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[Valmy]

Darthboubou wrote...

I hate the fact that I paid 69$ for the game (xbox) and in the first few hours I am asked to BUY more quests with downloaded content, I paid for a complete game, and its not what I got. I dont have a problem with buying a complete expansion, but paying for quest, its really sad, Bioware should be ashamed

Yeah I don't understand why they should be ashamed for providing the option for more content.  You got a complete game.  This is a little expansion and it only costs $7 which is about one sandwich at any restaurant.  If you do not want to get the expansion then do not get the expansion.

But I do not understand the outrage at all.  Where exactly did you the impression buying the game entitles to other products the company produces?

[wlcina]

does rpg games have auto heal ? :-)

[Valmy]

wlcina wrote...

Valfrekr wrote...
If you don't like this game, there is a simple solution; don't play it anymore. Take it back to your retailer and get your money back.

I wish I could but no chance here. When you buy the game, and you open the box, then the retailer wont take it back.

Well you said so yourself you do not find it bad game simply not exceptional.  Maybe you can still get your money's worth and maybe it will grow on you.

I remember when Baldur's Gate came out there were all sorts of long and outraged posts about how horrible the game was for alot of the same reasons you listed (Well...except coop of course) but as time has gone on people have been able to forgive that game for its faults.

[macayle]

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

And what exactly is this ''cooperative gameplay'' in BG2? You are probably referring to some kind of mod? Also, BG did have more spells... but most of them were crap anyway. Once you got Abi Dalzim's Horrid Wilting you'd never cast another Melf Acid Arrow or Magic Missle. More areas to explore? Not that many.

he is referring to the fact that in BGI and BGII  the game was set up to also be played with other people.  ie you could link your computer directly to another or over the net and that person could play  with their character alongside yours.  So instead of your group being one PC and 5 NPC's it was two PC or 4 npcs.  or even up to 6 PC is you linked in enough  people.  This ability came with the game and did not require any modding by others.

[Valmy]

This ability came with the game and did not require any modding by others.

Yeah but Bioware never did it since. I guess it simply was not popular enough to justify the expense.

[Bruno Hslaw]

You will always get hate off fan boys on here. They can not tolerate the idea that any one direspects BW or their chosen game.



I agree they could have done more but you seriously are wasting your time on this lot. They will flame any dissent till its well cooked. The company went down hill from the Fiasco with Mass Effect and this shows they have yet to learn from their mistakes.

[AkomoCombine]

Darthboubou wrote...

I hate the fact that I paid 69$ for the game (xbox) and in the first few hours I am asked to BUY more quests with downloaded content, I paid for a complete game, and its not what I got. I dont have a problem with buying a complete expansion, but paying for quest, its really sad, Bioware should be ashamed

And the difference between this and player made content of NWN where you have to pay for certain weapons, armor,and access to certain areas is....?Dont deny it.Ive played NWN 1 and 2 online.While some modules are completely free others are not.D&D online has this system setup right now.Pay a monthly fee OR pay for one quest section of the game.That is how game companies make money.If they do not they go out of business then you have no games to play.

DAO  negative reviews being censored and deleted?Then what is this post doing up?LMAO!

[VanDraegon]

Darthboubou wrote...

I hate the fact that I paid 69$ for the game (xbox) and in the first few hours I am asked to BUY more quests with downloaded content, I paid for a complete game, and its not what I got. I dont have a problem with buying a complete expansion, but paying for quest, its really sad, Bioware should be ashamed

You got a complete game. You do not need the DLC to complete the campaign or any of the side quests.


Jebus, people will **** about anything....

[wrexingcrew]

wlcina wrote...

does rpg games have auto heal ? :-)

Huh, I didn't realize role-playing games were defined by their health mechanic.

For the record, I really dislike the health regen.  It's my least favorite part of the game...which means I think it's a hell of a game, because that's a fairly minor complaint.

A design feature you dislike does not determine the genre of a game.  If it's a major enough concern that it leads you to conclude that the game is a bad example of [genre], you're entitled to your opinion.

[EB Farnum]

wlcina wrote...

Think about DA as rpg - the game is pushing you directly to the end. No chance for your own options / opinions and so on, that is not RPGish.

I disagree.  Certainly the game has a story, of which the player is a major part.  However, I don't feel that I am being pushed.  I feel that there are major events taking place in this game world, and I have the opportunity to face them in whatever manner I feel will be most effective.  

[Ashbery]

I read stuff like this and just think it must an agenda based troll.This is best RPG since BG2.

[Cl_Flushentityhero]

Why is it that so many people who make inflammatory comments use poor grammar?

[Dom Queron]

What, this thread is still not censored or deleted. An outrage I tell you, an outrage!

[wlcina]

Cl_Flushentityhero wrote...

Why is it that so many people who make inflammatory comments use poor grammar?

Most usefull post I ever read.

