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[BiancoAngelo7]

Whenever I get to the part where Im supposed to be able to choose who I let follow me, it just automatically goes to my shepard choosing Samara. Am i doing something wrong?

[Sashem]

You need to be full Renegade I think.... Don't take my word for it thought....

[SinHound]

You can do it with paragon options, as well... I believe you have to resist her temptation or whatever with the Blue (or Red?) Dialogue option.



Really, though, I just don't like Morinth. Maybe if you had a reason to feel bad for her (like if she expressed any remorse, aside from being a sociopath), but as it stands there's no real compelling reason to pick Morinth for EITHER Shep.

[BiancoAngelo7]

oooooh that makes sense I always play as a boy scout paragon and never choose either blue or red options cuz i thought it would fail the loyalty mission lol I thought it might be something like that

Modifié par BiancoAngelo7, 03 février 2010 - 01:07 .

[Arlaarlaarla]

Well not full renegade, but a good chuck of renegade status would be in order.

Was more or less full paragon, with about 2 blocks of renegade. And as far as I know, I had the option to chose between them.

[Scylene]

I wasn't full Renegade (maybe 4 bars?) and I got the option. You just need to basically make sure you don't fall under her control (whether with Renegade or Paragon options) and I believe the choice will be available to you.

And by the way, you should probably have posted this in the Spoiler Section (with a different title as well since you gave away a pretty big spoiler in it). I had no idea I could choose between them until that moment in the game so I'm sure others would appreciate being surprised as well.

Modifié par Scylene, 03 février 2010 - 01:28 .

[Gabey5]

you have to be able to resist the mind control in her apartment

[diskoh]

this should be in the campaign/quest forum.

the title is a spoiler. the fact that you can make a choice is a cool story element that some people prefer not to know before they play.

Modifié par diskoh, 03 février 2010 - 01:45 .

[Malcroix]

SinHound wrote...

You can do it with paragon options, as well... I believe you have to resist her temptation or whatever with the Blue (or Red?) Dialogue option.

Really, though, I just don't like Morinth. Maybe if you had a reason to feel bad for her (like if she expressed any remorse, aside from being a sociopath), but as it stands there's no real compelling reason to pick Morinth for EITHER Shep.

Apart from the reason that Domination is a very cool power, that Samara is a self-centered hypocrite fanatic with no qualms about trapping and killing her own daughter, that Samara is also boring as hell and ugly to boot, that Morinth has such a cool personality, deep appreciation of the arts, and is interesting to talk to, and that Morinth is basically an asari space vampire with biotics?

Well, apart from all that you can have awesome sex with Morinth. Easily the most amazing sex-scene in any BioWare game ever.

OFC, Morinth is not for Paragons, or vanilla diet-coke pu$$y Renegades. She's a 100% evil b!tch with both homicidal and self-destructive tendencies, warped by her genetic disease into a veritable monster.  However, for those who miss the old-school "dark side" of RPGs Morinth is like a gulp of fresh air in an otherwise stagnant atmosphere of mediocre political correctness.

Too bad that mechanically her character is not very useful on higher level difficulties. If only she had at least an ammo skill (like Jack), she'd be awesome. 

Modifié par Malcroix, 03 février 2010 - 01:49 .

[SinHound]

Okay first of all, Morinth's appreciation of the arts extends to some high-schooler that thinks Metro Station is art. Second, Samara and Morinth look damn near identical. Third, YOU'RE ON A SUICIDE MISSION. Why, exactly, do you think it would be a good idea for -ANYONE- to bring a homicidal, remorseless ***** with you? What makes you think she's trustworthy at all?



I could cite reasons, but this is already spoilerific enough and I don't want to risk anyone missing out on any more.

[Dansayshi]

Morinth is alot more interesting imo, you get different dialogue and instead of being sat down in the observation deck shes sat in the chair, pretty much it. On missions shes samara, even some of the subtitles still say samra lol

[DarthCaine]

nvm

Modifié par DarthCaine, 03 février 2010 - 02:00 .

[rabidphoenix]

Malcroix wrote...
Well, apart from all that you can have awesome sex with Morinth. Easily the most amazing sex-scene in any BioWare game ever.

It's a trap.

From my experiences it seems you need about 75% Paragon or Renegade.

