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[Pacifien]

mashavasilec wrote...
Gloomy. I like it

It's also nice to find other's interpretations which are different from your own. Gives characters a lot more dimensions

I don't think I've ever done anything other than gloomy when it comes to interpreting the lives of the squadmates.

Well, other than the quickfic I wrote of Shepard taking the crew on a paintball excursion, but that definitely did not end in his favor.

For the lighter interpretations of Thane's life, I bet Kolyat's birth was both the happiest day of his life followed by the most scared he's ever been. If he couldn't figure out how to use his skills to find work in anything other than being an assassin, I can't imagine what he thought of his ability to raise a child. Wait, that interpretation didn't come out as light as I wanted...

[Fiery Phoenix]

51ha wrote...

It's in his recritment mission. Sometime before you go across the bridge. You shouldn't run through the rooms too fast as you will miss this event. You can hear the guards talking through the vent (it's funny)and after that it happens.

I MUST see this!

[J4N3_M3]

I didn't get to that mission yesterday, promise I'll recruit Thane tonight though and try to catch it for video capture Finally got all Garrus lines from Jacob, which was actually why I started video capturing during the game lol but eventually ended up doing way more. my channel if you want to check out the videos I have so far

And tonight, so in about 9 or 10 hours I'll go and recruit Thane and then I'll look out for that scene *rofl* I can't believe I have missed it

[Fiery Phoenix]

mashavasilec wrote...

The merc which falls from the vents (how the hell did he get through fan blades?) is voiced by Mark Meer, btw. Must be pretty uncomfortable watching this scene with MaleShep

It's still cool.

[Valentyna]

Just wanted to pop in and say I love Thane to death (no pun intended). It feels like curing his condition would somehow cheapen his cahracter, though, at least to me. I think it would actually be /most/ emotionally powerful if he were still in ME3 long enough to die _on camera_, either of his condition, or by performing some heroic sacrifice in light of the fact that he has only weeks to live anyway. If ti were done right it could be one of the best scenes in any RPG made.

[Pacifien]

I like your style Valentyna. Tragic stories for the win.

[lazuli]

Valentyna wrote...

Just wanted to pop in and say I love Thane to death (no pun intended). It feels like curing his condition would somehow cheapen his cahracter, though, at least to me. I think it would actually be /most/ emotionally powerful if he were still in ME3 long enough to die _on camera_, either of his condition, or by performing some heroic sacrifice in light of the fact that he has only weeks to live anyway. If ti were done right it could be one of the best scenes in any RPG made.

This is exactly how I feel about Thane.  He's an awesome addition to the squad, but a miraculous cure would cheapen the delicious tragedy of his character.

[Valentyna]

Mmm, I'm a sucker for tragic love - or even just tragic heroes (since Ill be staying loyal to Lliara with my 'cannon' Shepard).

[J4N3_M3]

HA! I caught that scene on video! will upload it as soon as my boyfriend takes a break from gaming and won't complain about my upload slowing down our internet connection. damn those multiplayers *giggles* actually even caught the merc falling infront of my Shep's feet *rofls*

[J4N3_M3]

sorry for the double post but I just got to upload this scene *rofls*

Thane & the dead Merc

[kaimanaMM]

lazuli wrote...

Valentyna wrote...

Just wanted to pop in and say I love Thane to death (no pun intended). It feels like curing his condition would somehow cheapen his cahracter, though, at least to me. I think it would actually be /most/ emotionally powerful if he were still in ME3 long enough to die _on camera_, either of his condition, or by performing some heroic sacrifice in light of the fact that he has only weeks to live anyway. If ti were done right it could be one of the best scenes in any RPG made.

This is exactly how I feel about Thane.  He's an awesome addition to the squad, but a miraculous cure would cheapen the delicious tragedy of his character.

Most of us don't want a magic cure and plenty of people have spoken up in this thread saying as much.  Perhaps the title of the thread is misleading, it was made a while ago.

To each their own, I suppose.  I personally feel that Thane should live through ME3 with possible treatment or even without and leave the end purposefully ambiguous and let us fill in the blanks with our imagination.