[Malastare-]

wlcina wrote...
1) COOP play, Bioware is stupid if they didnt add multiplayer to DA. Why ? It will make game playable 10 times longer ! Just have look at the Neverwinter Nights (1) - people are still playing over internet, modding comunity is working on their new mods. This is just fact. Each good multiplayer game lasts much longer. Single player ? - you will win 2 - 3 times and you will never return to game again.

I know this might shock you, but I don't want multiplayer in DA.  Multiplayer requires quite a bit of extra coding (cue lots of people who don't know anything about software claiming it could be done in a week) and ends up requiring strange balancing and odd mechanics for the "non-primary" player.  I'd much rather have a good single player game.

wlcina wrote...
2) Tactics - there is ONE!! command action. I do not understand such this thing. Why just one ? This is called tactics ? horrible, just imagine they were at least 3, what a nice combos you can create.

Yes, there is one "Attack" action.  It makes you attack with your weapon(s).  Then, there are loads of other attacks (Well, just six on the consoles) that are immediately available.

Or are you saying you want: Hit, Jump & Hit, Twirl about & Hit, Hit and then Twirl, and Hit then Jump and do a Jig?

If so, then I'm afraid you've misunderstood the fighting style in DA.  DA is not a fighting sim.  It's not an FPS.  Its not a hack & slash.  It's not about button mashing the right combination of buttons to unleash The Uber-Sweep-Kick-Sword-Bash.  Its about putting your characters in the right positions and using the right strategy to defeat enemies.

wlcina wrote...
3) User interface why on each side of my monitor, not ergonomic. You will have to run with you mouse here, then there, then there again.

Right... it's so much worse than.... which other game do you want to hold up as the shining example?  Certainly not WoW, Oblivion or BG2?  Now, I've got the XBox version, but even that has a better interface than every other RPG I've seen for the console.  From what I've seen of the PC version, it's remarkably good.  Quite a few players and reviewers agree with me.  In fact, you're the first person I've heard complaints from... if we're to consider the fact that you have to mouse around the screen a complaint.

wlcina wrote...
4) Predefined paths , exploration killed. In RPG ? great ways to destroy one of great RPG elements.

Apparently you've never played: Baldur's Gate, Baldur's Gate 2, KotOR, KotOR 2, or Jade Empire.  This was "destroyed" long before DA ever came along.  I suppose DA will have to be content to be counted in with such RPG failures as BG2 and KotOR.

Seriously, sandbox RPGs are a recent invention, and for as fun as exploration might be, it comes at the expense of story narrative.  It is a different style and if you do your research, you'll find that the "linear" RPGs are the standard form, and its the sandbox RPGs which are the one's deviating from the norm.

[Ravenshrike]

wlcina wrote...

I am writing again, why I consider this game as "average":

1) COOP play, Bioware is stupid if they didnt add multiplayer to DA. Why ? It will make game playable 10 times longer ! Just have look at the Neverwinter Nights (1) - people are still playing over internet, modding comunity is working on their new mods. This is just fact. Each good multiplayer game lasts much longer. Single player ? - you will win 2 - 3 times and you will never return to game again.

No multiplayer in DA:O is perfectly fine, because that way the single player remains untainted and doesn't turn into the abortion that was the NWN OC. I would like to see a multiplayer add-on for DA2, but I wouldn't want the OC impacted in any way.

2) Tactics - there is ONE!! command action. I do not understand such this thing. Why just one ? This is called tactics ? horrible, just imagine they were at least 3, what a nice combos you can create.

This is the one point on which i agree, action queues for the characters would be very, very useful.

3) User interface why on each side of my monitor, not ergonomic. You will have to run with you mouse here, then there, then there again.

I have no clue what your gripe is here, seeing as this is why a game has hotkeys and the only mouse actions you should be making in combat are to select characters and hit hotbar buttons beyond1-10.

4) Predefined paths , exploration killed. In RPG ? great ways to destroy one of great RPG elements.

... more are coming...

You're mixing up sandbox with RPG there. Completely seperate concepts.

[StonerMkII]

wlcina wrote...

LMAO

moderators are deleting negative comments about the game, it hardens my opinion, that my money
were wasted when I bought Dragon Age. It isnt superb game, as review says, its just hype.
Its average game, there are plenty games like Dragon Age, but without marketing and advertisement.

Yep, you may consider this game as funny, great, but if you think deeper - its just average, and have too much missing rpg elements to get 9 or 9.5 points out of 10.

Baldurs Gate / Neverwinter Nihghts - that were RPG games. Dragon age ? its hack n slash with new "pause" option.

Wake up ppl :-)  

Dragon Age a new hack and slash with a pause button? My friend you obviously are not bright enough to see the differences between a game such as Diablo 2 or Torchlight and Dragon Age. When you say hack and slash most people thing going out to kill crap or "grind" to get experience. Theres no grinding in this game. Dragon Age has more dialog and story based lore then it does battles. Period. In 17+ hours of game play my character is level 12, and if you could get experience points from all the dialog this game has, you would be well over level 50 in less then 17 hours. Not a RPG? You need to learn what a RPG is.

