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[DivineSacrilege]

 Hello All,

I hope that this hasn't already been discussed. I tried searching the forums but for some reason (and I find this strange), it literally came up with 0 results for every search I tried. Seems like an error to me.

Anyways, I have been a 360 gamer for several years now and returned to the PC for this game (gameplay is far better on the PC for this type of game) so I have fallen behind on the technical requirements for gaming.

My PC has the following specs:
ATI Radeon 4350
8GB DDR2 RAM
Intel Core 2 Quad 2.66GHz
Vista 64bit

My issue is that to have a relatively decent framerate I have to run the game at medium texture detail, medium graphics detail, anti aliasing off, and frame rate buffer off. Even then the framerate will get jumpy, such as during cut scenes. Is this normal? It seems to me that the specs of the computer should be able to handle better settings. As far as I am aware my drivers are up to date. 

I am only about 2 hours into the game, so I don't know if I will be getting this Ostagar glitch that many people are reporting.

Any help / thoughts would be appreciated.

[Dateranoth]

I can pretty much tell you its your graphics card. That's not really a gaming graphics card at all. You'll need to upgrade it to enjoy higher framerates in this game and pretty much all others.



Quote from AnandTech:



"The Radeon HD 4350 and 4550 are slotted in between integrated graphics and the set of hardware we took a look at recently in our Radeon 4670 review. The Radeon HD 4550 will run you around $45 - $55, while the Radeon HD 4350 will be priced at $39. Generally speaking, if you're a gamer you're not spending any less than $150 for a graphics card - so these GPUs are mostly for enabling hardware Blu-ray acceleration or providing a boost in performance over games running on integrated graphics."

[Metametheus_Myrmidon]

Psh it aint your video card I running a pretty powerful machine and I have a constant problem with the Loading Screen taking "Forever" to load the next scene after about a hour or two of play.

Im Running a

NF980-G65 MSI Board with a AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0 Ghz

4.0 GB DDR3 1066 RAM Crucual Ballistix

Nvidia Geforce GTX 285 OCX 1GB

Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatality Series Sound Card

Windows XP Professional SP3



I can run most everything on high no problems, however the loading screen still bugs even when on Low Settings so Im thinking this game has a serious memory problem.

[Ajyk]

Yeah, I play for an hour or two and restart the game to keep it running smoothly.

[Yetisan]

@ metametheus i think in your case its having windows xp. you waisting your GPU with directx 10 on a OS that only have directx 9

[Asygeras]

there have been reports of a memory leak, and there is a patch (somewhere)



anyway, i would suggest putting the FPS buffer on.

i have it enabled, and even though my loading screens still take a considerable long time to actually do anything, the game runs smoothly



this on a dual core AMD with a Ge-force 9500 and 2 GB's of DDR2



and I'm running high graphics btw, anti aliasing 8



so, IMO.. anyone with a half decent computer SHOULD be able to run the game.

keeping in mind that these people will have to adjust graphics and other settings accordingly.

[Gorath Alpha]

The HD 4350 is a very low end Business Graphics card, available for pocket change.  It is no better than the latest of the onboard chips in performance, being suited for Charts, Graphs, Presentations, and Spreadsheets, but certainly not for 3D games. 

http://www.gpureview...1=321&card2=585

The current official Radeon minimums don't make any logical sense, with a turtle-slow, unusable X1550 for Vista, and a blazing fast X850 for XP.  I really think that some X800 or other is more appropriate for XP's minimum, such as the X800 GTO (above), and an X1650 XT for Vista.  Comparing your poor POS to the X800 GTO, it trails on bandwidth with only 25% of the X800 GTO's bandwidth, it gets only 37% of the X800 GTO's Pixel Fill Rate.  Only on Texture Fill Rate can it manage to keep up with a five year old X800 GTO! 

You really haven't got much of anything there for games at all! 

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 06 novembre 2009 - 04:49 .

[DivineSacrilege]

Thanks for the replies. Yeah, this is my dad's business computer so he didn't fork out the change for upgrading the graphics card. So what would you recommend that is in the affordable price range? What about a Radeon HD 4870? $165 at NCIX :

http://www.ncix.com/...manufacture=XFX



Like I said earlier, I am really not up to date on any of the technical aspects of PC gaming anymore.

