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[Pacifien]

I know they took Abe Sapien from the Hellboy movie as inspiration for Thane, but as they kept working on his design, I figure they just preferred the texture of a reptile versus something more aquatic. Plus, given the reaction drell have to Kahje, that aquatic element would seem rather incongruous.

Thane's story and development is really a lesson on having one cool idea and then being at a loss for what comes next. Sure, I could write the most kickass history for Thane ever, but I do have the benefit of hindsight. I just think his story and development all came after they created the Nassana Dantius cinematic.

Oh, and nice pic J4N3.

[Pacifien]

51ha wrote...
So he is very hard to kill. Almost like krogan. I wish he had his regeneration.

Luckily, he's hard to kill during the Hold the Line segment (where people have the most problem with squadmates dying). Unfortunately, there are other points during the suicide mission where he is very easy to kill, but that shouldn't be a problem for someone looking toward a good result for everyone on the mission.

I do think Thane is harder to kill in regular gameplay. I figure the combat AI really is the same across all squadmates, but just from experience, if I give Garrus and Thane a sniper rifle, Garrus will be long dead while Thane keeps going.

[Jade5233]

I'd say that Thane is my second favorite ME character.  I'm going to do a playthrough where my Shep romances him.  I think he's the character with the most heart in ME2.

I do like his costume--B.A.  and like how it opens over the chest.

I'm sure in your previous 100 pages you already found this, but I figured I'd try to contribute something since I'm new.
http://gameinformer....n-of-thane.aspx

[Fiery Phoenix]

Pacifien wrote...

51ha wrote...
So he is very hard to kill. Almost like krogan. I wish he had his regeneration.

Luckily, he's hard to kill during the Hold the Line segment (where people have the most problem with squadmates dying). Unfortunately, there are other points during the suicide mission where he is very easy to kill, but that shouldn't be a problem for someone looking toward a good result for everyone on the mission.

I do think Thane is harder to kill in regular gameplay. I figure the combat AI really is the same across all squadmates, but just from experience, if I give Garrus and Thane a sniper rifle, Garrus will be long dead while Thane keeps going.

I can confirm this from my own experience. However, Garrus actually seems to be a slightly better sniper than Thane, in the sense that he doesn't miss shots as much as Thane does.

[Pacifien]

Jade5233 wrote...
I'm sure in your previous 100 pages you already found this, but I figured I'd try to contribute something since I'm new.
http://gameinformer....n-of-thane.aspx

You know what I love about that article, other than a nice insider look into the creation of Thane? It's that the developers openly admit that designing an attractive love interest for men isn't nearly as complicated as designing one for women. More than just the appearance, but the entire personality as well.

Which makes me wonder if they knew how complicated it was to design a personality that appeals to women, who the hell dropped the ball on the relationship with Jacob?! I am dumbfounded how they could get it right with Kaidan, Garrus, and Thane and then so completely and utterly fail with Jacob.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Jade5233 wrote...

I'd say that Thane is my second favorite ME character.  I'm going to do a playthrough where my Shep romances him.  I think he's the character with the most heart in ME2.

I do like his costume--B.A.  and like how it opens over the chest.

I'm sure in your previous 100 pages you already found this, but I figured I'd try to contribute something since I'm new.
http://gameinformer....n-of-thane.aspx

Welcome to the thread, Jade! Thanks for your support.  

Thane is by far one of the most, if not THE most, interesting characters in ME. I'm sure you'll enjoy your playthrough where you intend to romance him. In my opinion, he's the best romance option for a female Shepard of ALL time, for many reasons. 

Have fun, and be sure to fire away any questions you might have. We'll be glad to help you.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Um, Mash, Thane isn't Carth. :innocent:

I mean, surely there are similarities, but they're very limited if you look at the big picture.

[Fiery Phoenix]

mashavasilec wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Um, Mash, Thane isn't Carth. :innocent:

I mean, surely there are similarities, but they're very limited if you look at the big picture.

