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[Gill Kaiser]

Tali got hit in the face when trying to close the door, because I chose Samara for the fire team. Since Tali was my love interest and favourite character, I ragequit at that point and started again. The second time I got through the mission without any casualties, although I did still lose my crew.

[Ryouseiken]

I had all my ship upgrades so no one died that way. (Note I gave Legion to Cerberus, so I didn't have him in my first playthrough).

Tech Specialist = Tali.
2nd Squad Leader = Miranda

Tali is the only one in my entire group who wasn't loyal so she died from a shot to the head... kind of saw it coming.

Biotic Barrier = Samara
Distraction Team Leader = Thane
Sent back with Crew = no one.

Dr. Chakwas and them died because they had no protection. Thane died because I made a bad choice there.... I didn't want to repeat using Miranda as a leader and wanted to try someone different and see their diologue. Samara successfully fended off the bugs though.

Final Squad = Shephard, Garrus, & Grunt
Remaining Squadmembers = Jacob, Miranda, Jack, Mordin, & Samara.

Mordin died for some weird reason I don't quite understand because I gave him his upgrade & had his loyalty, plus I talked to him on a daily basis. So in the end out of the 9 Squadmates, 6 lived. Tali, Thane, and Mordin died... I also chose to keep the base. I'm giving Cerberus a helluva lot. x.X

[Milchkarton]

Nearly all of my crew died, I didn't know you had to hurry to save them... But Donnelly and Chakwas survived, so all is good. No one of my squadmates died though and I'm glad for that.

[lessthanjake9]

Just finished it. Samara was the only person who died. I'm not entirely certain why.

I chose Legion for the tech. Seemed like a logical choice. I chose Garrus to lead both secondary teams. Again, seems like a logical choice since he has led units before. I chose Jacob to provide the biotic barrier. This one seemed like it made sense to me given that he IS the character who has the "barrier" power. However, Jacob got tired at the end and Shepard had to carry him near the end of the sequence. Samara stayed fighting too long and got taken by the bug things.

Am I not supposed to pick Jacob for the barrier or did I just take too long to get through that sequence? I wonder if anyone would have died had I used Samara for the barrier because she seems to be the one that everyone who has had no one die used. Maybe ill test it out.

I did not have Jack's loyalty (didn't have the paragon/renegade score to mediate the miranda/jack argument) but I do not think that that mattered as she wasn't part of this fight.

[Gill Kaiser]

Samara or Jack for the barrier. Surely that's obvious?

[TLK Spires]

lessthanjake9 wrote...

Just finished it. Samara was the only person who died. I'm not entirely certain why.

I chose Legion for the tech. Seemed like a logical choice. I chose Garrus to lead both secondary teams. Again, seems like a logical choice since he has led units before. I chose Jacob to provide the biotic barrier. This one seemed like it made sense to me given that he IS the character who has the "barrier" power. However, Jacob got tired at the end and Shepard had to carry him near the end of the sequence. Samara stayed fighting too long and got taken by the bug things.

Am I not supposed to pick Jacob for the barrier or did I just take too long to get through that sequence? I wonder if anyone would have died had I used Samara for the barrier because she seems to be the one that everyone who has had no one die used. Maybe ill test it out.

I did not have Jack's loyalty (didn't have the paragon/renegade score to mediate the miranda/jack argument) but I do not think that that mattered as she wasn't part of this fight.

you want a 'strong' biotic.

jack is the strongest human biotic as said in her dossier.
samara is an asari justicar.

any others may be 'good' with biotics, but not 'strong' with them.

[Nyaz]

I lost Miranda at my first attempt (because she didn't want to be loyal since her fight with Jack since waaay back), but I figured that maybe, maybe I could make her survive anyway, so I reloaded.

This time, I sent Zaeed back with the crew, hoping for him to die. That worked out just fine. (I don't like Zaeed ) Then Miranda AND Mordin died for some stupid reason. Grr.



Well I guess I have to replay this before ME3 is out anyway.

[Antoniuss]

No one

[lessthanjake9]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Samara or Jack for the barrier. Surely that's obvious?

I mean, Jacob has the Barrier power, so I thought he was a pretty nice choice to put up a biotic barrier...

Honestly, I was very very close to using Samara. The only reason I didn't is because I actually wanted to fight with her (Sentinel Shepard + Samara + Miranda = ridiculously powerful squad in terms of damage). I didn't use Jack because I didn't have her loyalty, so it seemed silly to give her an important job. That left Jacob.