[Gorath Alpha]

The HD 4870 is an excellent video card, although when you move upward beyond the mainline gaming card area, while they do perform much better, they also demand a lot more electrical current.  Going for high end cards means upgrading the power supply as well as the video card.  The HD 4670 is a good top-of-medium class card that will run happily on the stock ready made branded PC's power supply. 

It has offered the best ratio of frames per second per dollar of any card for almost a year.  It is an excellent value.

Gorath
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[darkslay6]

I am also have a very similar issue with low framerates in gameplay. The movie scenes are fine but game play is choppy. I am running the game at a medium graphics, alising, textures and such. If anyone could give me a suggestion on helping me out.



My specs are



Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz

NVIDIA GeForce 9500M (GF 9200MGS + GF 9400MG)

VRAM 256 MB

4gb of DDR 2 ram

[Gorath Alpha]

That video card is poor, but since you have a laptop, your upgrade options are minimal.  Dell and Sager will do it for their owners (as long as the existing video isn't an onboard chip), but almost no other laptop makers will do so.  It you can handle a lower screen resolution, try 1024 by 768, and if that's not enough headroom, then go down to 800 by 600. 

Gorath
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[bzombo]

darkslay6 wrote...

I am also have a very similar issue with low framerates in gameplay. The movie scenes are fine but game play is choppy. I am running the game at a medium graphics, alising, textures and such. If anyone could give me a suggestion on helping me out.

My specs are

Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 9500M (GF 9200MGS + GF 9400MG)
VRAM 256 MB
4gb of DDR 2 ram

i suggest you knock everything down to the lowest graphic setting, then start bumping settings and see what ones will hold up and stop there.

[Dateranoth]

Well, before you drop resolution I would try lowering other settings, espicall Anti Aliasing if you have it on. Because non native resolutions on a laptop ( or most LCDs ) look pretty terrible.

[Gorath Alpha]

You are correct about AA, but the fact is, with modern video cards and ordinary screen resolutions, the game's own settings just don't have anything like as much influence on overall performance as resolution! 

Gorath
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[DivineSacrilege]

Thanks for the info Gorath, it was really helpful. Unfortunately, after doing quick check on this PC's specs, I think that it only has a 300W power supply, which isn't enough for anything above a 4550... damn. 

Modifié par DivineSacrilege, 06 novembre 2009 - 08:30 .

[Dateranoth]

Very true, but still worth a shot. Unless of course he can enable NVIDIAs scaling. That usually works pretty well. I just checked and running the latest drivers from NVIDIA I have the Use NVIDIA scaling with fixed-aspect ratio. It usually looks better than native lcd scaling.

[Gorath Alpha]

DivineSacrilege wrote...

Thanks for the info Gorath, it was really helpful. Unfortunately, after doing quick check on this PC's specs, I think that it only has a 300W power supply, which isn't enough for anything above a 4550... damn. 

It depends on who made the power supply.  A good example is that Dell sets very high power supply standards, such that a PSU in a fullsize Dell tower labelled 300 watts id typically literally as good as a branded named 400 watt! 

The HD 4650 and 4670 will work quite well on high quality PSUs with 300 watt total output, as long as the 12V amperage is adequate. 

Gorath
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[DivineSacrilege]

Oh really? That's good to know. This is a dell 545MT or something like that.



Alright, I have one last question and then I'll stop bothering you haha.



Which 4670 should I be getting? There are dozens of them and I can't really tell what is different about them. Here is the page from NCIX with all the 4670's they carry. This computer is running two monitors btw. I suppose that I could also just go into the nearby NCIX store and ask.



http://www.ncix.com/...goryid=0&q=4670

[DivineSacrilege]

Ok, so I just bought this card:

http://www.ncix.com/...ture=PowerColor

Will this be sufficient? (I also bought a 450W power supply). I forgot to mention it is on a 22" 1080p display.

Modifié par DivineSacrilege, 07 novembre 2009 - 10:31 .