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[Lara Denton]

Pacifien wrote...

I'm going to be a bit cruel here and mention that he did have a vital role during the suicide mission that was switched at the last moment in favor of someone else. But I'm not going to tell you what that role was.

Oh, come on! You can't just say that(!!!) and run! 

[Pacifien]

*an explanation used to exist here*

No, I changed my mind! Bwuahahahaha!

Okay, seriously, I'm trying to see how long I can keep a promise, even if it was a not-so-serious promise. The very fact I even mentioned it shows my will is dissolving.

Modifié par Pacifien, 07 juillet 2010 - 11:09 .

[Collider]

TOO LATE PACIFIEN! HAHAHHAA!11

Modifié par Collider, 07 juillet 2010 - 11:08 .

[Pacifien]

Collider wrote...
TOO LATE PACIFIEN! HAHAHHAA!11

CURSES!

I need a pirate emoticon. This forum is racist against pirates.

[Lara Denton]

Pacifien wrote...

*an explanation used to exist here*

No, I changed my mind! Bwuahahahaha!

Okay, seriously, I'm trying to see how long I can keep a promise, even if it was a not-so-serious promise. The very fact I even mentioned it shows my will is dissolving.

So you'd rather see Thane's fans in tears? *sobbing* 

[Collider]

The revelation that I and Pacifien know would change the face of the Thane fandom forever. Perhaps mankind is not ready for such a revolution.

Modifié par Collider, 07 juillet 2010 - 11:29 .

[Lara Denton]

Collider wrote...

The revelation that I and Pacifien know would change the face of the Thane fandom forever. Perhaps mankind is not ready for such a revolution.

Is that so? Well, mankind might not be ready, but it doesn't matter, because Thane's fans are not part of that.  We are... hmm... thaneskind? 

Oh, well, I'm just being silly. 

[Pacifien]

laradenton wrote...
So you'd rather see Thane's fans in tears? *sobbing* 

Take heart in knowing that at least the developers completely had a plan for Thane in the suicide mission that was completely ruined when they realized they weren't taking something about some other squadmate into account.

[Lara Denton]

Pacifien wrote...

Take heart in knowing that at least the developers completely had a plan for Thane in the suicide mission that was completely ruined when they realized they weren't taking something about some other squadmate into account.

Thane is just awesome. 

[Fiery Phoenix]

Back. Sorry, guys. Took longer than expected. But I'm still leaving in like 30 minutes.

Pacifien wrote...

laradenton wrote...
So you'd rather see Thane's fans in tears? *sobbing* 

Take heart in knowing that at least the developers completely had a plan for Thane in the suicide mission that was completely ruined when they realized they weren't taking something about some other squadmate into account.

What would that be? Really can't think of anything.

That being said, I have a few roles which Thane could have played during the suicide mission myself. Examples: 1) Sniper Specialist (provide sniper cover fire for diversion team). 2) Assassin (sneak into some sort of control room, kill Collector guards, and manually activiate something -- like a gate -- for the rest of the team to continue the mission).

EDIT: Got your PM, Pacifien. It makes sense, but still.

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 08 juillet 2010 - 12:40 .

[JECWSU]

Pacifien wrote...

I'm going to be a bit cruel here and mention that he did have a vital role during the suicide mission that was switched at the last moment in favor of someone else. But I'm not going to tell you what that role was.

I didn't know that. What role was he suppose to have?

[Collider]

JECWSU wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
I'm going to be a bit cruel here and mention that he did have a vital role during the suicide mission that was switched at the last moment in favor of someone else. But I'm not going to tell you what that role was.

I didn't know that. What role was he suppose to have?

He did the chicken dance to distract the Collectors.
...or you can PM Pacifien.

[Pacifien]

Okay, fine, I give up. I won't delete this explanation this time. (Or maybe someone should quickly quote me this time, ensuring any temptation I have to delete the explanation is pointless.)

Your top three defenders when you leave your squad behind to hold the line are Garrus, Grunt, and Zaeed. This was originally supposed to be Thane, Grunt, and Zaeed. The developers then remembered that Garrus is your squadmate who held off three merc bands by himself: of course he's a great defender!

