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[Mikazukinoyaiba2]

Wow you guys made some poor choices.



I lost only Thane, I thought he'd be perfect for the Infiltration mission due to him being an assassin/spy and also how we first met him.



I didn't lose anyone else, so overall a good ending I suppose since Thane was terminally ill...



I chose Zaaed for the initial strike team, which was a common sense thing to do since he is the most battle-hardened out of anyone and would know how to lead a group.



I chose Samara to be my biotic shield, since she is an asari and thus the most powerful. Also I chose Garrus for the diversionary team since (and it even tells you in his description) he excels in guerilla warfare and tactics. This means he knows how to strike at enemies without taking heavy casualties and quickly fleeing.



Why would anyone choose anything else (like that huge target of a Krogan) is beyond me.

[Kirika69]

First playthrough, mix of renegade and paragon (mostly renegade): everyone lived, including kelly and the rest of the crew.



rather anti-climatic actually

[cruc1al]

Why would anyone choose anything else (like that huge target of a Krogan) is beyond me.

Well, either of Miranda and Jacob work well as leaders too. And obviously the infiltrator has to be a tech specialist which Thane isn't, so you'd have to choose Tali or Legion. And you can have Jack as your biotic specialist equally well as Samara.

For me, only Tali (tech specialist) died, because she wasn't loyal.

[binaryemperor]

I never understood why Grunt died due to that one shot in the gut, when the ENTIRE GAME NEVER SHUTS UP about how the Krogan are "practically invincible"

In fact, Grunt should survive every part of the suicide mission for that reason. Maybe except for the collector swarm bit, but even then, how could they lift him off the ground? He's a big brute.

Modifié par binaryemperor, 03 février 2010 - 05:26 .

[fogofeternity]

Mikazukinoyaiba2 wrote...

Why would anyone choose anything else (like that huge target of a Krogan) is beyond me.

Kinda depends on how you approach it though.

Wasn't going to choose Tali for the vent mission purely because she's my LI and my Shep plays favorites. And it's not blindingly obvious from the conversation that tech is best (given Jacob gives the impression that he has a better change of making it through, if not being a tech specialist).

Zaeed seemed as reasonable a choice for a team leader as Garrus, when I swapped them around, having been a mercenary company leader and all.

In some ways, I actually think it makes it a far more powerful and realistic story that a couple of your team members die during the final mission. Otherwise it's a bit Disneyfied - a tiny group of people take out a homebase holding presumably tens of thousands of Collectors, a Reaper spawn, husks and Harbinger, and *nobody* dies?

[Kallikrates Koios]

Only one died, Jacob.

[RPGmom28]

Tali and Thane. I sent her into the vents but she got hit by a blaster or something when the doors were closing. Thane got caught up in a swarm.

[RPGmom28]

IntrepidProdigy wrote...

I lost Zaeed on my first playthrough, I made him leader of the 2nd distraction team, didn't feel bad though as I didn't really feel much for the character in the first place. Other than that I lost no more squad mates and had Legion + Miranda in my squad all the way through. I'm still quite disturbed though after watching Kelly get liquified, she was the only girl on the ship that I wanted to get with, besides Samara anyway. On my second playthrough now though, don't intend to make the same mistakes.

I adore Samara and wanted my male Shep to date her.  Was really ticked when I found out he couldn't.  As a compromise I always take her and Garrus everywhere I go.  Reave is quite nice.  And she's so dignified and lovely.  If I was a guy I'd probably be completely into her.

[NeoGuardian86]

no one died, i was panicking there for Tali.



she was screaming on that last valve, so i killed off the Harbinger, went invisible (Infiltrators for the win) and RAN for the last one.

[mimartin]

Lost Jack only, knew it was a mistake putting her in charge of the diversion team, but I wanted to reward her loyalty and I could not think of anyone else that would cause more havoc than her.

Did not lose any crew members.

Modifié par mimartin, 03 février 2010 - 06:08 .

[Mikazukinoyaiba2]

[quote]fogofeternity wrote...



[quote]Mikazukinoyaiba2 wrote...



In some ways, I actually think it makes it a far more powerful and realistic story that a couple of your team members die during the final mission. Otherwise it's a bit Disneyfied - a tiny group of people take out a homebase holding presumably tens of thousands of Collectors, a Reaper spawn, husks and Harbinger, and *nobody* dies?

[/quote]I agree, Thane's death seemed more cinematic too me and more touching for Shepard since Thane was dying, going over the last moments of his life and reflecting on it, and confiding in Shepard who he admitted was his first friend in a long time.



Thane's death made Shepard committed to destroying the Collector base and denouncing Cerebrus, who are human supramacists. You see my Shepard has the Earth-born Ruthless origin, which I took to mean he takes the mission as highest priority, not that he doesn't care for his squadmates or team but knows that they have to fulfill their missions. I see it that my Shepard was the only survivor only by chance and that he regrets it, so he is empathetic and cares about anyone on his crew as a result of that. Not that he is some heartless bastard.

