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Thats nice.



*goes back to playing the game*

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 I personally think it's one of the best RPG's I've played, even on my Xbox version.

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What can i say? Too much marketing, too less progress since Baldurs Gate. It's more like KOTOR or Mass Effect with a new graphics engine. Game mechanics are much the same. Still we have prologue, then choice wich of 3 megaquest to accomplish first, then the final quest.



Great cutscenes with a lots hackandslash in between. Great stroryline and poor (exactly poor, i mean, not rich) gameplay.



So yes, perhaps it's the RPG of the year but it means only that companies wouldnt like to invest in RPGs and that theres no better ones. Which is a bit sad, but anyways... I still have fun with DAO, just not as "epic" as it was in advertisements.



Perhaps, future campaings will unveil whole potential of new setting.

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What can i say? Too much marketing, too less progress since Baldurs Gate. It's more like KOTOR or Mass Effect with a new graphics engine. Game mechanics are much the same. Still we have prologue, then choice wich of 3 megaquest to accomplish first, then the final quest.

Great cutscenes with a lots hackandslash in between. Great stroryline and poor (exactly poor, i mean, not rich) gameplay.

So yes, perhaps it's the RPG of the year but it means only that companies wouldnt like to invest in RPGs and that theres no better ones. Which is a bit sad, but anyways... I still have fun with DAO, just not as "epic" as it was in advertisements.

Perhaps, future campaings will unveil whole potential of new setting.

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wlcina wrote...

I am writing again, why I consider this game as "average":

1) COOP play, Bioware is stupid if they didnt add multiplayer to DA. Why ? It will make game playable 10 times longer ! Just have look at the Neverwinter Nights (1) - people are still playing over internet, modding comunity is working on their new mods. This is just fact. Each good multiplayer game lasts much longer. Single player ? - you will win 2 - 3 times and you will never return to game again.

And I thought that NWN and BG are still played because great modding community, not because you could "coop play". The best mods for NWN are single player. And last time I checked DA is supposed to have Toolset, so I'm sure there will be plenty of interesting mods for DA

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wlcina wrote...



Where did you get I am playing WoW ? I am not.




Because of the nerd rage?

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wlcina wrote...

Think about DA as rpg - the game is pushing you directly to the end. No chance for your own options / opinions and so on, that is not RPGish.


How is that true? There are usually multiple ways you can go about finishing quests. Like in Redcliff for one.  Have you even played through the game once? And tried more than one origin?

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wlcina wrote...

I am writing again, why I consider this game as "average":

1) COOP play, Bioware is stupid if they didnt add multiplayer to DA. Why ? It will make game playable 10 times longer ! Just have look at the Neverwinter Nights (1) - people are still playing over internet, modding comunity is working on their new mods. This is just fact. Each good multiplayer game lasts much longer. Single player ? - you will win 2 - 3 times and you will never return to game again.

2) Tactics - there is ONE!! command action. I do not understand such this thing. Why just one ? This is called tactics ? horrible, just imagine they were at least 3, what a nice combos you can create.

3) User interface why on each side of my monitor, not ergonomic. You will have to run with you mouse here, then there, then there again.

4) Predefined paths , exploration killed. In RPG ? great ways to destroy one of great RPG elements.

... more are coming...

wow.. what great faults of this game... :blink:

i honestly wish the game wouldn´t have been hyped that much, so there would be way less bored kiddie trolls like you on these forums.

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It feels like Knights of the Old Rebuplic to me, which isn't surprising as it is Bioware.



That's one of the best games ever and, while at this stage in my playthrough I think it is falling slightly short of that title, it's still a pretty decent game. Best RPG I've played since that, certainly.

#85
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hack n slash actaully require to hack n slash



dragon age doesn't do that its just like BG and NWN with next gen flare.

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everyone is entitled to an opinion...

I am loving DA:O and I think it's one of the best rpg I have played in my life...