See BW, this is the problem.  You created Thane and all most people choose to see is his illness and that is how they define him, that is what they label him with and because of that, they don't see beyond to the wonderful character he is.  It's easier to harp on Jacob, it's happier to headbump Garrus but Thane might as well have an expiration date tattooed on his forehead because that is all most everyone ever says about him.

Let's overlook his history as an assassin working for the Hanar.

Let's not see the man who took brutal revenge on those who killed his wife.

Let's ignore the father who tried and failed to be what his son needed.

Let's look past this person who was only going through the motions for the last ten years, no friends, no family, waiting for his body to die as he tried to atone for the one wrong he could never forgive himself for and make right.

And make sure we don't pay any attention to the man who by the end of the game is afraid of dying and losing everything he has miraculously found - the will to fight, to live, to be part of something bigger than himself.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Valentyna wrote...

Mmm, I'm a sucker for tragic love - or even just tragic heroes (since Ill be staying loyal to Lliara with my 'cannon' Shepard).

I'm reminded of this Korean TV show I used to watch, which had an amazingly sad ending.

I don't know what to say, though. I've actually thought about this; the fact that he's facing an impending death is slowly becoming iconic to his character -- as much as I hate to say so.

[Lara Denton]

Oh, come on, guys! I can't believe that you don't see Thane beyond his illness! He joins Shepard because he believes he has nothing else to lose, and he is proven wrong, and you know it, but everything he is, what he's done, has nothing to do with that! 
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Or maybe I should not bother? 

[J4N3_M3]

I've said it before and I'll say it again...Thane is not interesting to me because he is dying. It's his entire story and the way his character is written. I like his spirituality and his profession...how both of them go together. I love his history and the fact, that he has been too busy revenging his wife than actually take the time to live his own life and enjoy what there is. And I like the fact that Shep got him out of that state. I'm sure, even if he wasn't dying, he would go on like this if he hadn't met Shepard. So cure or not, it won't change the character for me. A cure won't cheapen him for me. He is more than his illness.

Have none of you ever loved someone so much and lost them and it took you ages to get over it? To actually move on with your own life? 

Modifié par J4N3_M3, 20 juillet 2010 - 09:04 .

[Pacifien]

laradenton wrote...
Oh, come on, guys! I can't believe that you don't see Thane beyond his illness! He joins Shepard because he believes he has nothing else to lose, and he is proven wrong, and you know it, but everything he is, what he's done, has nothing to do with that! 
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Or maybe I should not bother? 

Just enjoy the fact that people can have different opinions about the character and still like him. Everyone thinking the same thing gets boring.

I see Thane beyond his illness, but you can't ignore the fact that it's there either. Either he's cured, gets treatment that prolongs his life, or it all plays out like he said it would. We don't know what's going to happen, but people have their preferences.

[kaimanaMM]

Cure / treatment, yes.

Magic, voodoo, hocus pokus, voila tube of cure, no.  

Make it realistic within the setting, give it meaning.  Yes, it's sci-fi, but it should remain in the realm of being believable.  Mordin's a genius, but it would be a difficult sell for me if he just showed up after lunch one day saying he cured Kepral's Syndrome.  

I'm at peace with Thane's death.  What I don't accept is that choice being taken out of the player's hands (i.e. his death before ME3 or during ME3 with no control on the outcome from me).  Yes, the choice to help him or not should be emotional, it should tug on my heartstrings and make me cry like a baby whether he lives or dies, the impact should be the same either way.  

I wonder how vocal the Tali-romancers would be if we found out Tali had a terminal disease, or Garrus caught the fatal Turian Flu or Kaidan's migraines precluded discovering brain tumors.  How many people would write off those characters because they suddenly were labeled with an expiration date.  Or is Thane just easier to write off because his 'time expired' date was stamped on him before the game even came out.  

I think it's interesting how popular Thane is outside the BW forums, not just in groups but other communities as well and how here, he is overlooked and constantly tossed aside as not even making it into ME3.

Modifié par kaimanaMM, 20 juillet 2010 - 09:45 .