Maybe ill redo it and use Samara for the barrier. I have to say, though, I kind of liked having someone die. It makes it more emotional than if you save everyone. I wish Mordin had died just for the apparent "I held the line" dying words. In fact, I think the next time I play through the game (to try out another class) Im going to make sure it ends in a bloodbath. It seems like it would be incredibly emotional

[Tamcia]

None. Did all loyalty missions, talked to them a lot, did upgrades.

[Ocelot83]

Nobody died, in order to keep them all alive, choises for which crewmember handles which mission are pretty obvious.



I can't believe why some people have put Thane on the tech mission, just because he is good in crawling in wents. He has zero technical ability.



Or put Jacob/Miranda on keeping up the barrier, neither one is a full biotic.

[Mudzr]

TLK Spires wrote...

Mudzr wrote...

I tried so hard really.
I picked Garrus as a team leader (since he definatly has experience, and legion to scout the tunnels, since he is experienced and tech and well, if anyone wants to face suicide it must as well be a robot.
Everyone lived.
Then I picked Thane as a biotic and Mordin as team leader just to mix things up.
Baaaad mistake, I felt so bad seeing Garrus disintergrate before me, as well as Mordin's "I held the line..." as he died, that I reloaded and got Samara as a biotic and Garrus leading again. Garrus is so baddass the bullets didn't slow him down. I sent Zaaed to escort the crew because I wanted to get him out of my hair and he did fine.
So I took Legion and Grunt with me for the final battle, knowing they couldn't die, and if they did, it wouldn't hurt me as much....

And then one of my if not my favourite Mordin died. :(
Sure everyone else lived but who will cure the genophage now?
I'm going to have to reload but I'm still trying to figure out what I did wrong. Maybe take him with me... or send him to escort the crew.
Maybe he just wants to die....
I don't know if I should reload... what did I do wrong? I had all upgrades and all my guys were loyal.
Still amazingly... emotionally engaging having someone die, despite my efforts, and watching the coffin, knowing it was for the greater cause.

To those who had everyone survive, who did you take for the final confrontation. I think that must have an effect on who dies...

in a conversation with mordin, he makes reference to captain kirrahe, the salarian leader who gave the infamous 'hold the line' speech. mordin says something to the effect of 'his speech was inspiriing, and good for morale; however, i do not like holding the line. i prefer going, not doing'.

asking mordin to hold the line is like asking garrus to hack the door. they can, but they aren't so good at it, and in mordin's case, he flat out dislikes it. escorting a crew is a special ops type task, something mordin has experience with.

your best bet is to have him escort the crew, something in hsi area of expertise, and not have him hold the line, something he is not adept at.

note: i had him hold the line for me, and he survived. i attribute to this to:

1: picked the same leader for both teams (garrus). as any good leader will do, they will notice who is lackign at what. after seeing mordin not do so well the first time, he was able to give him extra cover/support the second time so that he wouldn't get hurt.

2. plain old good luck. everyone was loyal, so that may help.

once more for reference:
tech specialist - legion
1st team leader - garrus

biotic specialist - jack
2nd team leader - garrus

personal squad for all fights - tali and samara

escort - zaeed

Thanks heaps.
I just finished the game then and I wont have time for much more than a femshep playthrough so I really wanted to save everyone to have a main maleshep file.
I guess i'll send Mordin to escort. I just hope it's not because I didn't upgrade enough, I did all of the main upgrades, just not all the weapon damage.
Altough if Mordin dies while leading a team, he'll say "I held the line..." so maybe his mind changes?
Just shows how much effect this game has, haha, I don't care how hard it was I'm giving it another shot.

[Shadukar]

First run through i lost Three.   Thane (I had him run the vents infiltration is his good point)   he got killed by a random bullet to teh face closing the first door.
Then Garrus died going through the swarm room... Right before the door... he just stopped moving...  I was pissed.   Then Jack, holding the door... she was the barrier maker for the swarm tunnel...  No loss there...  

 Now to try with my Male Shepard. 

[Legion6115]

Tali did on first playthrough. Had no idea why (was loyal, survived vents, but died during barricade attack) so I reloaded and brought her with me against the Terminator (leaving Garrus, because I'd assume his leadership would be needed, and Mordin escorted my crew members). She lived, and I'm happy. With Renegade shep, whoever dies, oh well. However, with my Paragon being my main one, everyone had to live. Renegade will be my "What if" side.

[manyfistss]

Onyxthegreat wrote...

manyfistss wrote...

None but I lost all my crew, good thing too they weren't doing anything. I thought Dr. Chakwas survived, but I didn't see her in her station. I sent them alone without an escort.

If you didn't send escort, she didn't make it.

also; none of my party died on my playthrough.

Oh well, it's a lot better without the crew. Although I kinda miss the Engineers and my PA, but it's better without all the crew there they got in my way. 