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There are enough constructive and unbiased professional reviews. Forum posts however, are seldom constructive reviews, but mostly just random rants by people who won't listento any reason and explanation and who only refer to their own weird, unfathomable, silly standards. Those posts might be deleted if they get out of hand. When it's all in boundaries, everyone can rant on.

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wlcina wrote...

Irxy wrote...

wlcina wrote...

Its average game, there are plenty games like Dragon Age, but without marketing and advertisement.

O rly? Please name those games then, maybe I missed some great rpgs on the market. Image IPB


The most closest to DA is Drakensang, then you should try Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 7, then you will see what ROLE PLAYING GAME is.



Drakensang is quite well-known (to me) and it definitely has many drawbacks. The story isn't very suspenseful, it's a traditionally linear game, you might call its aesthetic cheesy, its battle simplistic and unbalanced.... it just isn't so much of a burner. Chrono Trigger is 20 years old, or something like this. Now you'll say, no, it's 18,7 years old. Anyway, it's very, very old. And we're talking about games from the last 3 years at the very least. FF7 is perhaps not quite as old. But it still doesn't have the same high standards of realism, dialogs, complexity and choices and consequences as some slightly newer games. All in all, all your points are rather silly. Too bad.

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Seriously, if you think NWN (original campaign) was a great RPG and Dragon Age is not ... we have no common ground in taste.

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weell you obviously arent playing this game because there is way more then just 1 tactic

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wlcina wrote...

Irxy wrote...

wlcina wrote...

Its average game, there are plenty games like Dragon Age, but without marketing and advertisement.

O rly? Please name those games then, maybe I missed some great rpgs on the market. Image IPB


The most closest to DA is Drakensang, then you should try Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 7, then you will see what ROLE PLAYING GAME is.




none of the games listed(except maybe chrono trigger) are rpg's. ff7 while an amazing game is more like a rts based cinematic experiance. and lol at drakensang

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wlcina wrote...

1) COOP play, Bioware is stupid if they didnt add multiplayer to DA. Why ? It will make game playable 10 times longer ! Just have look at the Neverwinter Nights (1) - people are still playing over internet, modding comunity is working on their new mods. This is just fact. Each good multiplayer game lasts much longer. Single player ? - you will win 2 - 3 times and you will never return to game again.
your comments: MMORPG / WoW, answer: No I dont want to play MMORPG, I want to play this game with friends, like I did with all previous Bioware RPG games I mentioned, I want to make balanced party with my 2-3 friends and want to have fun with game, - in current state as SP game, it loosing this great potential

-While co-op can make any game more fun, I really enjoy my single-player experience, like most Bioware RPGs. I have other games for multi-player and do not believe every game should have it. Plus, I like being able to take my time and actually enjoy the setting rather than rush to the next loot cache. That being said, hopefully in the future, there will be support and mods for anyone who wishes multi-player gameplay in the Dragon Age setting.

2) Tactics - there is ONE!! command action. I do not understand such this thing. Why just one ? This is called tactics ? horrible, just imagine they were at least 3, what a nice combos you can create.
- no one answered for that, do you think it is ok ? :-)

-This still doesn't make any sense as I have multiple slots for each character. Ten hours in and I had at least 3 for each party member. The amount of options you get is great to fully customize your party to play the way you want it to. There are a lot of tactics involved, and I can only guess you are just trolling with this statement, or haven't even tried to understand the depth of the system.

3) User interface why on each side of my monitor, not ergonomic. You will have to run with you mouse here, then there, then there again.
- for some ppl it is ok, I agree, what about consensus - make it drag and drop where you want it, that would be best for all.

-Yet another topic I can only guess you are trying to rouse debate on, but again, this makes no sense. The UI is very minimal, and practically no different than most hotbar related games out there. Inventory and other hotkey elements are all in their proper places. I play on a  fairly big widescreen monitor and don't have any excess of running the mouse "here, then there, then there again." Also, with the UI elements, this kind of makes no sense with what you were saying.