Yeah, i just looked at a big Thane picture. No similarities. Feeling much better now

Better be true.

[Pacifien]

Hey, I liked Carth... I liked Atton Rand more. Can't resist the bad boys.

[Siansonea]

Greetings Thaneites. I'm not a poster on this thread, though I will say that I like the Thane character for the most part. I have a question for you die-hard fans, which may have been answered earlier in the thread, but I'd like your input anyway. In other threads it has been discussed that Thane should be expanded so that he is available as a love interest for male Shepards. Do you all agree that this is an acceptable expansion of the character, or would a bisexual Thane somehow ruin the character for you?

[J4N3_M3]

Siansonea II wrote...

Greetings Thaneites. I'm not a poster on this thread, though I will say that I like the Thane character for the most part. I have a question for you die-hard fans, which may have been answered earlier in the thread, but I'd like your input anyway. In other threads it has been discussed that Thane should be expanded so that he is available as a love interest for male Shepards. Do you all agree that this is an acceptable expansion of the character, or would a bisexual Thane somehow ruin the character for you?

Greetings "lurker"  

I don't know....I am usually all pro-same-sex-romances but in Thane's case I do feel different about it since he was married and has a son. I know, I know, that doesn't say anything at all about his sexual orientation, yet it would be more complicated than it already is. Don't get me wrong, it wouldn't ruin the character for me at all. When I play, I don't care if the other characters in game are possible LIs for other players. I play the game from my point of view. So even IF, let's say Thane, Joker or Jacob were possible LIs a male Shep, that wouldn't make them gay or bi for my femShep. They would still be straight in my MassEffect universe. They would be gay or bi if I played a male shep though.

and we NEED a Thane on this page....



eh, can't go wrong with a holding-hands picture :wub::wub:

[Pacifien]

Siansonea II wrote...
Do you all agree that this is an acceptable expansion of the character, or would a bisexual Thane somehow ruin the character for you?

I'd pretty much accept any LI being bisexual. We know so little about them, how can someone get some vibe that a character must be heterosexual from what details we are given?

I know some of the Jack fans are fairly adamant she's heterosexual because she hints at the bisexual experience in the past and yet does not pursue even the "just sex" renegade option with a female Shepard. But I just figured that was developers teasing and flinching first.

Now, because the developers have already started various romances in ME1 and ME2 without providing the option for a Shepard of a different sex to pursue the relationship, I can see people saying that it would be fan service and retcon to suddenly allow for a bisexual relationship of an established character. Basically, if Thane were truly bisexual, then why couldn't he have a romance with a male Shepard in ME2 and why does he suddenly switch gears in ME3 if they did allow it? I might agree that the opportunity has passed to develop an existing love interest into a bisexual option in ME3 without setting off outrage among part of the fanbase.

I wouldn't mind a bisexual option of a new love interest in ME3. I know people don't like the idea of adding even more characters into the mix for ME3, but I'd actually like it if the developers did because new characters brings new perspectives and different stories. Ah well, that's a completely different topic.

[Pacifien]

For those of you who like your fanfic, I'll give my props to sinvraal and... well, all her fics. But she's specifically writing her version of Mass Effect 2, covering multiple points of view. She has a good sense of maintaining a character's voice and I like how she expands all the details seen in the game.

Anyway, her latest chapter is done from the viewpoint of Thane during Samara's loyalty mission. *Clicky*

[Fiery Phoenix]

Cool! I'll check out that chapter. Thanks for posting it, Pacifien.

[kaimanaMM]

As an expansion of Thane's character?  No.

I'm not against homosexual / bisexual individuals / characters.

Thane has been established as being heterosexual.  If BW decides to up and change his orientation, that would be pretty jarring.  We had this discussion a while back (months) in Neck Snap.  Would it ruin the character for me?  Not if he had been introduced that way, no.  Would I love him as much as I do now?  Of course.  But I can't say I'd be in favor of changing his sexual preferences as we come down the last half mile, so to speak.  

