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[Ponce de Leon]

Dog would make sense if you didn't have the option to play the GW from Orlais. Also note that Oghren, according to the DA unofficial wikipedia was written by more writers, so in order to not make chaos in the offices, it would have been the wisest choice not to choose who makes more work, no?

Here's the line :

According to Sheryl Chee, though Oghren was written mostly by Jay Turner, most of the BioWare writers, including herself, Mary Kirby, and David Gaider, have had a hand in writing him.

[Brahox]

Aethilgar wrote...

What... no dog?!

Im sure the dog gotta be in... If not that makes me a sad panada.

[xCobalt]

I think its Oghren because hes the only party member that may be willing to become a Grey Warden. Doesn't the end of Origins state that they're trying to rebuild the Grey Wardens? Oghren seems like the best candidate.

[Ponce de Leon]

"What? You want me to drink THAT? *drinks* Ah well, I was expecting something worse, but... wait. THIS IS MARVELOUS! It has the effect of common ale but 10 times faster. I want more of it! "

*falls to the ground sleepy*

[Stippling]

xCobalt wrote...

I think its Oghren because hes the only party member that may be willing to become a Grey Warden. Doesn't the end of Origins state that they're trying to rebuild the Grey Wardens? Oghren seems like the best candidate.

At the end of my Origin Zevran stated he'd want to be a Grey Warden.

Anyways, I'm going to repost my comments on a long dead thread.

I hate to bring too much unecessary speculation, but if the returning companion is in fact Oghren, does anyone else think the root cause of this might because of his voice actor, Steve Blum?

If you look at the cast of the main companions in Origins, as well as the comparison of the various voice actors that portray them, it seems only obvious that Steve Blum would be the most cost-effective choice (since a companion would have the most lines).

Take for example the voice of Alistair, Steve Valentine. The man has been in a lot of famous shows and other media, including but not limited to House MD, Monk, Boston Legal, Chuck, and Crossing
Jordan.

I'm sure most of you know the extent of Claudia Black's acting career (I myself didn't until I played this game). But this again shows that she was probably one of the more noteable voices lent to DA:O.

EDIT: Don't forget Arl Howe by Tim Curry... can you say NIGEL THORNBERRY?

Then look at the career of Steve Blum, who I'll be the first to admit has a fabulous resume and is probably
one of the best voice actors of the video game genre. But lets face the facts: the man has been in countless hundreds of video games. Some of which of no noteable significance... Within the last ten years alone he has given his voice to different mediums over 250 times. Is it simply the availability of such a voice actor to quickly, effectively and cheaply (cheap as opposed to Steve Valentine or Claudia Black) deliver quality voice-overs that made him the returning character of Dragon Age, or is it truly because this is the perceived favorite of the
audience?

Now I'm fully aware of the theory that he's the easiest to reimplement into the game (without getting into too much
detail in a non-spoiler section), but I just hope that returning companion =/= character returning in a significant form. Because if the saviors of Ferelden just leave the Grey Warden and vanish into thin air when its all over, how trivial were all those bonds formed?

TL:DR Steve Blum is a cheaper voice-over option than some of the more favorited companions.

(DISCLAIMER: I love Dragon Age and even if Oghren is the returning companion I will buy Awakening, cherish it, and love it.)

Modifié par Stippling, 03 février 2010 - 07:49 .

[Metallicka]

I think Dog will be back in addition to Oghren or Alistair, after all, the real expense to bringing back a character is paying the voice actor, they can use the same barks, whines, and yelps from the previous game for Dog

Stippling wrote...

xCobalt wrote...

I think its Oghren because hes the only party member that may be willing to become a Grey Warden. Doesn't the end of Origins state that they're trying to rebuild the Grey Wardens? Oghren seems like the best candidate.

At the end of my Origin Zevran stated he'd want to be a Grey Warden.

Anyways, I'm going to repost my comments on a long dead thread.

I hate to bring too much unecessary speculation, but if the returning companion is in fact Oghren, does anyone else think the root cause of this might because of his voice actor, Steve Blum?

If you look at the cast of the main companions in Origins, as well as the comparison of the various voice actors that portray them, it seems only obvious that Steve Blum would be the most cost-effective choice (since a companion would have the most lines).

Take for example the voice of Alistair, Steve Valentine. The man has been in a lot of famous shows and other media, including but not limited to House MD, Monk, Boston Legal, Chuck, and Crossing
Jordan.

I'm sure most of you know the extent of Claudia Black's acting career (I myself didn't until I played this game). But this again shows that she was probably one of the more noteable voices lent to DA:O.

EDIT: Don't forget Arl Howe by Tim Curry... can you say NIGEL THORNBERRY?