[Lyrandori]

I lost Mordin and the crew. I sent the surviving crew without an escort since I had CLEANED the whole place up to them, and them only had to take the exact same path again back to the Normandy, so I kept all my party with me to make sure I would reach the end of it, if I had KNOWN that there would remain enemies behind although I killed them all then YES, I would have sent someone, in fact I ALMOST sent Zaeed with them. So... they still died, they probably tripped on a rock or something at the same time and all fell together like dominos and died that way.



And, well, Mordin... don't know how he died, just saw him at the end scene laying there, dead on the ground.

[Legion6115]

Lyrandori wrote...

And, well, Mordin... don't know how he died, just saw him at the end scene laying there, dead on the ground.

Like my Tali. My guess is neither are combat specialists and so die during the barricade attack when you're fighting the Terminator. Probably a good idea to take one or both with you (or have Mordin escort and bring Tali alongside whomever is your favorite character to have in your squad, so you have a good chance).

[stillnotking]

Legion6115 wrote...

Lyrandori wrote...

And, well, Mordin... don't know how he died, just saw him at the end scene laying there, dead on the ground.

Like my Tali. My guess is neither are combat specialists and so die during the barricade attack when you're fighting the Terminator. Probably a good idea to take one or both with you (or have Mordin escort and bring Tali alongside whomever is your favorite character to have in your squad, so you have a good chance).

I didn't assign Mordin or Tali to escort, nor did I take them with me on the final mission and both survived (both playthroughs).

No one is entirely sure what causes them to die in some games.  There are many theories.  It may have something to do with how quickly you complete the final part of the mission.

[Ashielle]

Legion and Tali died on my first playthrough  I got some upgrades and all loyalties.

Legion died just after i entered the omega relay, got frazzled, and i wasnt that bothered as id only just done its loyalty mission so i barely knew the character.

I sent Tali into the vents and as she was helping to shut the door she got shot in the head. I was gutted  Liked Tali since the first game and i felt so bad she died  Gonna have to play again with my femshep and put things right for ME3

[Vaeliorin]

I had Tali and Legion die on my first attempt. They died because I had Tali lead both fire teams, because if there's anyone my Shepard trusts in the galaxy, it's Tali. Sadly, that didn't work out so well.

So, I reloaded, sent Tali through the vents and had Jacob lead the fire teams. Cue Mordin randomly dying. That whole bit was weird, though. The first time, Garrus was the one who almost fell of the platform, and the second time it was Miranda (been using Garrus/Miranda as my team most of the time.)

I had all the upgrades except one sniper rifle damage, one tech damage, and one shield upgrade (no idea how I'm supposed to come up with another 200k, seeing as I already have the galaxy 100% cleared...)

So now I need to go through the end again, because I want a clean save for ME3.

Modifié par Vaeliorin, 03 février 2010 - 01:44 .

[Exploding8]

Legion. He made it through the vents, but I chose to have him on my squad for the next section. He was taken away by the swarms. I was bummed that he wasn't on my squad anymore, not that he "died", considering he's a Geth and they don't really have "individuals". Everyone else survived though.



On my NewGame+ I'm hoping to save everyone.



It seems like who dies is somewhat random though, or maybe it has something to do with Upgrades. But I had Legion's upgrade, so that wouldn't make sense. Maybe certain characters just die if they're in certain slots at certain times.



Guess it doesn't really matter though, lol.

[OsirisLee]

Everyone lived, and honestly I was a little disappointed. I thought "That went oddly smooth for a suicide mission." Most awesome final mission ever though. Using actual leadership to keep your team alive, who'da thunk it?

[aesnxs]

mordin died, he was loyal and everything, on the last bit i had miranda leading the second team, which was a mistake, second round through, i took mordin with me instead and had garrus lead the second team, all survived

[Sassymcgee]

Legion died at the door and Jack died leading the second team.



Had samara as my biotic, and had ...someone, lead the first. Obviously screwed up my choices in who lead the other teams : /



I'm not sure I'd like having everyone survive though. I mean, I threw legion in there because I saw it as a sacrificial position. Having gone through the game making sure I didn't read any forums and such, I felt as if I pegged the tech position as a death position, so I was glad I didn't send tali. Then I felt the second squad was going to take a hit, and so I decided on Jack.



I would have sent Garrus or Miranda as leaders, but I had become extremely attached to having them in my party. Something about those two together just wipes the floor with everything and my adept.



Probably will be going through the game again, and will leave that file there to reserve my decisions, as I like to do. It will probably be how I go into ME3.



I'm already penalized by not wanting to play the game full paragon/renegade, might as well be honest with myself in these aspects as well.