[J4N3_M3]

Pacifien wrote...

For those of you who like your fanfic, I'll give my props to sinvraal and... well, all her fics. But she's specifically writing her version of Mass Effect 2, covering multiple points of view. She has a good sense of maintaining a character's voice and I like how she expands all the details seen in the game.
Anyway, her latest chapter is done from the viewpoint of Thane during Samara's loyalty mission. *Clicky*

I am already following her story. She's really great.

As for the gay/bi LIs. I agree that the devs have missed out on the possibility of creating that. On the other hand, I do understand, why they didn't. Homophobia is still a big issue nowadays - which is sad - and just when you look at the various character support threads, take Kaidan's for example, most guys posting there actually feel the NEED to point out that they support Kaidan as a friend but that they are not gay. Hell, why do people have to be worried about that? It is sad. If I want my FemShep to pursue a relationship with Liara, that doesn't make me lesbian. Yet, everyone seems to be worried to come across as homosexual. This fear is sad! It shows how LITTLE acceptance same-sex relationships still have in our society. And seeing that, I can understand why the devs didn't create the possibility in game. I mean, just imagine that.....guy buys a game where the male main character CAN pursue a gay relationship. Regardless of the player's decisions in the game, there will always be idiots around that will keep mocking the player about this little fact. So people would be afraid to either admit that they play this game, or they just won't buy it at all out of fear that their friends or families would think that they are homosexual. Sad, isn't it?

[Pacifien]

Of course, the stereotype that guys will be creeped about by a homosexual relationship only applies to male homosexual relationships. And the fear that they could accidentally fall into the relationship trap simply be being nice and not yelling from the get-go "I'm not interested! Leave me alone!" This creep factor and fear does not extend to the female homosexual relationships.

I suppose because a lot of guys will also play a female Shepard, so they like the option of the sex without the gay. Nevermind the girls playing a male Shepard don't get that option.

I've also seen guys act completely dumbfounded by girls being keen on yaoi without realizing it's not much different.

[J4N3_M3]

Pacifien wrote...

Of course, the stereotype that guys will be creeped about by a homosexual relationship only applies to male homosexual relationships. And the fear that they could accidentally fall into the relationship trap simply be being nice and not yelling from the get-go "I'm not interested! Leave me alone!" This creep factor and fear does not extend to the female homosexual relationships.

I guess, there's as many girls creeped out by homosexual relationships as guys. In the forums I came across guys so far, though that kept pointing it out. I actually was just trying to give an example and I was a bit lazy to write girl/guy, he/she and so on. Sorry, if that came across the wrong way. And sorry if I don't get if you are actually agreeing with me or being sarcastic. 12 hours of work and the fact that English is not my first language actually don't really help me in the forums today....*hides*

[Pacifien]

I wasn't actually trying to point out something directly to you as I was thinking out loud to myself.

[Epantiras]

Pacifien wrote...
Now, because the developers have already started various romances in ME1 and ME2 without providing the option for a Shepard of a different sex to pursue the relationship, I can see people saying that it would be fan service and retcon to suddenly allow for a bisexual relationship of an established character. Basically, if Thane were truly bisexual, then why couldn't he have a romance with a male Shepard in ME2 and why does he suddenly switch gears in ME3 if they did allow it? I might agree that the opportunity has passed to develop an existing love interest into a bisexual option in ME3 without setting off outrage among part of the fanbase

That's exactly what I think. It would be lame if Shepard could not have a same sex relationship with a character and BOOM! In ME3 that character changes his/her mind and becomes bisex. It would be like a non-romanceable ME1 character like Tali or Garrus suddenly becoming a love interest in ME2! Nothing more than fanservice.

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Oh wait, the actually did that!
Now Tali and Garrus fans will hate me ;-)

EDIT: typo

Modifié par Epantiras, 08 juillet 2010 - 07:42 .