The remnants of their original intention can be found in the article about the suicide mission in the June 2010 issue of Game Informer. In the article, they list the order in which squadmates die when holding the line:
Mordin < Tali < Kasumi < Jack < Miranda < Jacob < Garrus < Samara/Morinth < Legion < Thane < Zaeed < Grunt

I put this to the test. Garrus will die before Thane. Garrus is still a better defender than Thane. I asked a developer about the disparity in what was happening here, and he mentioned the change. However, I mentioned the theory that the reason Garrus died earlier on the list was because, unlike Grunt and Zaeed, Garrus would be more likely to give his life in the defense of others. The developer liked this idea and said he'd co-opt this theory as the actual reason. So in support of the false pretenses, I said I would not give up the truth. Even though I knew that would be impossible given time.

So no great revelation, I suppose. Not much a reason other than silly promises on why I was reluctant to mention it earlier.

Wish they had given Thane a different role then, but like I said earlier, the decision was made late in the development. I suspect they actually had the details of the suicide mission and each squadmates role hammered out before anything else. Mordin was supposed to be a biotic you could use for the Biotic Shield portion!

[Lara Denton]

Pacifien wrote...

Okay, fine, I give up. 

Thank you for sharing it, it is appreciated by Thane's fans. 

[kglaser]

Pacifien wrote...
However, I mentioned the theory that the reason Garrus died earlier on the list was because, unlike Grunt and Zaeed, Garrus would be more likely to give his life in the defense of others. The developer liked this idea and said he'd co-opt this theory as the actual reason.

I have to say, I quite like that

Mordin was supposed to be a biotic you could use for the Biotic Shield portion!

What?!  But that would have been awesome!!

[J4N3_M3]

Pacifien wrote...

Okay, fine, I give up. I won't delete this explanation this time. (Or maybe someone should quickly quote me this time, ensuring any temptation I have to delete the explanation is pointless.)

Your top three defenders when you leave your squad behind to hold the line are Garrus, Grunt, and Zaeed. This was originally supposed to be Thane, Grunt, and Zaeed. The developers then remembered that Garrus is your squadmate who held off three merc bands by himself: of course he's a great defender!

The remnants of their original intention can be found in the article about the suicide mission in the June 2010 issue of Game Informer. In the article, they list the order in which squadmates die when holding the line:
Mordin < Tali < Kasumi < Jack < Miranda < Jacob < Garrus < Samara/Morinth < Legion < Thane < Zaeed < Grunt

I put this to the test. Garrus will die before Thane. Garrus is still a better defender than Thane. I asked a developer about the disparity in what was happening here, and he mentioned the change. However, I mentioned the theory that the reason Garrus died earlier on the list was because, unlike Grunt and Zaeed, Garrus would be more likely to give his life in the defense of others. The developer liked this idea and said he'd co-opt this theory as the actual reason. So in support of the false pretenses, I said I would not give up the truth. Even though I knew that would be impossible given time.

So no great revelation, I suppose. Not much a reason other than silly promises on why I was reluctant to mention it earlier.

Wish they had given Thane a different role then, but like I said earlier, the decision was made late in the development. I suspect they actually had the details of the suicide mission and each squadmates role hammered out before anything else. Mordin was supposed to be a biotic you could use for the Biotic Shield portion!

quoted just in case :whistle::whistle:
thanks for sharing that. It is really interesting to see.

[IccaRa]

A lot of things get switched around. Apparently not everyone was on the same page when it came to Thane being a reptile for the longest time.

[Collider]

People thought he was like a fish. So funny considering the problem Drell have on Kahja.

[IccaRa]

I wonder how that worked. They were considering something aquatic once, early in development, so maybe word just didn't get around to everyone til much later in development.



His glistening sheen in the Blurr renders is just disturbing. But my guess is they had to start those trailers early, and weren't able to fix everything due to time/budget constraints.

[Collider]

That makes sense - considering the seemingly strange skill setup that Thane has in-game.

[IccaRa]

His illness must have been drafted midway in development, at least, because his writer left some months before release, and finalizing dialog and VA is one of the earliest time crunches they have to deal with (IIRC.)



I'm not sure how much of it was thought out, as some of Thane's dialog hints that the codex was revised at some point after the VA was done.

[J4N3_M3]

good morning everyone....

spreading some Thane-love  

[hanar05]

IccaRa wrote...

His illness must have been drafted midway in development, at least, because his writer left some months before release, and finalizing dialog and VA is one of the earliest time crunches they have to deal with (IIRC.)

I'm not sure how much of it was thought out, as some of Thane's dialog hints that the codex was revised at some point after the VA was done.

Hmm yes, like the fact Thane says drell left Rakhana a century ago and the codex says 800 years...

Hooray for reaching over 100 pages!!