février 2010 - 08:53 .
#162
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:54
Massadonious1 wrote...
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the OP, but, as far as Thane's son goes, he could of easily talked him down. That tramuatized Salarian in the tower had a gun to me personally, but I was able to resolve that through words.
And, I'm pretty sure he lightly shoves the Volus, and grabs the officer by the shirt collar. That could easily go for assault.
Point being, even ParaSheps do some odd things. Like shilling out for every store on the Citadel.
I picked the renegade options for the Citadel stores just because I didn't want to hear 'Hi, I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite store on the Citadel' wherever I went. You're correct that it made no sense. You're lying one way or another, so what makes one action paragon while the other is renegade?
Of course, BioWare itself seems conflicted on what the difference between the two is and I don't think it helps that every conversation and conflict must have a paragon or renegade option.
Whatever they do after ME, I hope they develop actual alignments that make sense or just drop them entirely like they did in DA.
#163
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:54
#164
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:54
#165
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:55
Abriael_CG wrote...
@binaryemperor: yes, yes, I like you too.
#166
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:56
But in all seriousness, whats wrong with punching a female reporter who's only goal in life is to smear your name? i would certainly do it to a male reporter and it would be sexist of me to not give a female reporter the same respect and response i would give to her male peer!
But again, its a video game. Saying that its so horrible shocking is like those people who tried to blame murdering on someone on playing Grandtheft auto. Seriously, if someone thinks they should go around punching peoples lights out because "i saw Shepard do it and hes the hero of the galaxy" they have no right owning the game in the first place.
Who i really feel sorry for though, is the person who needs to come onto a website and tell a community of the great injustice he saw committed upon a digital actor. Hey, i saw a woman getting her ass whooped in Book of Eli....Where are their boards so i can go tell them how horribly wrong that was?
#167
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:56
Jzier wrote...
There actually wasnt a single attack there, but a notification of your faults, in a kind way. u got some issues.
If that's your idea of kind, then I'm afraid I'm not the one with issues here...
#168
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:57
binaryemperor wrote...
What the hell? Do I just not exist?
HEY ABRIAEL! I PUNCH WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND BACKHAND PUPPIES!
.............
tunnel vision?
You sir, are a bad bad person...and you are going to the special hell.
/turns the flame thrower lite off and hands him a cig, figuring with how much he wanted it it must be better than sex.
#169
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:59
http://www.thefreedi...ry.com/renegade
So punching that woman out fits perfectly with "renegade" not idiotic.
This has been your word lesson for the day
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#170
Posté 03 février 2010 - 08:59
Felix Golden wrote...
But in all seriousness, whats wrong with punching a female reporter who's only goal in life is to smear your name? i would certainly do it to a male reporter and it would be sexist of me to not give a female reporter the same respect and response i would give to her male peer!
Actually i'd find it absolutely assholish if it was a male reporter as well. Maybe less disgusting, but a total douche action none the less.
This, of course, without mentioning that if you punch a reported you're basically playing in his hand, giving him/her even more bigger news to report. Which makes the action twice as stupid. But I guess that's an entirely different matter.
That's exactly the difference between a believable villain and a "chaotic stupid". Unfortunately renegade shepard falls into the chaotic stupid a tad too often to be interesting as a character.
But again, its a video game. Saying that its so horrible shocking is like those people who tried to blame murdering on someone on playing Grandtheft auto.
Oh, come on, hyperbole much? I said that I felt it was a tad over the top. I didn't say it's gonna spawn rank upon rank of women-beating-gamers.
Modifié par Abriael_CG, 03 février 2010 - 09:01 .
#171
Posté 03 février 2010 - 09:00
#172
Posté 03 février 2010 - 09:00
Abriael_CG wrote...
When i was confronted by the annoying journalist in the citadel, and saw that renegade icon flashing on the screen, I fully expected Shepard to punch or shoot or somwhow break the floating camera. I was extreemly surprised to see him punch the girl straight in the face.
I know, It's just a game, and it's a renegade choice so you're definitely not representing a saint, but still... punching a civilian woman that, while annoying, is just blabbering?
Mind you, I'm not here crying to the scandal and bringing out stuff about encouraging the beating of women... but Am I the only one that found that just a tad over the top?
Did you play mass effect 1? You can do the same thing to her. Like the others said, she deserved it. Typical slimey dirt merchant reporter.
#173
Posté 03 février 2010 - 09:01
Felix Golden wrote...
You sir, are a bad bad person...and you are going to the special hell.
/turns the flame thrower lite off and hands him a cig, figuring with how much he wanted it it must be better than sex.
Don't hurt me! I'll be good! I Swears!:innocent:
.............
#174
Posté 03 février 2010 - 09:02
I skimmed through this topic a bit. Ultimately, I believe its there as sort of "comic relief", in the sense that its something probably many of us (or whomever) has wanted to do when dealing with real-life reporters whom act as such. The fact that they have free reign to many times twist stories, and break into peoples personal lives is atrocious, however I am not condoning violence, in the end it still is a work of fiction, and should be left as such.
Yes it can be seen as over-the-top, seeing as life-like it seems and sounds, the reporter having a black eye as well as small spurts of blood across her face. However at the end of the day, as I said before, its a work of fiction, whether well-written or not, it was in the previous game as well. If you enjoyed the first, then when checking on youtube there are tons of a-hole-ish actions/dialogue that the MC takes part in, including punching the reporter, foreshadowing the events to come in this scenario.
Its a mature game, as you said while doing such an action isn't considered well written, the game being labeled as mature should have made it clear that its an "almost" anything goes type of deal. Whether in other games its insane amounts of blood and gore flying across the screen, or mature themes and scenarios in this game (such as Jack's backstory, the potrayl of other elements/races).
On my main, Paragon (slightly renegade maybe 5 points) playthrough, I did NOT hit the reporter, rather talked her down with the Paragon option. I usually naturally play as paragon in any game I'm playing, if i don't agree with something I'll take a neutral path. (Only renegade option i remember doing was insulting the blonde crooked Noveria officer before the fight).
In the end, I'd just say reload your data if thats not the path you wish to take, its a small part of the game, hitting close to home (figuratively speaking
Modifié par I Ryukage I, 03 février 2010 - 09:05 .
#175
Posté 03 février 2010 - 09:02
Jzier wrote...
Abriael because of you im going to punch the next 5 women i meet.
*in his best cleveland voice* Aww, Peter, that's just mean.





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