[Malcroix]

SinHound wrote...

Okay first of all, Morinth's appreciation of the arts extends to some high-schooler that thinks Metro Station is art..

I assume you mean Metro Station the pop group, and not the metro stations of Paris or Moscow, which are indeed art. As for the pop group (I had to google it, it's so obscure), what makes you think that's what she likes? The only reference she makes is to a fictional music artist/group, we have no idea what kind of music that is. And it's irrelevant anyway, because taste differs, but what matters is Morinth's deep appreciation of the arts per se. You can't argue with that, it's a quest point in the game for heaven's sake. And her conversation on the topic, although perhaps not to the highest intellectual standard (first, it's just a game, and second, she's only met your character) is still miles above anything we hear from the other squadmates.

If you want hard facts: she became infatuated with a young artist, Nef, who was a complete unknown at the time; Morinth's taste is proven when Nef's mother mentions she received a proposition to sell one of Nef's sculptures for "three years' pay".

Second, Samara and Morinth look damn near identical.

Purely physically, yes (and again, it's a plot point). But Morinth has different facial expressions, and her melding form is a completely new look. Personally, I prefer my asari green, and Morinth delivers 8=)

Third, YOU'RE ON A SUICIDE MISSION. Why, exactly, do you think it would be a good idea for -ANYONE- to bring a homicidal, remorseless ***** with you?

You mean Jack? Oh, wait, you're talking about Miranda? No, I guess it's Tali (she's completely xenocidal and remorseless towards the Geth). Or maybe it's Liara? (talk about homicidal and cold-hearted, the love of her life comes back from the grave and she can't take her mind away from murder). Then again, Samara's about as homicidal and remorseless as they get, what with the daughter-killing.

Morinth at least openly embraces her evil, and doesn't hide it under veneers of "justice", "revenge" or "sad childhood".

Oh, and - you're on a SUICIDE mission. Isn't the whole point of the game to bring together a team of the baddest muthaf*ckers in the galaxy? Morinth fits the bill, and if the mission ends up suicide for her, well, the galaxy's better off, right?

What makes you think she's trustworthy at all?

Player: But how can I trust you? 
Shale [sarcasm]: I don't know - how can you trust anyone without a control rod?

Morinth is not "trustworthy" in the fluffy white sense. She's probably the only team member (with the possible exception of Zaeed) who has an "evil" alignment. You can trust her to do what she wants to do; for a smart person, that's enough.

Modifié par Malcroix, 03 février 2010 - 07:37 .

[newcomplex]

You need to pass all the dialogue checks (red or blue options)

[Gumbeaux Jr]

Can you not read? No spoilers discussed in this forum!

[Malcroix]

Gumbeaux Jr wrote...

Can you not read? No spoilers discussed in this forum!

Point to the spoiler, and it shall be vanquished.

[Gumbeaux Jr]

The whole discussion is spoiler territory and it belongs in the Mass Effect 2 discussion forum.

[Northborn]

Doesn't Morinth just kill you at the end anyways?

[Malcroix]

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

I didn't even know there was an alternative to Samara.

This is definitely spoiler.

WTH, you never did Samara's loyalty quest? Because that's like the one and only choice of that quest, its raison d'etre so to speak.

[Malcroix]

Gumbeaux Jr wrote...

The whole discussion is spoiler territory and it belongs in the Mass Effect 2 discussion forum.

In that case 90% of this forum is a spoiler.

I couldn't care less, though. Anyone who's played the game knows about Morinth. The only spoiler here is what Jep13 said (thanks a lot, dude).

[Sashem]

Its a quest in the game, hence it is a spoiler... definitely

[LeingodX]

The only reason to like Morinth IMO, is her voice actress, Natalia Cigliuti. She's really cute. Maybe if Morinth shared her likeness (Like Miranda and Yvonne Strahovsky) I'd be more inclined to chose her.



Please Bioware, make a Natalia Cigliuti lookalike character for ME3! (Whishful thinking doesn't hurt)

[Taritu]

You don't need to be full renegade, but you do need one bar high enough to resist her (I had the option on my paragon femshep.). OTOH, unless you're renegade (and an evil renegade) why would you choose Morinth? She's a serial killer and she's not more powerful than Samara.