Then look at the career of Steve Blum, who I'll be the first to admit has a fabulous resume and is probably
one of the best voice actors of the video game genre. But lets face the facts: the man has been in countless hundreds of video games. Some of which of no noteable significance... Within the last ten years alone he has given his voice to different mediums over 250 times. Is it simply the availability of such a voice actor to quickly, effectively and cheaply (cheap as opposed to Steve Valentine or Claudia Black) deliver quality voice-overs that made him the returning character of Dragon Age, or is it truly because this is the perceived favorite of the
audience?

Now I'm fully aware of the theory that he's the easiest to reimplement into the game (without getting into too much
detail in a non-spoiler section), but I just hope that returning companion =/= character returning in a significant form. Because if the saviors of Ferelden just leave the Grey Warden and vanish into thin air when its all over, how trivial were all those bonds formed?

TL:DR Steve Blum is a cheaper voice-over option than some of the more favorited companions.

(DISCLAIMER: I love Dragon Age and even if Oghren is the returning companion I will buy Awakening, cherish it, and love it.)

I would agree with this except alot of people myself included believe that Anders is voiced by Steve Valentine, this might be because Anders looks so much like he could be the third brother to Cailan and Alistair, but it sounds like the same guy to me.

Modifié par Metallicka, 03 février 2010 - 07:58 .

[Carodej]

dark-lauron wrote...

Dog would make sense if you didn't have the option to play the GW from Orlais. Also note that Oghren, according to the DA unofficial wikipedia was written by more writers, so in order to not make chaos in the offices, it would have been the wisest choice not to choose who makes more work, no?
Here's the line :

According to Sheryl Chee, though Oghren was written mostly by Jay Turner, most of the BioWare writers, including herself, Mary Kirby, and David Gaider, have had a hand in writing him.

Good point about Dog and an Orlesian Warden.  But I've always thought that Oghren was the most logical choice for many reasons, and a lot of others have felt the same way.  Since this is a dark fantasy, I fear the likliest reasons Dog wouldn't be in the expansion are unpleasant ones.  If only Dog had been female, then there would have been a happy reason for him not to be in the expansion.

[Carodej]

Stippling wrote...

Anyways, I'm going to repost my comments on a long dead thread.

I hate to bring too much unecessary speculation, but if the returning companion is in fact Oghren, does anyone else think the root cause of this might because of his voice actor, Steve Blum?

If you look at the cast of the main companions in Origins, as well as the comparison of the various voice actors that portray them, it seems only obvious that Steve Blum would be the most cost-effective choice (since a companion would have the most lines).

Take for example the voice of Alistair, Steve Valentine. The man has been in a lot of famous shows and other media, including but not limited to House MD, Monk, Boston Legal, Chuck, and Crossing
Jordan.

I'm sure most of you know the extent of Claudia Black's acting career (I myself didn't until I played this game). But this again shows that she was probably one of the more noteable voices lent to DA:O.

EDIT: Don't forget Arl Howe by Tim Curry... can you say NIGEL THORNBERRY?

Then look at the career of Steve Blum, who I'll be the first to admit has a fabulous resume and is probably
one of the best voice actors of the video game genre. But lets face the facts: the man has been in countless hundreds of video games. Some of which of no noteable significance... Within the last ten years alone he has given his voice to different mediums over 250 times. Is it simply the availability of such a voice actor to quickly, effectively and cheaply (cheap as opposed to Steve Valentine or Claudia Black) deliver quality voice-overs that made him the returning character of Dragon Age, or is it truly because this is the perceived favorite of the
audience?

Now I'm fully aware of the theory that he's the easiest to reimplement into the game (without getting into too much detail in a non-spoiler section), but I just hope that returning companion =/= character returning in a significant form. Because if the saviors of Ferelden just leave the Grey Warden and vanish into thin air when its all over, how trivial were all those bonds formed?

TL:DR Steve Blum is a cheaper voice-over option than some of the more favorited companions.

(DISCLAIMER: I love Dragon Age and even if Oghren is the returning companion I will buy Awakening, cherish it, and love it.)

I agree that this is probably a factor too.  I just doubt it is any one thing that made Oghren the one they picked to return.  I also think BW has a good working relationship with Steve Blum, and I believe he also did the voice of Gorim in DA:O as well as Grunt in ME2.

[Ponce de Leon]

Hah! But if you look at Dog's back... ugh... ok, I won't continue.

Still, was looking at Anders' vid, there is another shot of Oghren at 0:19, swinging an axe. This is becoming more frequent.

[ankuu]

Look guys, if you don't like Oghren there are other 5 char to choose for your party. It's not like he is the only one. The other char might appear only to talk to you, not fight with you.



Personally i'm rather happy that they decided to keep Morrigan away for a while, i think she cooks up something big xD As for Alistair, i am glad to see him being a king - a good one - as i choose him to be. Hopefully he'll be around, maybe not as a companion, but as a character. I hope he won't be jumping on elves - like his daddy did - while i am away tho xD

[Ponce de Leon]

I seriously hope you are not referring to me, yes? Because I LOVE Oghren.

