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[Fiery Phoenix]

"That may go down in history as the shortest interrogation ever."

[Pacifien]

mashavasilec wrote...

 

Yeah, it was because IccaRa posted a gif of a sloth.

[IndigoWolfe]

While, in my opinion, there's nothing wrong with Thane being in Mass Effect 3 per se. But I don't see how they could cure him or something without it ringing as a huge "actually not", which --for me-- would be a massive facepalm moment. It would feel like nothing but fanservice (and since I'm speaking to the fans, I know this is a risky statement).

As far as I could tell from Thane's character --please note that I haven't done his romance myself-- his impending death seemed to be an important, if not crucial, point to his character. His story is one of a man preparing for the inevitable. And so he is trying to do something good, to be a better person that he was. I enjoyed this.

And the romance --again, haven't done it myself-- seems to be about Thane not just doing good deeds during his final days, but truly living them for himself and another. I don't know for sure, but Female Shepard understands the reality of Thane's dwindling time, correct? If so, then in that case then the overall message of the romance seems to be one of "it doesn't matter how much time one has, but how they spend it".

Or is it that the romance is about giving Thane a reason to live? Hmm.

But if the former is the more accurate portrayal, then to me, having Thane being miraculously cured in ME3 would pretty much destroy the base of the romance, in my mind.

I'm not ruling out my possible acceptance of a reason for Thane being alive in Mass Effect 3. I'm just saying that without some really good storytelling, I'll be pretty darn disappointed.

I suppose the bare minimum where I could tolerate the "oh, Thane was just cured after ME2" is if he's still in treatment during Mass Effect 3 --depending, of course, on how long the period between games is. Something like the hanar did manage to create a cure, but treating a case as far along as Thane is a long and hard process. Therefor, he is in no condition to accompany Shepard. This I could buy, with reservations nonetheless, but I could accept it.

In my opinion, having Thane just *boom* be cured and ready to go would be possibly the worst direction for his character to go at this point.


I just thought I'd drop in and offer my thoughts. I feel compelled to assure you that the previous statement was made with no malevolent intent. And that it was made with the best interests of his character's integrity at heart.


P.S Does anyone here facepalm at the "Be alive with me tonight" line? Most likely not, but I'd thought I'd ask just the same.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I actually liked how Jane said "Thane, be alive with me tonight...". Call me an idiot.

[ciaweth]

I want Thane to live too--he could use a nice surprise in his life. But I agree with IndigoWolfe, it'll need some dang good storytelling to justify it. Still, depending on when ME3 starts, I can see him still being in it even if he's badly deteriorated. Calling in favors and contacts from his long career to help Shepard, for example.

[IndigoWolfe]

mashavasilec wrote...

Yes, i facepalmed at "Be alive with me tonight". I usually turn my sound off at this moment.

I suppose it would be quite so bad if it were just "Be alive with me". But still, really? For me, it took the emotion of that scene and flushed it.

[IndigoWolfe]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I actually liked how Jane said "Thane, be alive with me tonight...". Call me an idiot.

Idiot.

[Fiery Phoenix]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I actually liked how Jane said "Thane, be alive with me tonight...". Call me an idiot.

Idiot.

LOL! I just thought it was spot-on. I don't know how to explain it, but it seemed to fit with the situation perfectly well for me.

[Pacifien]

I just love it when Shepard says she's not sure if they could call it love yet once the relationship is in full swing. 'Cause that's what I say when I start new relationships. "It's not love yet, but let's get this party started, fella."

This post probably contains sarcasm.

Anyway, I've always advocated not having a cure because that then makes the idea of the illness pointless in the first place. It's simply the catalyst for Thane's soul-searching. But he already had a catalyst for soul-searching when he says his soul purposely made Irikah's killers suffer when he had always separated body and mind before. Kind of like a "Gods, what have I become" moment.

But I do advocate prolonging Thane's life because he has every reason to live now, for his son, for the mission, for Shepard (especially if you romance him). And people do defy the odds when an illness puts an expiration date on their life, but they keep going past it.

Modifié par Pacifien, 10 juillet 2010 - 07:02 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

mashavasilec wrote...

 Oh, lets start a flame war! 

We're just voicing opinions, Mash.

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 10 juillet 2010 - 07:04 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

mashavasilec wrote...

 Prolonging his life and finding a cure might just be the same thing. Say, let's prolong his life to 80 years. Everyone's happy, 'cause technically it's not a cure

Truth.

[J4N3_M3]

i liked it too *hides*

as for the curing...personally I do see Thane getting treatment that maybe betters his situation but doesn't necessarily cure him. And for me it would be perfectly fine if they had some sort of open end for this. I mean, that would leave room for more fan art on the one hand and not ruin the story in any way. Because, neither do I want to see Thane getting cured nor do I want to see him die.

For my Shep, the base of the entire romance thing wasn't Thane dying actually. Thane isn't interesting to me because he is dying. He is interesting to me because of the whole way his character is written, which of course is just a result of the fact that he is dying, but still.....

hard to explain.....

[J4N3_M3]

double post so here have a Thane

[Fiery Phoenix]

I think how that's hard to explain is the very reason he is a fascinating character, Jane. It's not until you actually "understand" Thane that you start liking and even loving him, which apparently a lot of players don't, but are rather completely turned off by the fact that he's facing an impending death.

[Jade5233]

I've been reading a little Kaidan fanfic, but I was wondering if there was some good Thane FF (there's gotta be). I'd like to be a little more well rounded.

[J4N3_M3]

Jade5233 wrote...

I've been reading a little Kaidan fanfic, but I was wondering if there was some good Thane FF (there's gotta be). I'd like to be a little more well rounded.

you should join the neck snap appreciation society they have a discussion thread with a LONG list about FanFics....

[Pacifien]

mashavasilec wrote...
 Prolonging his life and finding a cure might just be the same thing. Say, let's prolong his life to 80 years. Everyone's happy, 'cause technically it's not a cure

I'd just as soon leave it open-ended. Mention at least that he's getting treatment that is helping him live past his 8-12 month estimate from ME2.

But I've seen people told they'll be dead in two weeks who then lasted several months more. Some people lasting in several years more. Not necessarily forty years, though.