I'll agree that BG, and NwN are excellent games. But Dragon Age runs right with them on being awesome *true* RPG's.


Goddamn i wish people would stop bringing up multiplayer as a reason why they think the game fails. Seriously, shut the hell up. The game doesnt need multiplayer. Oblivion doesnt have multiplayer, and neither does Fallout 3, so why does Dragon Age need it?

[Ravenshrike]

double post

Modifié par Ravenshrike, 06 novembre 2009 - 06:13 .

[Fluwm]

Ashbery wrote...

I read stuff like this and just think it must an agenda based troll.This is best RPG since BG2.

Insofar as Western RPGs go, I completely agree. The only game on a similar tier would be The Witcher, IMHO.

[Gvaz]

Baldur's gate is trash.

[wlcina]

StonerMkII wrote...
Goddamn i wish people would stop bringing up multiplayer as a reason why they think the game fails. Seriously, shut the hell up. The game doesnt need multiplayer. Oblivion doesnt have multiplayer, and neither does Fallout 3, so why does Dragon Age need it?

I dont want MP in F3, nor Oblivion, these are NOT party games. DA is.

I am trying to say just my review of DA - DA is an average rpg for me. It does not have features, it should have. 

[Felene]

wlcina wrote...

Vellen wrote...

wlcina wrote...

LMAO

moderators are deleting negative comments about the game, it hardens my opinion, that my money
were wasted when I bought Dragon Age. It isnt superb game, as review says, its just hype.
Its average game, there are plenty games like Dragon Age, but without marketing and advertisement.

Yep, you may consider this game as funny, great, but if you think deeper - its just average, and have too much missing rpg elements to get 9 or 9.5 points out of 10.

shoundn't you be playing WoW, sounds like this game is a bit too deep for you.

Baldurs Gate / Neverwinter Nihghts - that were RPG games. Dragon age ? its hack n slash with new "pause" option.

Wake up ppl :-)  

Maybe you should go back to WoW.

Where did you get I am playing WoW ? I am not.

If not, how do you know what WoW is?

Anyway, from the start Bioware state very clearly that they want to make a "SINGLE PLAYER RPG" that is a spirit succeser to BG's series. Not a MMORPG or NWN3.

Moderators are NOT deleting negative comments about the game, they are deleting personal comments that are not REASONABLE.

You shouldn't be here from the start. It is very clear your seeking for a different game.

Leave, please. You know the way.

[StonerMkII]

wlcina wrote...

StonerMkII wrote...
Goddamn i wish people would stop bringing up multiplayer as a reason why they think the game fails. Seriously, shut the hell up. The game doesnt need multiplayer. Oblivion doesnt have multiplayer, and neither does Fallout 3, so why does Dragon Age need it?

I dont want MP in F3, nor Oblivion, these are NOT party games. DA is.

I am trying to say just my review of DA - DA is an average rpg for me. It does not have features, it should have. 

A party game? Ok ill bite. Take FF games. Just about EVERY FF game that has ever been made besides one horrible MMO has been a "party game". Ive never seen anyone ****ing and moaning about FF 10 not having multiplayer. So BioWare makes a RPG with NPC party members, JUST like the FF series, but BioWare HAS to include multiplayer? Heh, sorry but i could destroy anyones reason as to why DA should have multi support. The fact is its not. Why cant BioWare make a completely singleplayer game? Mass Effect didnt have multiplayer...and no one is ****ing about that. Oh, and it too is a "party" game. Sorry but your points as to why it should are irrelevent. If you want a multiplayer game, go play Borderlands i think it would better suit your needs.

[wlcina]

StonerMkII wrote...
.....Sorry but your points as to why it should are irrelevent. If you want a multiplayer game, go play Borderlands i think it would better suit your needs.

MR StonerMKII I am sorry that I wish have multiplayer in this game... Is it sarcastic enough ?

What about this FF?:
http://www.joystiq.c...y-agito-xiii-t/

Why they add MP when no one wanted it ? 

[artmonster1967]

Darthboubou wrote...

I hate the fact that I paid 69$ for the game (xbox) and in the first few hours I am asked to BUY more quests with downloaded content, I paid for a complete game, and its not what I got. I dont have a problem with buying a complete expansion, but paying for quest, its really sad, Bioware should be ashamed

hehe...
trying to get your nerdrage into as many threads as possible I see.


Why did you buy this game at launch anyway? if the price is really that much of a factor? You then come into it with preconcieved self-rightiousness...belieiviing that you are above the average consumer and can demand to your whims...hehe....really...we laugh at you.....srsly...AT you.

if your gonna be a stooge...why not wait for a month or two when the game drops 15-20 bucks.....and keeps dropping as time goes on? Happens to every game pardner......( I just got Mass Effect for 10 bucks for example ).

hehe

yup....still laughing at you Nancy.

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