"Here comes OGHREN!"

[Carodej]

dark-lauron wrote...

Hah! But if you look at Dog's back... ugh... ok, I won't continue.
Still, was looking at Anders' vid, there is another shot of Oghren at 0:19, swinging an axe. This is becoming more frequent.

Dog's back... or looking at Dog when he rolls on his back?

Yep, you can see someone who is probably Oghren in all the trailers, as well as the one shot in the one trailer where it's definitely Oghren - or else his identical twin brother he forgot to tell you about.    What I don't understand is why they say it's a secret who the companion is, but they show him in all the trailers.

[Posioned]

Eh I still wont believe 100% that it's Oghren until I hear it from a dev. Mostly because one thing keeps bugging me a bit. They've said that the returning character is a secret. Well if it's a secret, why put said returning character so blatantly in the trailers? Plus I still want to hold out hope it's anyone but Oghren. I really dislike that guy.

[Ponce de Leon]

Why would they make themselves hate so much from the Oghren fans? If it's not him, as I said, I'm going to kill them. Seriously, I will hardly buy any other game, because I know they aren't serious.

[Zeleen]

from everything I've seen, videos especially it really looks like Alister.. which makes a lot of sense, he's been there pretty much since the beginning of your journey. I'd be pleased if it is.

[TalliNV]

Posioned wrote...

Eh I still wont believe 100% that it's Oghren until I hear it from a dev. Mostly because one thing keeps bugging me a bit. They've said that the returning character is a secret. Well if it's a secret, why put said returning character so blatantly in the trailers? Plus I still want to hold out hope it's anyone but Oghren. I really dislike that guy.

It would be easy for the devs to release the trailers with the stunt-Oghren to throw everyone off...hmmm....

[Posioned]

I would love for it to be Alistair. But so far from the looks of it I don't think he'll be anything more than a NPC.

[KahnyaGnorc]

Has anybody stated that the "returning favorite" is one set character? Alistair-as-king would just as likely be adventuring in Awakening as Your-character-as-king-or-queen. If you go off adventuring with Leliana after Origin, then it would not make any sense to NOT have her along. It could be that Oghren is the "default choice" for returning companion, which would explain his presence in the trailer (just like a "default" Shepard in ME2 commercials)

[Ponce de Leon]

They said it would be too much work for more characters, so they decided for just one, if I recall correctly.

I wouldn't mind Alistair or Leliana, even Zev would be appreciated. But I like Oghren more. If it's Morrigan, I hope there is an option to cut her head on sight.

[Carodej]

KahnyaGnorc wrote...

Has anybody stated that the "returning favorite" is one set character? Alistair-as-king would just as likely be adventuring in Awakening as Your-character-as-king-or-queen. If you go off adventuring with Leliana after Origin, then it would not make any sense to NOT have her along. It could be that Oghren is the "default choice" for returning companion, which would explain his presence in the trailer (just like a "default" Shepard in ME2 commercials)

Yes, it's been stated it's one set character.  And that makes more sense than writng 10 times as much dialogue, paying 10 times as many voice actors, etc.  Especially if they were only going to allow you to use one.  It's just too expensive and complicated to do it in that fashion.  Great for us players, but tough on the developers and the beancounters wouldn't be happy about it either.

[KahnyaGnorc]

From my playing, if it was only one, Leliana would be the only one to make sense.

[Carodej]

Just had an aha moment! I think the reason why the devs don't cofirm it's Oghren but we see him in clips is...marketing! This topic keeps coming up again and again, it helps keep Awakening in all of our minds. This generates a lot of buzz and free advertising for the expansion.



If they just told us who it is, there would be the praise threads and the whine threads and then things would die down. Instead, they let us know with brief glimpses in trailers, but won't confirm it. So we have people talking conspiracy theories (the devs are putting in Oghren's model just to trick us), and people grasping at straws trying to say why it's not Oghren but really their fav instead, etc.



The only bad publicity is no publicity.

[Rolenka]

Aethilgar wrote...

What... no dog?!

Came to say this.

[MaliceDelight]

TheGriffonsShallRiseAgain wrote...

Yeah its Ohgren but we will still see alistair I believe. Oh and Wynne(I think cause I thought I saw her in the trailer controlling Sylvan Trees' XP) And if im not mistaken the ghostly figure in trailer 1 for awakening might be either Loghain or Cailan. Other than that im sure its just oghren recruit and only those 2 visibles.

F that ****, she said she hopes i get murdered by darkspawn and left my party.....the next time i see her i'll strike her down with my own hands.

Modifié par MaliceDelight, 03 février 2010 - 09:19 .