[Squints1318]

My first playthrough made me pissed. I lost soooo many people. Jacob, because Samara didn't hold the swarm back long enough. Tali, because she got hit while trying to close the door. Jack, because she did. And Legion, because I didn't upgrade the Normandy's shields and he got blown away. Oh, and the entire Normandy's crew, because I didn't have anyone escort them back. Needless to say, I was maaad.

Modifié par Squints1318, 03 février 2010 - 06:15 .

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

binaryemperor wrote...
Maybe except for the collector swarm bit, but even then, how could they lift him off the ground? He's a big brute.

Could also ask then how Shep can lift him up when he starts sliding down the platform... like my first playthrough FemShep managed to do.

Actually was thinking about that after watching some more slides... has Shep got some sort of metal hooks on his/her outfit or something?

The scene to me reminds me of 'Batman Begins' when Ducard is sliding down the ice slope and Bruce slides after him but as gets to the end he starts digging into the ice to make sure he can actually stop himself from going over as well.

I know have to suspend sense of realism at some point but it never is clearly shown how Shep stops from going over him/herself and to also lift up Grunt of all people

Anyway I digress... first playthrough I lost Thane (didn't have Tali so no shield upgrades and no Legion to take first spot as flame grilled party member) then I lost Jacob after the vents (due to the aforementioned members not being in team). Everyone else survived, had Jack as biotic, Garrus and Miranda taking it in turns as Leaders with Grunt and Garrus as final battle teammates and Mordin as escort. I intend at some point to redo this playthrough from an earlier save so I can have Kasumi in my squad and make some other changes, although the end result will possibly be the same although Grunt will probably also join Jacob and Thane in death as he won't be loyal, I did his loyalty mission after the IFF not realising I had 2 side missions I could've used instead but wasn't in the mood to go back to a previous save to change it.

Why would I do all that, its all about me roleplaying how my FemShep would handle situations.

Despite being fairly xenophobic, she did grow to respect Thane and both him and Jacob were tragic losses to her. I did my best to save Jacob, she was an infiltrator so I kept going into cloak and storm running to each valve switch. Still didn't matter

Edit: @Squints was Samara and Jack not loyal?

Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 03 février 2010 - 06:16 .

[Rockmonkey55]

1st time thru I lost no one and that was having Legion in vents and Garrus lead 2nd team So it seems that is the right path.. I did the same in 2nd playthrough and Legion and Garrus survived again.. I used Thane the first time to lead the surviors back and they made it, I used Zaeed the second time to lead them back and they all made it. I lost Mordin the second time thru because i pit him in my team going thru swarm. He died off camera just before I got thru. All loyal, All upgrades. Ist time thru I only saved the doctor as she sreamed at me I should have come sooner. (ouch). 2nd time thru I had everything ready and left right away. I was able to save all the crew except for 3 or four background crew member.

[Squints1318]

Edit: @Squints was Samara and Jack not loyal?

Neither were. But on my second playthrough Jack wasn't and she survived anyway. Strange, huh?

[Menzana Leanda]

No one died

[Gabey5]

thane

jack

legion

[Exile Isan]

No one left behind.

[KroganBattleMaster212]

I only lost Jacob on my first playthrough. Sent him through the vents and he was killed closing the doors. I felt a bit sad when he died. I've played the ending mission again and saved everyone.

[Doug84]

Maria Caliban wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

None.

The same.

Hathur wrote...

I assume that you have to pick the "right" person for the job (and they must be loyal) to avoid them being killed?

I assume as much. Fully researched their stuff too.

Yup, same here - I think people die if you don't have their loyally, and don't research their extra tech - that said, I didn't research the Geth sniper rifle first time around, and he came out alive still.

[guru7892]

I lost legion and Thane.



but legion doesn't count, because hes just a manifestation of the geth collective mind, and therefore an utterly uninteresting character, its like talking to a crowd (and I romanced Tali).



Thane was gonna die anyway and he came in pretty late, and I wasn't that interested in him anyway. so its not a big loss for me.



honestly I kinda want to make a Fail Shepard and just do everything wrong and screw everything over... but that requires playing ME1 again...might be worth it though...

[RPGmom28]

I left Tali and Thane dead instead of reloading and trying some other way. It's a dangerous mission and hard to believe that no one would die. And besides, it creates an emotional response in the player. When you get to the end of a truly great game and the credits roll, your heart should be pounding and you should be all keyed up and into what just happened. You mentally went on an adventure. And in spite of yourself, you felt anger, triumph, joy, and sadness. That made the game memorable.

[slinky317]

I lost Mordin. For no freakin' reason. I'm so bitter.

[dminto29]

I lost mordin the first play through even though I think I had all upgrades..Second time I sent him back with the crew and lost nobody.



Third time I am trying to off the characters I don't like bye bye Jacob and Jack.