4) Predefined paths , exploration killed. In RPG ? great ways to destroy one of great RPG elements.
your comments: play Morrowing (boring ? :-O) , I am not saying about extremly HUGE world.But about how the game is pulling your hand, and taking you where you have to be. I need some free space for me, I want to see here and there, there could be barricades, but not so close the predefined paths, you practically cannot move out of the way for a bit.

-Actually, the one topic I kind of agree with you on. Like almost all Bioware rpgs though, there is a pre-determined path. While the game does try to provide a sense of exploration, once you have "explored" an area, you kind of realize how limited the spaces really are. I like it in the fact that I know can explore, but not get overly distracted from the main setting. However, I can see those that want more of the "Elder Scrolls feeling" can be a bit disappointed
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Hehe, it's funny how the fanbois are always whining when somemone has a different opinion concerning their beloved game. "You bad troll! You say something bad about my game! MOMMY make it stop, make it go away!" *shakeshead*

I would have agreed concerning trolling telling from the first post. But later he elaborated why he doesn't like the game. If your opinion differs: fine. But don't tell people to shut up just because you don't want to hear their pov.



Apart from that I myself am as happy as can be too that I'm finally getting a new game that's not offering a basic at best single player experience because the devs wanted to feed the MP crowd another game. It really follows in the footsteps of BG, IWD and such. And that's exactly what I hoped for. I'll wait before purchasing it though till I can be sure that it doesn't have any major issues. Not mentioning the lack of time to play atm.


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Hehe, it's funny how the fanbois are always whining when somemone has a different opinion concerning their beloved game. "You bad troll! You say something bad about my game! MOMMY make it stop, make it go away!" *shakeshead*

I would have agreed concerning trolling telling from the first post. But later he elaborated why he doesn't like the game. If your opinion differs: fine. But don't tell people to shut up just because you don't want to hear their pov.



Apart from that I myself am as happy as can be too that I'm finally getting a new game that's not offering a basic at best single player experience because the devs wanted to feed the MP crowd another game. It really follows in the footsteps of BG, IWD and such. And that's exactly what I hoped for. I'll wait before purchasing it though till I can be sure that it doesn't have any major issues. Not mentioning the lack of time to play atm.

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I'm pretty sure Baldur's Gate 2 also "pushed you" directly to the end as well. Are you saying there are no side quests?

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One of the better games made in the last few years.

People like the tc who think its average or crap are little more then attention seeking trolls.

and you know what they say bout trolls?

Dont feed them

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Haven't all of Bioware's games been fairly linear? I know the BG series was. With the majority of their previous games being linear, why would you think they would change their formula for this game?

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wlcina wrote...
Baldurs Gate / Neverwinter Nihghts - that were RPG games. Dragon age ? its hack n slash with new "pause" option. 


....Baldur's Gate was hack n slash with pause options...

I can only conclude you never played Baldur's Gate.

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imemoria wrote...

Yaggo wrote...

imemoria wrote...

I have the same opinion, on 360 the game is a shame. the graphics are bad because the xbox hardware was not respected and the game is a just a port from pc. game that are 3 or 4 years old are better looking. the combat is ankward, you keep dieing a lot because of the lack of strategy due to the lack of isometric view. that's the main reason the difficulty has been dumbed down on the console, btw. I was waiting for this game for so long, that's depressing....


Consider this: Xbox360 version in USA=60$
Xbox360 version in Europe = 97$

Missing content, lousy implementation. How do they justify this? Is this a way to combat piracy? Yes, but in the opposite way...


yeah I guess we're in the same boat, paying 70 euros for this game I just feel ripped off...


Which is not EA or Biowares fault but the EU's and VAT.   If you want to **** and whine about something AT LEAST point them in the right direction.

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Cry more, you don't have to play the game. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that others won't